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<blockquote data-quote="durangodawood" data-source="post: 77678862" data-attributes="member: 200668"><p>Im baffled how you can say my claim that "the past is fixed" is essentially semantics. It should have passed by unchallenged.</p><p></p><p>And you know, because Ive told you every way possible, that I believe change <em>going forward</em> is basic feature of reality.</p><p></p><p>If the man changed his attitude its because he had reasons to do so. It did not happen for "no reason" - which would be arbitrary or random.. Maybe it took Tuesdays experience to awaken some empathy in him? Maybe an accumulation of other experiences contributed? Maybe he read something in the Bible that prompted moral self examination? Maybe he simply paid attention to how hating others felt viscerally, and disliked it? Whatever caused his change, it was a set of things that accumulated<em> prior to </em>his making the change - and not just "because of nothing".</p><p></p><p>And so on down the line all the way back, one event experienced, feeling felt, thing learned, behavior contemplated..... leads to another in a causal chain. This included reasoning. We dont just embark on a path of reasoning about things<em> for</em> <em>no reason</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="durangodawood, post: 77678862, member: 200668"] Im baffled how you can say my claim that "the past is fixed" is essentially semantics. It should have passed by unchallenged. And you know, because Ive told you every way possible, that I believe change [I]going forward[/I] is basic feature of reality. If the man changed his attitude its because he had reasons to do so. It did not happen for "no reason" - which would be arbitrary or random.. Maybe it took Tuesdays experience to awaken some empathy in him? Maybe an accumulation of other experiences contributed? Maybe he read something in the Bible that prompted moral self examination? Maybe he simply paid attention to how hating others felt viscerally, and disliked it? Whatever caused his change, it was a set of things that accumulated[I] prior to [/I]his making the change - and not just "because of nothing". And so on down the line all the way back, one event experienced, feeling felt, thing learned, behavior contemplated..... leads to another in a causal chain. This included reasoning. We dont just embark on a path of reasoning about things[I] for[/I] [I]no reason[/I]. [/QUOTE]
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