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Kid's Corporal Punishment - a Risk to Mental Health
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<blockquote data-quote="Paidiske" data-source="post: 77663221" data-attributes="member: 386627"><p>But that's the problem. We have social norms which justify hierarchy, control, abuse, violence, and so on. And then people feel justified when they respond with violence to those norms being challenged. </p><p></p><p>Seeing a family as a hierarchy of control, rather than as (for example) a network of shared care and nurture, might be more the issue. Nobody is saying we want children for tyrants; but we're saying seeing a family as inherently a structure of control is where the issue lies. </p><p></p><p>Unless voluntarily entered into, yes. </p><p></p><p>Unless it's only to a very limited degree and for particular agreed and necessary ends, yes of course. </p><p></p><p>Of course. The hint is in the word "force."</p><p></p><p>But we see very specific patterns of violence in our society, which result from particular patterns of thinking. </p><p></p><p>By limiting the degree to which they can be used to control people. </p><p></p><p>Trad marriage, voluntarily entered into, is not controlling, not a form of abuse and is really off topic to this thread. </p><p></p><p>Which is, ironically, exactly how we've identified the beliefs and attitudes which underpin abuse.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Paidiske, post: 77663221, member: 386627"] But that's the problem. We have social norms which justify hierarchy, control, abuse, violence, and so on. And then people feel justified when they respond with violence to those norms being challenged. Seeing a family as a hierarchy of control, rather than as (for example) a network of shared care and nurture, might be more the issue. Nobody is saying we want children for tyrants; but we're saying seeing a family as inherently a structure of control is where the issue lies. Unless voluntarily entered into, yes. Unless it's only to a very limited degree and for particular agreed and necessary ends, yes of course. Of course. The hint is in the word "force." But we see very specific patterns of violence in our society, which result from particular patterns of thinking. By limiting the degree to which they can be used to control people. Trad marriage, voluntarily entered into, is not controlling, not a form of abuse and is really off topic to this thread. Which is, ironically, exactly how we've identified the beliefs and attitudes which underpin abuse. [/QUOTE]
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