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Is modern secular society headed down the path to Sodom and Gomorrah.
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<blockquote data-quote="stevevw" data-source="post: 77659222" data-attributes="member: 342064"><p>I don't think the canon is meant to be just a product of the west but rather the significant literature that had an impact and influence on western thought.</p><p></p><p>I am not ignoring it but rather how Christian values and thinking Christianized those writings. For example Plato's 'the Good' was seen through the eyes of the Christian God as the basis for the 'Good' which influenced ethical writings.</p><p></p><p>I am talking for the west. The bible was preserved due to its importance like no other writings. It was the first book printed and translated into different languages within the west and this was literally the first book the general public had access to.</p><p></p><p>But before that it was meticulously copied in writings within the church and beofre that it was in other texts such as on papyrus and sections of the Old Testament, the stories were around very early as early as the authors themselves as they are referred to in other texts around at the time.</p><p></p><p>I am talking about the Golden Rule as seen through the west. The Christian worldview of how this applied influenced western values on this.</p><p></p><p>I also want to point out that the idea that all cultures have their own ideas about the Golden Rule supports the idea that all cultures have the same core beliefs and values because this is part of being human. We are innately believers and have a sense of morality suchas empathy.</p><p></p><p>This seems an overly critical view. A crank seems harsh when any balanced and reasonable position would have to acknowledge the massive contribution he has given to many who are struggling especially men who need this type of advice to overcome the high rates of mental illness. But also his informed views on a number of issues.</p><p></p><p>Pablum, its interesting you use such a word that is more about personal feelings than fact. I am not such the millions who are benefiting from his lectures and videos would say is stuff is bland. Quite the opposite. So perhaps this is more about your subjective feelings or ideology about the guy rather than his actual works.</p><p></p><p>Anyway I didn't realize Peterson held such importance that a seperate reply is needed to disqualify the man rather than value the content of his works.</p><p></p><p>Like I said the canon is not just about western texts but the texts that influenced western thought. Which sort of shows that even outside cultural ideas aligned with western thought. Western thought at its most fundemental is really universal as its about truth, the search for truth.</p><p></p><p>What is my arguement, that western culture was heavily influenced by the Christian worldview and that this has been dismantled especially in recent times into a new worldview without the Christian God.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevevw, post: 77659222, member: 342064"] I don't think the canon is meant to be just a product of the west but rather the significant literature that had an impact and influence on western thought. I am not ignoring it but rather how Christian values and thinking Christianized those writings. For example Plato's 'the Good' was seen through the eyes of the Christian God as the basis for the 'Good' which influenced ethical writings. I am talking for the west. The bible was preserved due to its importance like no other writings. It was the first book printed and translated into different languages within the west and this was literally the first book the general public had access to. But before that it was meticulously copied in writings within the church and beofre that it was in other texts such as on papyrus and sections of the Old Testament, the stories were around very early as early as the authors themselves as they are referred to in other texts around at the time. I am talking about the Golden Rule as seen through the west. The Christian worldview of how this applied influenced western values on this. I also want to point out that the idea that all cultures have their own ideas about the Golden Rule supports the idea that all cultures have the same core beliefs and values because this is part of being human. We are innately believers and have a sense of morality suchas empathy. This seems an overly critical view. A crank seems harsh when any balanced and reasonable position would have to acknowledge the massive contribution he has given to many who are struggling especially men who need this type of advice to overcome the high rates of mental illness. But also his informed views on a number of issues. Pablum, its interesting you use such a word that is more about personal feelings than fact. I am not such the millions who are benefiting from his lectures and videos would say is stuff is bland. Quite the opposite. So perhaps this is more about your subjective feelings or ideology about the guy rather than his actual works. Anyway I didn't realize Peterson held such importance that a seperate reply is needed to disqualify the man rather than value the content of his works. Like I said the canon is not just about western texts but the texts that influenced western thought. Which sort of shows that even outside cultural ideas aligned with western thought. Western thought at its most fundemental is really universal as its about truth, the search for truth. What is my arguement, that western culture was heavily influenced by the Christian worldview and that this has been dismantled especially in recent times into a new worldview without the Christian God. [/QUOTE]
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