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Is modern secular society headed down the path to Sodom and Gomorrah.
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<blockquote data-quote="stevevw" data-source="post: 77652985" data-attributes="member: 342064"><p>I cannot help what others feel about the associations. These are just observations of society that people make. How culture changes, how it compares to the past, how moral mores have changed. </p><p></p><p>I am not the first to make the observation and plenty have including from a non religious perspecvtive such as through anthropology, evolution, genetics, cross cultural psychology which is my area of interest. </p><p></p><p>So you agree that the west was the vehicle for which Christianity was brought to the world. We can't just reject our own history because of the bad stuff that happened. Nor make the bad stuff the only stuff to be fffocused on. </p><p></p><p>I think its important to remember the truths and values we learnt and keep hold of them, protect them and remind ourselves of them as they are what will keep our sanity, morality and order. </p><p></p><p>They have been tried and tested and were realised through a lot of mistakes and hardships so we know they work and hold true. Once we let them slip then we begin to decend into chaos. Which is beginning to happen already as we are seeing with the divisions and antagonism between people and groups. </p><p></p><p>No there not human because they transcend human ideas and values. Like the natural unalienable rights such as the right to life. This truth transcends any single human, or group or States ideas about rights and human worth. We recognise the truth is law a law of nature and defying it can lead to societies downfall. </p><p></p><p>Like the right to a free conscience. No one can make a measure or create a value that dictates to another that they have no right to their own freedom of conscience. Its a self evident and transcedent truth that goes with being human. Sure you can deny it but we do at our own peril. </p><p></p><p>Like reality, our lived reality, our embodied reality. No one can create some human made nature and order for humans or change nature. Like physical reality, we defy it at our own peril. We create disorder when we play god and mess with nature. </p><p></p><p>Yeah why not, theres so many. The alien saga got everyone excited hoping that some starman was going to visit. But that seemed to have died down. </p><p></p><p>I reckon its going to be virtual reality and Ai. That is going to be the next big godlike belief. Belief in the power and magic of Ai. I mean we can create Ai gods with supernatural like abilities. A growing number are so immersed in the digital world I don't think they would be able to tell the difference lol. Its scary really.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevevw, post: 77652985, member: 342064"] I cannot help what others feel about the associations. These are just observations of society that people make. How culture changes, how it compares to the past, how moral mores have changed. I am not the first to make the observation and plenty have including from a non religious perspecvtive such as through anthropology, evolution, genetics, cross cultural psychology which is my area of interest. So you agree that the west was the vehicle for which Christianity was brought to the world. We can't just reject our own history because of the bad stuff that happened. Nor make the bad stuff the only stuff to be fffocused on. I think its important to remember the truths and values we learnt and keep hold of them, protect them and remind ourselves of them as they are what will keep our sanity, morality and order. They have been tried and tested and were realised through a lot of mistakes and hardships so we know they work and hold true. Once we let them slip then we begin to decend into chaos. Which is beginning to happen already as we are seeing with the divisions and antagonism between people and groups. No there not human because they transcend human ideas and values. Like the natural unalienable rights such as the right to life. This truth transcends any single human, or group or States ideas about rights and human worth. We recognise the truth is law a law of nature and defying it can lead to societies downfall. Like the right to a free conscience. No one can make a measure or create a value that dictates to another that they have no right to their own freedom of conscience. Its a self evident and transcedent truth that goes with being human. Sure you can deny it but we do at our own peril. Like reality, our lived reality, our embodied reality. No one can create some human made nature and order for humans or change nature. Like physical reality, we defy it at our own peril. We create disorder when we play god and mess with nature. Yeah why not, theres so many. The alien saga got everyone excited hoping that some starman was going to visit. But that seemed to have died down. I reckon its going to be virtual reality and Ai. That is going to be the next big godlike belief. Belief in the power and magic of Ai. I mean we can create Ai gods with supernatural like abilities. A growing number are so immersed in the digital world I don't think they would be able to tell the difference lol. Its scary really. [/QUOTE]
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