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<blockquote data-quote="Kokavkrystallos" data-source="post: 77593043" data-attributes="member: 453600"><p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 18px">I'd still say there are many excuses to deny God. Much of it is rationalization. Someone may not think they're doing it intentionally, or deliberately to mock God, as they don't believe in His existence as Tinker Grey stated.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 18px">Still to look at the creation: the stars, the planets, the courses of the waters, the intricacies of our biology, life itself. The tremendous odds <em><strong>AGAINST</strong></em> everything happening by chance or natural selection, which would tend more toward chaos than order: these are evidences of Gods existence.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 18px">"Did you know there's an actual probability of your existence? It's infinitesimally small: about 1 in 400 trillion, apparently..</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'">What is the chance that we exist?</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><strong>1 in 10^2,685,000</strong>.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'">the odds are <em>at least 36,000 to one against</em> any random assemblage of ten components into a meaningful system...</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'">The chance of the “simplest” cell forming randomly has been <em>estimated to have no chance of ever occurring even in hundreds</em> of billions of years..."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'">and so on.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 18px">Even Darwin had at least a vague belief in a Creator, though probably from a Deists point of view.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 18px">Ultimately, even if one were to accept all this, the reason must be in the heart as well: That is where faith and knowledge comes in. You must believe. People should believe because the Word say's to, but this is where I've said people find excuses not to believe, and consider the Bible just another book, which it is not. It is the written Word of God, and there is stuff woven into it under the surface, especially in the Hebrew that show it to be true, as well as numerous fulfilled prophecies exactly as they were written hundreds even thousands of years before hand.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 18px">Hebrews 11:1-6</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 18px">"</span></span>Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, <strong><em>the evidence of things not seen</em></strong>.</p><p>For by it the elders obtained a good report.</p><p>Through faith <strong><em>we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God</em></strong>, so <em><strong>that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.</strong></em></p><p> By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.</p><p> By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.</p><p>But without faith it is impossible to please him: for <strong><em>he that cometh to God must believe that he is,</em></strong> and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kokavkrystallos, post: 77593043, member: 453600"] [FONT=times new roman][SIZE=5]I'd still say there are many excuses to deny God. Much of it is rationalization. Someone may not think they're doing it intentionally, or deliberately to mock God, as they don't believe in His existence as Tinker Grey stated. Still to look at the creation: the stars, the planets, the courses of the waters, the intricacies of our biology, life itself. The tremendous odds [I][B]AGAINST[/B][/I] everything happening by chance or natural selection, which would tend more toward chaos than order: these are evidences of Gods existence. "Did you know there's an actual probability of your existence? It's infinitesimally small: about 1 in 400 trillion, apparently..[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=5][FONT=times new roman]What is the chance that we exist? [B]1 in 10^2,685,000[/B]. the odds are [I]at least 36,000 to one against[/I] any random assemblage of ten components into a meaningful system... The chance of the “simplest” cell forming randomly has been [I]estimated to have no chance of ever occurring even in hundreds[/I] of billions of years..." and so on.[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=times new roman][SIZE=5]Even Darwin had at least a vague belief in a Creator, though probably from a Deists point of view. Ultimately, even if one were to accept all this, the reason must be in the heart as well: That is where faith and knowledge comes in. You must believe. People should believe because the Word say's to, but this is where I've said people find excuses not to believe, and consider the Bible just another book, which it is not. It is the written Word of God, and there is stuff woven into it under the surface, especially in the Hebrew that show it to be true, as well as numerous fulfilled prophecies exactly as they were written hundreds even thousands of years before hand. Hebrews 11:1-6 "[/SIZE][/FONT]Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, [B][I]the evidence of things not seen[/I][/B]. For by it the elders obtained a good report. Through faith [B][I]we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God[/I][/B], so [I][B]that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.[/B][/I] By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. But without faith it is impossible to please him: for [B][I]he that cometh to God must believe that he is,[/I][/B] and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." [/QUOTE]
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