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<blockquote data-quote="Bradskii" data-source="post: 77656496" data-attributes="member: 412388"><p>You seem to be constantly mixing up your terms. I'm not rejecting the incompatibilist position. I'm supporting it. The position I'm rejecting is the <em>compatibilist</em> one. And the arguments can be summed up as me saying 'It's deterministic and here is the process (and I can go into as much detail as needed to indicate that fact)' and the opponent saying 'No, we still have free will.'</p><p></p><p>Bear in mind that the opponent's position is Compatibilism so she has already agreed on free will being compatible <em>in a deterministic world</em>. So how does free will opeate in such a world? Show me the process. I've been into the basement and done as many tests as you could possibly conceive looking for the dragon. I'm telling you it's not there. You have to show me that it is and how we can determine that fact.</p><p></p><p>The same response applies. Soft or weak determinism is compatibilism with a false nose and a wig trying to sneak in the back door of a deterministic world.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bradskii, post: 77656496, member: 412388"] You seem to be constantly mixing up your terms. I'm not rejecting the incompatibilist position. I'm supporting it. The position I'm rejecting is the [I]compatibilist[/I] one. And the arguments can be summed up as me saying 'It's deterministic and here is the process (and I can go into as much detail as needed to indicate that fact)' and the opponent saying 'No, we still have free will.' Bear in mind that the opponent's position is Compatibilism so she has already agreed on free will being compatible [I]in a deterministic world[/I]. So how does free will opeate in such a world? Show me the process. I've been into the basement and done as many tests as you could possibly conceive looking for the dragon. I'm telling you it's not there. You have to show me that it is and how we can determine that fact. The same response applies. Soft or weak determinism is compatibilism with a false nose and a wig trying to sneak in the back door of a deterministic world. [/QUOTE]
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