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How long to rebuild civilisation after an all out nuclear war?
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<blockquote data-quote="eclipsenow" data-source="post: 75132352" data-attributes="member: 274355"><p>Now the Canticle is a book my father has raved about for years but I've never read. I guess I needed a break from the genre after The Road!</p><p></p><p>Anyway, first, there are a lot of chipsets now that various PC people could kludge together in different ways, especially with 99% of the population already gone. They could be used to help co-ordinate the build out of all this stuff, and this stuff is only necessary after you've already used up all the second hand industrial stuff. <a href="https://www.opensourceecology.org/gvcs/gvcs-machine-index/" target="_blank">https://www.opensourceecology.org/gvcs/gvcs-machine-index/</a></p><p></p><p>As for actually making home computing? I'm a humanities geek, not a technical boffin. But a 99% fatality rate puts the population of New South Wales back from 7.5 million to just 75,000. The good side of this is there are plenty of computers to go around for a long time to come. The bad side is how do you store all that to last?</p><p></p><p>The interesting news is the electronics boffins don't seem to think it would be impossible for a backyard industry to make chips - but the first generation of newly cooked up future chips are going to be huge and ugly and like something from maybe the 1980's. But just think of the engineering feats 1980's computers were able to do? That's hardly Medieval.</p><p></p><p>Basically, after the shock of a civilisation melt down I'm hoping couples are feeling like lots of kids and that the average family size has more than 4 kids. That's a doubling every 25 years, which brings you from 75k to 1.2 million people in New South Wales in a century. By then, maybe they will be building their own 1980's chips - or just buying them in from America or China again. (Which will have much larger populations that have also grown up.)</p><p></p><p>Backyard chips at:-</p><p><a href="https://www.instructables.com/id/Home-Semiconductor-Manufacturing/" target="_blank">Home Semiconductor Manufacturing</a></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-construct-my-own-computer-chips" target="_blank">How to construct my own computer chips - Quora</a></p><p></p><p>Also note: they probably won't need to rebuild the Sydney Harbour Bridge (if it was nuked) until the population reaches a million anyway... which was where we were back in 1923 and we didn't really even have computers when we built the Habour Bridge. So old tech from the 1980's back in 1923 helping them engineer stuff certainly seems like a head start! This is where the 1% survivors will have such a weird world, where they know so much and can dream of so much, but are so limited by their lower industrial capacity. But knowledge from the 'future past' will be strong, and growing, and calling them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eclipsenow, post: 75132352, member: 274355"] Now the Canticle is a book my father has raved about for years but I've never read. I guess I needed a break from the genre after The Road! Anyway, first, there are a lot of chipsets now that various PC people could kludge together in different ways, especially with 99% of the population already gone. They could be used to help co-ordinate the build out of all this stuff, and this stuff is only necessary after you've already used up all the second hand industrial stuff. [URL]https://www.opensourceecology.org/gvcs/gvcs-machine-index/[/URL] As for actually making home computing? I'm a humanities geek, not a technical boffin. But a 99% fatality rate puts the population of New South Wales back from 7.5 million to just 75,000. The good side of this is there are plenty of computers to go around for a long time to come. The bad side is how do you store all that to last? The interesting news is the electronics boffins don't seem to think it would be impossible for a backyard industry to make chips - but the first generation of newly cooked up future chips are going to be huge and ugly and like something from maybe the 1980's. But just think of the engineering feats 1980's computers were able to do? That's hardly Medieval. Basically, after the shock of a civilisation melt down I'm hoping couples are feeling like lots of kids and that the average family size has more than 4 kids. That's a doubling every 25 years, which brings you from 75k to 1.2 million people in New South Wales in a century. By then, maybe they will be building their own 1980's chips - or just buying them in from America or China again. (Which will have much larger populations that have also grown up.) Backyard chips at:- [URL="https://www.instructables.com/id/Home-Semiconductor-Manufacturing/"]Home Semiconductor Manufacturing[/URL] [URL="https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-construct-my-own-computer-chips"]How to construct my own computer chips - Quora[/URL] Also note: they probably won't need to rebuild the Sydney Harbour Bridge (if it was nuked) until the population reaches a million anyway... which was where we were back in 1923 and we didn't really even have computers when we built the Habour Bridge. So old tech from the 1980's back in 1923 helping them engineer stuff certainly seems like a head start! This is where the 1% survivors will have such a weird world, where they know so much and can dream of so much, but are so limited by their lower industrial capacity. But knowledge from the 'future past' will be strong, and growing, and calling them. [/QUOTE]
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