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<blockquote data-quote="Gene2memE" data-source="post: 77657743" data-attributes="member: 341130"><p>There were documented incidents of Russian reservists fighting with shovels during battles in trenches and fortified position in late 2022 and again in early 2023. This was totally unsurprising to anyone familiar with Russian CQB and hand-to-hand doctrine, or the state of Russian logistics at the time. The edged entrenching spade, in various guises, has been a staple of the Russian infantryman since the <strong>1860s</strong>. </p><p></p><p>When it came to ammunition, Russian reservists were getting the short end of the stick when it came to supply. This was particularly true when it came to tube artillery ammunition (122mm, 152mm and various mortar calibers) and armour support. Some units were supplementing artillery support with indirect fires from a combo of HMGs, RPGs and 30mm AGLs.</p><p></p><p>The story that "The Russians are out of ammo and are fighting with shovels they were fighting with shovels" is a mis-representation of what was reported. I suspect a deliberate one, probably to invert what were legitimate criticism from Russian reservists on social media (Telegram, Signal etc etc) that they were being ordered to take Ukrainian positions with small arms and hand weapons alone, and without any other support.</p><p></p><p>Again, totally unsurprising to anyone that was familiar with the small unit tactics that Russian forces were relying on to sustain advances in late 2022/early 2023.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gene2memE, post: 77657743, member: 341130"] There were documented incidents of Russian reservists fighting with shovels during battles in trenches and fortified position in late 2022 and again in early 2023. This was totally unsurprising to anyone familiar with Russian CQB and hand-to-hand doctrine, or the state of Russian logistics at the time. The edged entrenching spade, in various guises, has been a staple of the Russian infantryman since the [B]1860s[/B]. When it came to ammunition, Russian reservists were getting the short end of the stick when it came to supply. This was particularly true when it came to tube artillery ammunition (122mm, 152mm and various mortar calibers) and armour support. Some units were supplementing artillery support with indirect fires from a combo of HMGs, RPGs and 30mm AGLs. The story that "The Russians are out of ammo and are fighting with shovels they were fighting with shovels" is a mis-representation of what was reported. I suspect a deliberate one, probably to invert what were legitimate criticism from Russian reservists on social media (Telegram, Signal etc etc) that they were being ordered to take Ukrainian positions with small arms and hand weapons alone, and without any other support. Again, totally unsurprising to anyone that was familiar with the small unit tactics that Russian forces were relying on to sustain advances in late 2022/early 2023. [/QUOTE]
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