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Kid's Corporal Punishment - a Risk to Mental Health
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<blockquote data-quote="stevevw" data-source="post: 77648827" data-attributes="member: 342064"><p>Yes it is and thats what the evidence shows. Do you want me to show the evdience again. </p><p></p><p>But the social norms themselves are not necessarily abusive. </p><p></p><p>I think you will find that when we look at the detail of prevention programs we see that its about restructuring the conditions of society to make people more equal. As your own link said on prevention that people need to be empowered who are disadvantaged which includes helping the disadvantaged in which ever way needed to strengthen their situation.</p><p></p><p>Ah, no I am simply copying and pasting the evidence and just repeating what they are saying. Its pretty straight forward and clear. When they say distress is linked with unreal beliefs and abuse that is exactly what they mean. </p><p></p><p>Wait a minute your the one who cited the PRIBS as the go to measure for parental beliefs about abuse. </p><p></p><p>The PRIBS is a comprehensive measure of all parental beliefs including those relating to their children and dicipline. Do you honestly think the scale would neglect the most important beliefs regarding parenting that involve abuse considering the scale is about parenting, appropriate and inappropriate parenting and child developement. </p><p></p><p>We did not go through the PRIBS point by point. I pointed out the core beliefs used in the scale especially Demandingness which is directly linked to parenting beliefs about inappropriate parenting including abusive controlling parenting ie Demandingness is about rigid and controlling thinking and parenting and linked to abusive discipline. </p><p></p><p>Yes they do. The 4 basic beliefs Demandingness, Catastrophizing, Frustration Intolerance and Self-Downing cover all parental beliefs regarding how they interact with their child. </p><p></p><p>Demandingness: This category of irrational beliefs contains absolutist, rigid beliefs which include should, ought, have to statements associated with harsh and abusive CP. </p><p> </p><p><strong><em><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)">Demandingness</span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">:</span></em></strong><em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"> This category of irrational beliefs contains </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>absolutist, rigid beliefs which include should, ought, have to statements.</strong></span> </em></p><p><em><a href="https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ936304.pdf" target="_blank">https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ936304.pdf</a> </em></p><p><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"> </span></p><p><em><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>Clinical Implications.</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"> The aim of the P-RIBS is to contribute to </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>identifying cognitive mechanisms </strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">that are responsible for parental</span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong> dysregulated affect and behaviour.</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"> The validation of the P-RIBS has a number of implications to the field of parenting research and interventions. Specifically, the P-RIBS could lead to further understanding of</span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong> <em>parents’ thinking in selecting different discipline strategies</em>, such as adaptive or maladaptive responses. </strong></span></em></p><p><em><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877042811022749" target="_blank">https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877042811022749</a> </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">Parental beliefs are also called in different ways; such as child rearing beliefs, parenting cognitions, parenting schemas. In a broad definition, however,</span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong> <em><em>parental belief</em></em></strong><em><strong>s consist of </strong></em></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">parents’ beliefs about</span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong> child rearing, parental expectation </strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">of their children’s performing certain behavioral patterns, </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>parental perceptions</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"> of children behavior and parental roles as childcares,</span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong> parental attribution </strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">of their children’s behavior, and </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>parental self-efficacy</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">. </span></em></p><p><em><a href="https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ936304.pdf" target="_blank">https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ936304.pdf</a> </em></p><p></p><p>This article is about Rational emotive behavior therapy REBT which is based on the PRIBS and refers to the core belief 'Demandingness' which underpins the rigid and controlling Mindset and beliefs about the world. </p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>Parents' appraisals </strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">of their child's misbehavior</span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong> influence their discipline strategy</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">, </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>often resulting in harsh or poor discipline style. </strong></span></em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"><em>Mothers who perceive their children's misbehavior as intentional are almost </em></span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><em><strong>three times more likely to engage in physical punishment</strong></em></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"><em> than mothers who view their children's misbehavior as unintentional (Ateah & Durrant, 2005). Additionally, a mother’s </em></span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><em><strong>negative appraisal of her child's behavior is positively related to engaging in an overreactive discipline style.</strong></em></span></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">REBT has a long history of focusing on </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>thoughts, beliefs, and attitudes that affect parenting. </strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">This</span> </em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"><em>identifies five types of </em></span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><em><strong>irrational beliefs (IBs):</strong></em></span> <span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><em><strong>demandingness, awfulizing, frustration intolerance, self-condemnation, and other condemnation</strong></em></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"><em>. The theory suggests that demandingness, </em></span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><em><strong>or "absolutistic, rigid adherence to an idea</strong></em></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"><em>,"</em></span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><em><strong> is the core of disturbance and that the other beliefs are less critical and are created from demandingness.</strong></em></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><em><strong>Parent demandingness refers to an unrealistic expectation</strong></em></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"><em> of events of themselves as parents, or of others, in this case, their children (DiGiuseppe & Ketler, 2006). </em></span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><em><strong>Research has established that parental IBs can predict psychopathological symptoms like stress, anxiety, and emotional distress. </strong></em></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"> </span></p><p><em><a href="https://www.parentingforbrain.com/abusive-parents/" target="_blank">Why Do Parents Physically Abuse Their Children</a> </em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevevw, post: 77648827, member: 342064"] Yes it is and thats what the evidence shows. Do you want me to show the evdience again. But the social norms themselves are not necessarily abusive. I think you will find that when we look at the detail of prevention programs we see that its about restructuring the conditions of society to make people more equal. As your own link said on prevention that people need to be empowered who are disadvantaged which includes helping the disadvantaged in which ever way needed to strengthen their situation. Ah, no I am simply copying and pasting the evidence and just repeating what they are saying. Its pretty straight forward and clear. When they say distress is linked with unreal beliefs and abuse that is exactly what they mean. Wait a minute your the one who cited the PRIBS as the go to measure for parental beliefs about abuse. The PRIBS is a comprehensive measure of all parental beliefs including those relating to their children and dicipline. Do you honestly think the scale would neglect the most important beliefs regarding parenting that involve abuse considering the scale is about parenting, appropriate and inappropriate parenting and child developement. We did not go through the PRIBS point by point. I pointed out the core beliefs used in the scale especially Demandingness which is directly linked to parenting beliefs about inappropriate parenting including abusive controlling parenting ie Demandingness is about rigid and controlling thinking and parenting and linked to abusive discipline. Yes they do. The 4 basic beliefs Demandingness, Catastrophizing, Frustration Intolerance and Self-Downing cover all parental beliefs regarding how they interact with their child. Demandingness: This category of irrational beliefs contains absolutist, rigid beliefs which include should, ought, have to statements associated with harsh and abusive CP. [B][I][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)]Demandingness[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]:[/COLOR][/I][/B][I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)] This category of irrational beliefs contains [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]absolutist, rigid beliefs which include should, ought, have to statements.[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)] [/COLOR] [URL]https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ936304.pdf[/URL] [/I] [COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)] [/COLOR] [I][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]Clinical Implications.[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)] The aim of the P-RIBS is to contribute to [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]identifying cognitive mechanisms [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]that are responsible for parental[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B] dysregulated affect and behaviour.[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)] The validation of the P-RIBS has a number of implications to the field of parenting research and interventions. Specifically, the P-RIBS could lead to further understanding of[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B] [I]parents’ thinking in selecting different discipline strategies[/I], such as adaptive or maladaptive responses. [/B][/COLOR] [URL]https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877042811022749[/URL] [COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]Parental beliefs are also called in different ways; such as child rearing beliefs, parenting cognitions, parenting schemas. In a broad definition, however,[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B] [I][I]parental belief[/I][/I][/B][I][B]s consist of [/B][/I][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]parents’ beliefs about[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B] child rearing, parental expectation [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]of their children’s performing certain behavioral patterns, [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]parental perceptions[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)] of children behavior and parental roles as childcares,[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B] parental attribution [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]of their children’s behavior, and [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]parental self-efficacy[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]. [/COLOR] [URL]https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ936304.pdf[/URL] [/I] This article is about Rational emotive behavior therapy REBT which is based on the PRIBS and refers to the core belief 'Demandingness' which underpins the rigid and controlling Mindset and beliefs about the world. [I][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]Parents' appraisals [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]of their child's misbehavior[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B] influence their discipline strategy[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)], [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]often resulting in harsh or poor discipline style. [/B][/COLOR][/I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)][I]Mothers who perceive their children's misbehavior as intentional are almost [/I][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][I][B]three times more likely to engage in physical punishment[/B][/I][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)][I] than mothers who view their children's misbehavior as unintentional (Ateah & Durrant, 2005). Additionally, a mother’s [/I][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][I][B]negative appraisal of her child's behavior is positively related to engaging in an overreactive discipline style.[/B][/I][/COLOR] [I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]REBT has a long history of focusing on [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]thoughts, beliefs, and attitudes that affect parenting. [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]This[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B] [/B][/COLOR][/I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)][I]identifies five types of [/I][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][I][B]irrational beliefs (IBs):[/B][/I][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)][I] [/I][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][I][B]demandingness, awfulizing, frustration intolerance, self-condemnation, and other condemnation[/B][/I][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)][I]. The theory suggests that demandingness, [/I][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][I][B]or "absolutistic, rigid adherence to an idea[/B][/I][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)][I],"[/I][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][I][B] is the core of disturbance and that the other beliefs are less critical and are created from demandingness.[/B][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)][/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][I][B]Parent demandingness refers to an unrealistic expectation[/B][/I][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)][I] of events of themselves as parents, or of others, in this case, their children (DiGiuseppe & Ketler, 2006). [/I][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][I][B]Research has established that parental IBs can predict psychopathological symptoms like stress, anxiety, and emotional distress. [/B][/I][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)] [/COLOR] [I][URL="https://www.parentingforbrain.com/abusive-parents/"]Why Do Parents Physically Abuse Their Children[/URL] [/I] [/QUOTE]
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