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<blockquote data-quote="Mark Quayle" data-source="post: 77434071" data-attributes="member: 410020"><p>If they are sin, continuing in sin is evidence you do not belong to Christ. Those things cannot stop you from being forgiven, and if your sins are forgiven, you will enter heaven. </p><p></p><p>"Accept Christ" is not a phrase the Bible uses. "Receive him" is. And there is a huge difference. The one implies that your salvation depends on the integrity of your choice. The other opens up a whole world of possibility, where it is GOD'S choice that saves. It is not by your will that you are saved, but by the will of God. You DO, however, willingly submit to him, will to obey, will to repent of sin, will to pursue Christ, etc. </p><p></p><p>There are clear differences in the various religions. No other religion gives you the gospel of Christ. But that doesn't mean that all who claim Christianity, or claim to believe, or claim to be born again, are saved. <em>"The demons also believe —and tremble."</em></p><p></p><p>I also do not believe in Evolution as such, but my reasons are not because it necessarily contradicts the Bible (it doesn't), but because of too many generalizations and inconsistencies and assumptions and revisions. I'm skeptical of the science community's motives, shall we say. </p><p></p><p><em>Mark Quayle said:</em></p><p> <em>The faith that saves is not a chosen faith, but a faith that God gives. It is generated by God, and not the human. And no, it need not be something you even recognize as such. Many people are changed by God without at first even realizing that it has happened.</em></p><p></p><p>My dad once told me, "Some people just come to know the Lord."</p><p></p><p>I have heard several believers say that they just one day realized that they now believed, quite apart from any decision they made.</p><p></p><p>According to my mom, I made a decision for Christ when I five years old. I don't remember it, but I do remember one day deciding to tell everyone that I did not believe in Christ, (so that I could do whatever I wanted, deal with the consequences (punishments), but not have to deal with people telling me that I was not being Christ-like). But then, I suddenly realized that in fact I was <u>unable</u> to do so. I <u>could not</u> make myself do it, and not for fear of what people would think or do to me. </p><p></p><p>But two things are important in which I don't want you to misunderstand me. </p><p>1. You DO choose Christ, and submit yourself to him.</p><p>2. Christ says, "He that comes to me I will not reject."</p><p></p><p>So whether or not you understand what has to happen in order to believe, or whether you have worked through all the questions or not, or whether you hear this from one person and that from another, and all sorts of denials and contradictions, you can count on the fact that God will accept you, if you come to him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark Quayle, post: 77434071, member: 410020"] If they are sin, continuing in sin is evidence you do not belong to Christ. Those things cannot stop you from being forgiven, and if your sins are forgiven, you will enter heaven. "Accept Christ" is not a phrase the Bible uses. "Receive him" is. And there is a huge difference. The one implies that your salvation depends on the integrity of your choice. The other opens up a whole world of possibility, where it is GOD'S choice that saves. It is not by your will that you are saved, but by the will of God. You DO, however, willingly submit to him, will to obey, will to repent of sin, will to pursue Christ, etc. There are clear differences in the various religions. No other religion gives you the gospel of Christ. But that doesn't mean that all who claim Christianity, or claim to believe, or claim to be born again, are saved. [I]"The demons also believe —and tremble."[/I] I also do not believe in Evolution as such, but my reasons are not because it necessarily contradicts the Bible (it doesn't), but because of too many generalizations and inconsistencies and assumptions and revisions. I'm skeptical of the science community's motives, shall we say. [I]Mark Quayle said: The faith that saves is not a chosen faith, but a faith that God gives. It is generated by God, and not the human. And no, it need not be something you even recognize as such. Many people are changed by God without at first even realizing that it has happened.[/I] My dad once told me, "Some people just come to know the Lord." I have heard several believers say that they just one day realized that they now believed, quite apart from any decision they made. According to my mom, I made a decision for Christ when I five years old. I don't remember it, but I do remember one day deciding to tell everyone that I did not believe in Christ, (so that I could do whatever I wanted, deal with the consequences (punishments), but not have to deal with people telling me that I was not being Christ-like). But then, I suddenly realized that in fact I was [U]unable[/U] to do so. I [U]could not[/U] make myself do it, and not for fear of what people would think or do to me. But two things are important in which I don't want you to misunderstand me. 1. You DO choose Christ, and submit yourself to him. 2. Christ says, "He that comes to me I will not reject." So whether or not you understand what has to happen in order to believe, or whether you have worked through all the questions or not, or whether you hear this from one person and that from another, and all sorts of denials and contradictions, you can count on the fact that God will accept you, if you come to him. [/QUOTE]
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