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Struggles by Non-Christians
I think I'm unregnerate, reprobate, vessel of wrath, despairing, tried all I can think of
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<blockquote data-quote="ldonjohn" data-source="post: 75648655" data-attributes="member: 339395"><p>VCR,</p><p></p><p>I have been a christian for over 40 years and I can tell you that I do not envision heaven as a place that I would want to escape; not because of my devotion to God, but because of His devotion to me. You, see VCR, God was so devoted to me that He, Jesus, died on a cross, shed His blood there and suffered a horrible death of excruciating agonizing pain that I myself should suffer in hell. He took my sin upon Himself & paid the penalty for me so that I could be forgiven. He did that for you too.</p><p>No, VCR, I will not want to escape God, nor would I want to overthrow Him. I will spend eternity thanking Him for what He did for me. Although the bible tells us that we cannot imagine what heaven will be like, it does say that God is creating a new home for us and that we will have new glorified bodies. It also tells us that God will someday bring heaven down to earth where we will live for eternity. Now think about that, VCR. God's original creation of this earth and man was perfect until satan corrupted it, and some day God will remake His creation to be perfect again. He can do that because of the cross.</p><p>I imagine that God will remake His creation in a similar fashion & with a similar purpose in which He created the original earth.</p><p>I imagine that instead of playing a harp while floating around on a cloud, which is what I have heard some skeptics say about the matter, that we will have some kind of task or job to do that is related to the gifts & abilities God gave each one of us while we were here on earth and also in relation to our level of service to Him now. I believe that if we could look into heaven now and see that it is so much more than anyone could ever imagine that we would want to skip out of this life and be there now.</p><p>Finally, if you are not sure about God, then ask Him to show you whatever it is that you need so that you would change your mind about Him. I did that a long time ago, not knowing what He would show me but willing to accept it if I was convinced it was the truth, and He did show me exactly the things I needed and He convinced me it was truth. I found my answer in the Gospel of John.</p><p></p><p>Regard,</p><p></p><p>John</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ldonjohn, post: 75648655, member: 339395"] VCR, I have been a christian for over 40 years and I can tell you that I do not envision heaven as a place that I would want to escape; not because of my devotion to God, but because of His devotion to me. You, see VCR, God was so devoted to me that He, Jesus, died on a cross, shed His blood there and suffered a horrible death of excruciating agonizing pain that I myself should suffer in hell. He took my sin upon Himself & paid the penalty for me so that I could be forgiven. He did that for you too. No, VCR, I will not want to escape God, nor would I want to overthrow Him. I will spend eternity thanking Him for what He did for me. Although the bible tells us that we cannot imagine what heaven will be like, it does say that God is creating a new home for us and that we will have new glorified bodies. It also tells us that God will someday bring heaven down to earth where we will live for eternity. Now think about that, VCR. God's original creation of this earth and man was perfect until satan corrupted it, and some day God will remake His creation to be perfect again. He can do that because of the cross. I imagine that God will remake His creation in a similar fashion & with a similar purpose in which He created the original earth. I imagine that instead of playing a harp while floating around on a cloud, which is what I have heard some skeptics say about the matter, that we will have some kind of task or job to do that is related to the gifts & abilities God gave each one of us while we were here on earth and also in relation to our level of service to Him now. I believe that if we could look into heaven now and see that it is so much more than anyone could ever imagine that we would want to skip out of this life and be there now. Finally, if you are not sure about God, then ask Him to show you whatever it is that you need so that you would change your mind about Him. I did that a long time ago, not knowing what He would show me but willing to accept it if I was convinced it was the truth, and He did show me exactly the things I needed and He convinced me it was truth. I found my answer in the Gospel of John. Regard, John [/QUOTE]
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