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Ukraine Might Still Loose the War
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<blockquote data-quote="Gene2memE" data-source="post: 77154099" data-attributes="member: 341130"><p>Blaming everything on massive, nebulous conspiracies is an easy ticket to get anything you say ignored. Quoting Russian state-owned media mouthpieces about the Russian invasion of Ukraine is another. Quoting Col. Douglas Macgregor is an even faster way to show you're not serious about an honest discussion on this war. </p><p></p><p>For those who aren't familiar with Col. Macgregor, he's basically a Russia & Putin regime apologist who's been paid for the last decade to propagate Russian talking points in the west. Top hits from the last 12 months: Russia is concerned about "NATO troops" or "NATO missiles" in Ukraine and Putin is "not the aggressor"; Zelensky is a "puppet" who needs to "neutralize Ukraine" and surrender to Russia; Ukraine's population is "basically indistinguishable" from Russia's; Russia had been "too gentle" with Ukraine in the first two weeks of the war and tried to keep Ukraine "intact" and "minimise" civilian causalities.</p><p></p><p>He's been HILARIOUSLY wrong about the course of the Russia-Ukraine war. He predicted in late <strong>February 2022</strong> that the war would be over in <strong>10 days</strong>, and that Russia would "inevitably annihilate" Ukraine. </p><p></p><p>By March 2022, he said that a ceasefire agreement was "close" and "inevitable" with the next few days. He was arguing that the war was "really almost over" and that "all of the Ukrainian troops there have been largely surrounded and cut off" and the best they could do was an "occasional pinprick attack". </p><p></p><p>By July, he was still arguing the war was "largely over" and Russia would take Odessa and Kharkiv. </p><p></p><p>By September, just days before Ukraine launched the Kharkiv and Kherson counter-offensives, he reported Ukraine had been bled white and that there was no chance for any attack to succeed. </p><p></p><p>Basically, if he said that the sky was blue in Ukraine, I'd want multiple other sources confirming it before I'd trust anything he said. </p><p></p><p></p><p>By the way, I don't watch 'Western media' - I follow the war through a combination of social media accounts (usually analysis by former military intelligence officials), traditional print trade-style military journals and OPSINT data that I am lucky enough to be privy to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gene2memE, post: 77154099, member: 341130"] Blaming everything on massive, nebulous conspiracies is an easy ticket to get anything you say ignored. Quoting Russian state-owned media mouthpieces about the Russian invasion of Ukraine is another. Quoting Col. Douglas Macgregor is an even faster way to show you're not serious about an honest discussion on this war. For those who aren't familiar with Col. Macgregor, he's basically a Russia & Putin regime apologist who's been paid for the last decade to propagate Russian talking points in the west. Top hits from the last 12 months: Russia is concerned about "NATO troops" or "NATO missiles" in Ukraine and Putin is "not the aggressor"; Zelensky is a "puppet" who needs to "neutralize Ukraine" and surrender to Russia; Ukraine's population is "basically indistinguishable" from Russia's; Russia had been "too gentle" with Ukraine in the first two weeks of the war and tried to keep Ukraine "intact" and "minimise" civilian causalities. He's been HILARIOUSLY wrong about the course of the Russia-Ukraine war. He predicted in late [B]February 2022[/B] that the war would be over in [B]10 days[/B], and that Russia would "inevitably annihilate" Ukraine. By March 2022, he said that a ceasefire agreement was "close" and "inevitable" with the next few days. He was arguing that the war was "really almost over" and that "all of the Ukrainian troops there have been largely surrounded and cut off" and the best they could do was an "occasional pinprick attack". By July, he was still arguing the war was "largely over" and Russia would take Odessa and Kharkiv. By September, just days before Ukraine launched the Kharkiv and Kherson counter-offensives, he reported Ukraine had been bled white and that there was no chance for any attack to succeed. Basically, if he said that the sky was blue in Ukraine, I'd want multiple other sources confirming it before I'd trust anything he said. By the way, I don't watch 'Western media' - I follow the war through a combination of social media accounts (usually analysis by former military intelligence officials), traditional print trade-style military journals and OPSINT data that I am lucky enough to be privy to. [/QUOTE]
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