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If you have German ancestors, how could or should they feel about it?
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<blockquote data-quote="Benjamin Müller" data-source="post: 77230363" data-attributes="member: 409781"><p>For what it's worth, Hitler was Austrian, not German, so it would actually be faulty to think this thread is about <em>Hitler</em>. As far as the Holocaust goes, there were German Jews living there and to be fair--not all of them were exactly righteous: think Jeffery Epstein. Now, please note: I'm not denying the holocaust, nor am I blaming Jews, but you do get bad people on <em>both </em>sides of the playing field. And unfortunately, all you need is one or a half a dozen bad Jews and it can sour the name for the rest of the decent, law-abiding Jews. And it goes for the Nazis as well. Get a couple bad Nazis and it ruins it for the rest of the men in the Nazi party.</p><p></p><p>During WW2, Hitler called Germans back to fight. And there was man living in my area, who was German, and he got called back and since he spoke perfect English (being raised American) he was put in interrogating soldiers. Well, one day, an American soldier who was fighting against the Third Reich, got captured; and the German man recognized him, and the American recognized the German. They shared the same hometown in America, and it was all, "HEY BUDDY! How's it going? So what are you doing in the war? How'd you get here?"</p><p></p><p>The Germans actually treated American POWs very well. </p><p></p><p>Here in America at Fort Niagara, we held German POWs. And we sent them off to farms to work. I mean. . .where are they going to run to? They gonna swim back to Germany? And some of the Germans who were being housed at Fort Niagara actually came back to WNY to live here because they liked it so much. </p><p></p><p>You can't say all Nazis are horrible, horrible people just because they had a political label anymore than you can say all Jews are bad and we need a final solution. I don't do double-standards. </p><p></p><p>So this actually <em>can</em> be a broad and wide ranging subject that doesn't have to focus in only on the world wars. Bismarck was quite the politician, and Martin Luther rocked the boat with the Catholic Church. There's more to German history than just the last 120 years. We could discuss the 40 some German Holy Roman Emperors from Charlemagne to Napoleon. </p><p></p><p>Even if genetically I am more Israelite than Germanic, I am glad that my ancestors grew up in Germany because the Germans have a fabulous work ethic; they are calm and level-headed, and well-organized. I'm really glad to have some of those traits in my personality. Western New York has a lot of German heritage, so much so, that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_on_weck" target="_blank">Beef on Weck</a> is a local specialty, most probably created by a German baker, who came to Buffalo, NY. </p><p></p><p>Other Beef on Weck's that restaurants try to pass off around the country are pathetic and disappointing. </p><p></p><p>Germans have good food; and I like food. If I was a beer drinker, I'd only drink German beer because they know how to do it right.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Benjamin Müller, post: 77230363, member: 409781"] For what it's worth, Hitler was Austrian, not German, so it would actually be faulty to think this thread is about [I]Hitler[/I]. As far as the Holocaust goes, there were German Jews living there and to be fair--not all of them were exactly righteous: think Jeffery Epstein. Now, please note: I'm not denying the holocaust, nor am I blaming Jews, but you do get bad people on [I]both [/I]sides of the playing field. And unfortunately, all you need is one or a half a dozen bad Jews and it can sour the name for the rest of the decent, law-abiding Jews. And it goes for the Nazis as well. Get a couple bad Nazis and it ruins it for the rest of the men in the Nazi party. During WW2, Hitler called Germans back to fight. And there was man living in my area, who was German, and he got called back and since he spoke perfect English (being raised American) he was put in interrogating soldiers. Well, one day, an American soldier who was fighting against the Third Reich, got captured; and the German man recognized him, and the American recognized the German. They shared the same hometown in America, and it was all, "HEY BUDDY! How's it going? So what are you doing in the war? How'd you get here?" The Germans actually treated American POWs very well. Here in America at Fort Niagara, we held German POWs. And we sent them off to farms to work. I mean. . .where are they going to run to? They gonna swim back to Germany? And some of the Germans who were being housed at Fort Niagara actually came back to WNY to live here because they liked it so much. You can't say all Nazis are horrible, horrible people just because they had a political label anymore than you can say all Jews are bad and we need a final solution. I don't do double-standards. So this actually [I]can[/I] be a broad and wide ranging subject that doesn't have to focus in only on the world wars. Bismarck was quite the politician, and Martin Luther rocked the boat with the Catholic Church. There's more to German history than just the last 120 years. We could discuss the 40 some German Holy Roman Emperors from Charlemagne to Napoleon. Even if genetically I am more Israelite than Germanic, I am glad that my ancestors grew up in Germany because the Germans have a fabulous work ethic; they are calm and level-headed, and well-organized. I'm really glad to have some of those traits in my personality. Western New York has a lot of German heritage, so much so, that [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_on_weck']Beef on Weck[/URL] is a local specialty, most probably created by a German baker, who came to Buffalo, NY. Other Beef on Weck's that restaurants try to pass off around the country are pathetic and disappointing. Germans have good food; and I like food. If I was a beer drinker, I'd only drink German beer because they know how to do it right. [/QUOTE]
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