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Kid's Corporal Punishment - a Risk to Mental Health
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<blockquote data-quote="stevevw" data-source="post: 77639395" data-attributes="member: 342064"><p>But you just said you linked into it a couple of posts back. That is not hard to find just that one post. You just have to click the back button 2 or 3 times to find it. If you claim its wrong then prove it otherwise your objection is refuted and baseless. This is what I am talking about in how debates work.</p><p></p><p>You make a claim about my evidence but don't link anything to substanciate that. I then look for it myself and cannot find it. So the obvious thing to do is to ask the person making the claim to give the link so I can correct it. The onus is oin you not me to back up your claim. But you seem to not even be willing to do that which seems strange.</p><p></p><p>I then have to assume there is no such link.</p><p></p><p>I think I know the mistake you made. You clicked in to the link that says physical punishment within the quote which was just explaining what physical punishment is and not the actual link for the article itself. I only put the quotes in the post to highlight the sections relating to my claims without the link to the article. But if you were follwong things you should have known that, Once again here is the link for the 7th time. Notice how the link to <em><strong><a href="https://www.parentingforbrain.com/spanking/" target="_blank"><u>physical punishment</u></a> </strong></em>is embedded in the articles link.</p><p></p><p><em>The abusive parents have <strong>unrealistic expectations</strong> of their children and have unrealistic expectations of their children. Abusive parents are usually <strong>rigid and inflexible in their thinking</strong>. Parents who use <strong>coercive disciplinary strategies, such as <a href="https://www.parentingforbrain.com/spanking/" target="_blank"><u>physical punishment</u></a></strong>, tend to be over-sensitive to their children’s emotions. They can be overreactive even when the child has not yet been defiant or resistant. Those who abuse children are more likely to use </em><strong><em><a href="https://www.parentingforbrain.com/coercive-parenting/" target="_blank"><u>coercive disciplinary methods</u></a></em></strong><em> and believe that<strong> harsh punishment</strong> is the only way to discipline. They tend to <strong>experience higher stress</strong> levels, depression, self-blame, and social isolation.</em></p><p><a href="https://www.parentingforbrain.com/abusive-parents/" target="_blank">Why Do Parents Physically Abuse Their Children</a></p><p></p><p>And thats exactly what I have done. I have narrowed it down to that one link you claim is not there and yet I have linked it on 6 seperate occassions. I just linked it again on its own for you. all by itself with as you say <span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">"</span><em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">a clear quote of which part of it I think is key to my argument, and make it clear which of of my many claims I think this supports". </span></em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Ie clerar quotes linking distress, beliefs in control and abusive physical dicipline.<strong> I even broke it down step by step for you</strong> and defeated your objection about the meaning of 'harsh' dicipline actually meaning physical abusive dicipline and you still ignore it. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">So how do we recognise personal opinion from the facts and truth. Is it not using objective independent evidence. So when you claim I am just expressing my personal opinion and you don't offer any independent arguement or evidence such as with the last article I have linked then all you have yourself is personal opinion. </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">If this is the case how on earth do we have a coherent debate. You have to be willing to apply the same epistemic standard you expect of me to yourself otherwise your not engaging in the true spirit of debate. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevevw, post: 77639395, member: 342064"] But you just said you linked into it a couple of posts back. That is not hard to find just that one post. You just have to click the back button 2 or 3 times to find it. If you claim its wrong then prove it otherwise your objection is refuted and baseless. This is what I am talking about in how debates work. You make a claim about my evidence but don't link anything to substanciate that. I then look for it myself and cannot find it. So the obvious thing to do is to ask the person making the claim to give the link so I can correct it. The onus is oin you not me to back up your claim. But you seem to not even be willing to do that which seems strange. I then have to assume there is no such link. I think I know the mistake you made. You clicked in to the link that says physical punishment within the quote which was just explaining what physical punishment is and not the actual link for the article itself. I only put the quotes in the post to highlight the sections relating to my claims without the link to the article. But if you were follwong things you should have known that, Once again here is the link for the 7th time. Notice how the link to [I][B][URL='https://www.parentingforbrain.com/spanking/'][U]physical punishment[/U][/URL] [/B][/I]is embedded in the articles link. [I]The abusive parents have [B]unrealistic expectations[/B] of their children and have unrealistic expectations of their children. Abusive parents are usually [B]rigid and inflexible in their thinking[/B]. Parents who use [B]coercive disciplinary strategies, such as [URL='https://www.parentingforbrain.com/spanking/'][U]physical punishment[/U][/URL][/B], tend to be over-sensitive to their children’s emotions. They can be overreactive even when the child has not yet been defiant or resistant. Those who abuse children are more likely to use [/I][B][I][URL='https://www.parentingforbrain.com/coercive-parenting/'][U]coercive disciplinary methods[/U][/URL][/I][/B][I] and believe that[B] harsh punishment[/B] is the only way to discipline. They tend to [B]experience higher stress[/B] levels, depression, self-blame, and social isolation.[/I] [URL='https://www.parentingforbrain.com/abusive-parents/']Why Do Parents Physically Abuse Their Children[/URL] And thats exactly what I have done. I have narrowed it down to that one link you claim is not there and yet I have linked it on 6 seperate occassions. I just linked it again on its own for you. all by itself with as you say [COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]"[/COLOR][I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]a clear quote of which part of it I think is key to my argument, and make it clear which of of my many claims I think this supports". [/COLOR][/I] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]Ie clerar quotes linking distress, beliefs in control and abusive physical dicipline.[B] I even broke it down step by step for you[/B] and defeated your objection about the meaning of 'harsh' dicipline actually meaning physical abusive dicipline and you still ignore it. [/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]So how do we recognise personal opinion from the facts and truth. Is it not using objective independent evidence. So when you claim I am just expressing my personal opinion and you don't offer any independent arguement or evidence such as with the last article I have linked then all you have yourself is personal opinion. If this is the case how on earth do we have a coherent debate. You have to be willing to apply the same epistemic standard you expect of me to yourself otherwise your not engaging in the true spirit of debate. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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