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<blockquote data-quote="Bradskii" data-source="post: 77658920" data-attributes="member: 412388"><p>The 'correct' decision is just the one that you prefer. I think that what you are describing is simply digging a bit deeper into what the conditions are prompted by what you really might prefer. It's like an immediate decision to go to the pub versus going to the gym. Why not the pub? Have a couple of drinks, watch the footy, the pizza is on special. Or...hang on. I'm overweight. I need to exercise more. I should go to the gym. The long term benefits outweigh the short term ones.</p><p></p><p>You're still making a decision. And it's still based on input. But if the input changes (you've now considered long term as well as short term benefits) then your preference changes. And there was a reason it changed. Because you'd decided that you were overweight and that was something you'd not prefer. There was a reason why you didn't like being overweight. Conditions were such that it led to that decision. Obviously.</p><p></p><p>There's nowhere to extricate yourself from this. There's no gap where you can make decisions that aren't already based on something. That aren't determined. If you did then there's be no reason for doing so and it would be random, by definition. And there's definitely no free will there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bradskii, post: 77658920, member: 412388"] The 'correct' decision is just the one that you prefer. I think that what you are describing is simply digging a bit deeper into what the conditions are prompted by what you really might prefer. It's like an immediate decision to go to the pub versus going to the gym. Why not the pub? Have a couple of drinks, watch the footy, the pizza is on special. Or...hang on. I'm overweight. I need to exercise more. I should go to the gym. The long term benefits outweigh the short term ones. You're still making a decision. And it's still based on input. But if the input changes (you've now considered long term as well as short term benefits) then your preference changes. And there was a reason it changed. Because you'd decided that you were overweight and that was something you'd not prefer. There was a reason why you didn't like being overweight. Conditions were such that it led to that decision. Obviously. There's nowhere to extricate yourself from this. There's no gap where you can make decisions that aren't already based on something. That aren't determined. If you did then there's be no reason for doing so and it would be random, by definition. And there's definitely no free will there. [/QUOTE]
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