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Kid's Corporal Punishment - a Risk to Mental Health
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<blockquote data-quote="stevevw" data-source="post: 77646692" data-attributes="member: 342064"><p>It depends on where you stand I would imagine. What you class as more of a problem. Certainly for those in war torn nations, war is the biggest issue. But for many in the west, in Australia though war is on their minds its other more local issues that are more pressing like the growing poor mental health.</p><p></p><p>Just on a week ago we had a mentally ill person kill 6 people while going about their daily life in a shopping centre. This will have caused trauma and psychological issues for many. Its more the phychological harm that lasts which is more prevasive.</p><p></p><p>Its actually very relevant and its not just throwing opinion around but fact. You can argue exactly where mental health ranks but theres no doubting its one of the significant issues facing modern society. Especially in the west. Any problem that effects nearly half the population is a significant problem.</p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">Mental illnesses are among the most common health conditions in the United States.</span></em></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.cdc.gov/mentalhealth/learn/index.htm#:~:text=Mental%20illnesses%20are%20among%20the,live%20with%20a%20mental%20illness.[/URL]</p><p></p><p><strong><em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">Depression is the leading cause of years lost due to disability</span></em></strong><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"><em>. Mental health problems including alcohol abuse are among <strong>the ten leading causes of disability. </strong>Depression is ranked third in the global burden of diseases.</em></span></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5100117/#:~:text=Depression%20is%20the%20leading%20cause,stigma%20and%20discrimination%20and%20abuse.[/URL]</p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">One out of every two people in the world will develop a mental health disorder in their lifetime.“Mental disorders are a major health problem worldwide, with massive unmet need for treatment,”</span></em></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://hms.harvard.edu/news/half-worlds-population-will-experience-mental-health-disorder[/URL]</p><p></p><p>I never said they were exactly the same thing, I said they are more or less the same thing. Once again you create a strawman.</p><p></p><p>They are related and feed into each other. Distress is the result of unhandled stress. As the APA article you linked states, <em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"><strong>"</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>stress contributes directly to psychological and physiological disorder</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"><strong> and disease and affects mental and physical health, reducing quality of life."</strong></span></em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Psychological disorders is distress. Stress and distress are directly linked. So where we will find prolonged stress we will find higher rates of distress. </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">But your link is also supporting my case because its showing how stress and distress actually effects mental states and behaviour when it states</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"><em>Stress can become unhealthy when it </em></span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><em><strong>upsets your day-to-day functioning, </strong></em></span></p><p><em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">Stress involves changes affecting nearly every system of the body, </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>influencing how people feel and behave</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>Various </strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">physical, </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>cognitive, </strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">and social </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>changes also tend to co-occur, including</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"> lack of motivation, </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>difficulty concentrating or making decisions</strong></span></em></p><p></p><p>Here is the quote also from the APA I originally linked which states distress is <span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">"</span><em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">the </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>negative stress response</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">, often involving negative affect and physiological reactivity: </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>a type of stress</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"> that results from being overwhelmed" </span></em></p><p></p><p>So the APA is saying 'Distress' is a type of 'Stress' which is a "<em>negative stress response</em>"..</p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">So do you think these cognitive changes will influence their behaviour and the way a parent sees the world, their child and the decisions they make and cause them to percieve things unreal and cause inappropriate behaviour towards the child.</span></p><p></p><p>Exactly which supports that psychological distress and psychological maladaptation experienced by parents can cause detrimental and counter-productive thinking, beliefs and behaviours towards children.</p><p></p><p>Its obviously to do with psychological states of mind being dysfunctional and not within the normal range of health cognition and resulting behaviour. Distortion and maladaptative thinking. Its not normal functioning, it leads to inappropriate thinking and behaviour. </p><p></p><p>The quote gives some hints ie<em> "negative affect and physiological reactivity", "being overwhelmed",</em> so its about psychological distress, not handling things, not coping and the result thinking, beliefs and behaviours.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So this doesn't indicate they are interlinked<em> "distress is the<strong> negative stress response</strong>, often involving negative affect and physiological reactivity: <strong>a type of stress </strong>that results from being overwhelmed" </em></p><p></p><p>What do theymean by distress being a type of stress.</p><p></p><p>Once again a strawman. No one is saying "stress made the person abuse". It is saying that its a contributory factor in the mix as to why people abuse and become violent. Violence itself is a form of intense reactivity associated with stressed states. Severe aggression is a form of stress state. You can't seperate it out of the equation.</p><p></p><p>We don't in regards to excusing the behaviour. But we do recognise the roles of stress and distress in contributing. Denying this will distort our understanding of why people abuse and commit violence.</p><p></p><p>Why do so many courts refer offenders to anger management and psychological therapy is they don't think the inability to handle stress and distress is not an important factor.</p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">These results underline the </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>necessity of assessing and addressing symptoms of psychological distress and AD among men perpetrators</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"> in the treatment of IPV.</span></em></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/08862605211072174[/URL]</p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">While there is </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>no single cause that leads to domestic violence</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">, there are a number of risk factors associated with perpetrators and people who experience domestic violence.</span></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>A perpetrator’s drug or alcohol use</strong></span> <span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>may exacerbate violence.</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"> A </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>previous history of violence or offending behavior</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"> may also indicate possibility of domestic violence. The victim may be </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>vulnerable from childhood abuse or insecurities and worries</strong></span><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)"> about their financial stress, dependence on the perpetrator for income,</span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong> or other issues causing anxiety and fear.</strong></span></em></p><p><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">[URL unfurl="true"]https://wayahead.org.au/get-the-facts/domestic-and-family-violence/[/URL]</span></p><p></p><p><strong>Violent Behavior: A Measure of Emotional Upset?</strong></p><p><em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">Our study suggests that </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>violent behaviour is more likely a response to stress among individuals with particular coping and appraisal tendencies.</strong></span></em></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.jstor.org/stable/3090196[/URL]</p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">Evidence suggests that stressed couples also tend to be aggressive couples. Chronic external stresses interact with individuals’ dispositional and regulatory deficiencies, resulting in a spillover of these stresses into the relationship. </span><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><strong>High individual stress in combination with problematic interaction styles and problem-solving abilities increases the likelihood of IPA.</strong></span></em></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5421636/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>No thats your take as you think in either and or fallacies. I said why people abuse and use violence is a complex mix of determinants for which stress and distress play a major role.</p><p></p><p>Just as the links I posted including what yours clearly agrees with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevevw, post: 77646692, member: 342064"] It depends on where you stand I would imagine. What you class as more of a problem. Certainly for those in war torn nations, war is the biggest issue. But for many in the west, in Australia though war is on their minds its other more local issues that are more pressing like the growing poor mental health. Just on a week ago we had a mentally ill person kill 6 people while going about their daily life in a shopping centre. This will have caused trauma and psychological issues for many. Its more the phychological harm that lasts which is more prevasive. Its actually very relevant and its not just throwing opinion around but fact. You can argue exactly where mental health ranks but theres no doubting its one of the significant issues facing modern society. Especially in the west. Any problem that effects nearly half the population is a significant problem. [I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]Mental illnesses are among the most common health conditions in the United States.[/COLOR][/I] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.cdc.gov/mentalhealth/learn/index.htm#:~:text=Mental%20illnesses%20are%20among%20the,live%20with%20a%20mental%20illness.[/URL] [B][I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]Depression is the leading cause of years lost due to disability[/COLOR][/I][/B][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)][I]. Mental health problems including alcohol abuse are among [B]the ten leading causes of disability. [/B]Depression is ranked third in the global burden of diseases.[/I][/COLOR] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5100117/#:~:text=Depression%20is%20the%20leading%20cause,stigma%20and%20discrimination%20and%20abuse.[/URL] [I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]One out of every two people in the world will develop a mental health disorder in their lifetime.“Mental disorders are a major health problem worldwide, with massive unmet need for treatment,”[/COLOR][/I] [URL unfurl="true"]https://hms.harvard.edu/news/half-worlds-population-will-experience-mental-health-disorder[/URL] I never said they were exactly the same thing, I said they are more or less the same thing. Once again you create a strawman. They are related and feed into each other. Distress is the result of unhandled stress. As the APA article you linked states, [I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)][B]"[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]stress contributes directly to psychological and physiological disorder[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)][B] and disease and affects mental and physical health, reducing quality of life."[/B][/COLOR][/I] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]Psychological disorders is distress. Stress and distress are directly linked. So where we will find prolonged stress we will find higher rates of distress. But your link is also supporting my case because its showing how stress and distress actually effects mental states and behaviour when it states[/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)][I]Stress can become unhealthy when it [/I][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][I][B]upsets your day-to-day functioning, [/B][/I][/COLOR] [I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]Stress involves changes affecting nearly every system of the body, [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]influencing how people feel and behave[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)].[/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]Various [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]physical, [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]cognitive, [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]and social [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]changes also tend to co-occur, including[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)] lack of motivation, [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]difficulty concentrating or making decisions[/B][/COLOR][/I] Here is the quote also from the APA I originally linked which states distress is [COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]"[/COLOR][I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]the [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]negative stress response[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)], often involving negative affect and physiological reactivity: [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]a type of stress[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)] that results from being overwhelmed" [/COLOR][/I] So the APA is saying 'Distress' is a type of 'Stress' which is a "[I]negative stress response[/I]".. [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]So do you think these cognitive changes will influence their behaviour and the way a parent sees the world, their child and the decisions they make and cause them to percieve things unreal and cause inappropriate behaviour towards the child.[/COLOR] Exactly which supports that psychological distress and psychological maladaptation experienced by parents can cause detrimental and counter-productive thinking, beliefs and behaviours towards children. Its obviously to do with psychological states of mind being dysfunctional and not within the normal range of health cognition and resulting behaviour. Distortion and maladaptative thinking. Its not normal functioning, it leads to inappropriate thinking and behaviour. The quote gives some hints ie[I] "negative affect and physiological reactivity", "being overwhelmed",[/I] so its about psychological distress, not handling things, not coping and the result thinking, beliefs and behaviours. So this doesn't indicate they are interlinked[I] "distress is the[B] negative stress response[/B], often involving negative affect and physiological reactivity: [B]a type of stress [/B]that results from being overwhelmed" [/I] What do theymean by distress being a type of stress. Once again a strawman. No one is saying "stress made the person abuse". It is saying that its a contributory factor in the mix as to why people abuse and become violent. Violence itself is a form of intense reactivity associated with stressed states. Severe aggression is a form of stress state. You can't seperate it out of the equation. We don't in regards to excusing the behaviour. But we do recognise the roles of stress and distress in contributing. Denying this will distort our understanding of why people abuse and commit violence. Why do so many courts refer offenders to anger management and psychological therapy is they don't think the inability to handle stress and distress is not an important factor. [I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]These results underline the [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]necessity of assessing and addressing symptoms of psychological distress and AD among men perpetrators[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)] in the treatment of IPV.[/COLOR][/I] [URL unfurl="true"]https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/08862605211072174[/URL] [I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]While there is [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]no single cause that leads to domestic violence[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)], there are a number of risk factors associated with perpetrators and people who experience domestic violence.[/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]A perpetrator’s drug or alcohol use[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]may exacerbate violence.[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)] A [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]previous history of violence or offending behavior[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)] may also indicate possibility of domestic violence. The victim may be [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]vulnerable from childhood abuse or insecurities and worries[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)] about their financial stress, dependence on the perpetrator for income,[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B] or other issues causing anxiety and fear.[/B][/COLOR][/I] [COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)][URL unfurl="true"]https://wayahead.org.au/get-the-facts/domestic-and-family-violence/[/URL][/COLOR] [B]Violent Behavior: A Measure of Emotional Upset?[/B] [I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]Our study suggests that [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]violent behaviour is more likely a response to stress among individuals with particular coping and appraisal tendencies.[/B][/COLOR][/I] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.jstor.org/stable/3090196[/URL] [I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]Evidence suggests that stressed couples also tend to be aggressive couples. Chronic external stresses interact with individuals’ dispositional and regulatory deficiencies, resulting in a spillover of these stresses into the relationship. [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][B]High individual stress in combination with problematic interaction styles and problem-solving abilities increases the likelihood of IPA.[/B][/COLOR][/I] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5421636/[/URL] No thats your take as you think in either and or fallacies. I said why people abuse and use violence is a complex mix of determinants for which stress and distress play a major role. Just as the links I posted including what yours clearly agrees with. [/QUOTE]
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