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Earth in hot water? Worries over sudden ocean warming spike
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<blockquote data-quote="eclipsenow" data-source="post: 77651143" data-attributes="member: 274355"><p>Ha ha - yes everything's Fermi paradox this week having just binged "3 Body Problem."</p><p></p><p>But other world's would have had to have the same kind of fossil fuel build up, the same crazy exponential growth in the use of fossil fuels, etc. Given life and the apparently long periods of time evolution takes - fossil fuels are sort of probable. At least coal. But oil requires very specific geologies to get trapped just so. I forget the exact terms - but the right 'spongy' rock and the right capstone layer to stop it leaking out and held at the right depth and temperature to cook it up for the right amount of time.</p><p></p><p>Also - even in this world - I wonder if in a hypothetical alternate history a more Lefty international regime that didn't go through the deceptive NeoLib years under Reagan and Thatcher might have started on this problem earlier.</p><p></p><p>I've had a shift in my thinking in the last few years. I used to despair - mainly because I thought the intermittency of renewables meant we had to go nuclear. I could not believe that nuclear power remains ILLEGAL in Australia when runaway climate change would be so much worse! I used to hate how people would just refer to wind and solar without understanding the maths of how much Overbuild they would require to get through winter weather. But now? Lazard 2023 says W&S are about 1/4 the cost of nuclear, so we CAN afford to Overbuild them. The bug has become the feature! Overbuild may allow some incredible bonuses to society in the fair weather seasons. Now W&S are growing so fast the market is going to BLITZ the poor and compromised Paris agreements. Move over COP - the market has tasted cheap W&S and likes it! The market could be deploying 2 to 3 times the Paris goals by 2030! <a href="https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2023/12/25/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-one-terawatt-of-solar-deployed-annually/" target="_blank">All I want for Christmas is one terawatt of solar deployed annually</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eclipsenow, post: 77651143, member: 274355"] Ha ha - yes everything's Fermi paradox this week having just binged "3 Body Problem." But other world's would have had to have the same kind of fossil fuel build up, the same crazy exponential growth in the use of fossil fuels, etc. Given life and the apparently long periods of time evolution takes - fossil fuels are sort of probable. At least coal. But oil requires very specific geologies to get trapped just so. I forget the exact terms - but the right 'spongy' rock and the right capstone layer to stop it leaking out and held at the right depth and temperature to cook it up for the right amount of time. Also - even in this world - I wonder if in a hypothetical alternate history a more Lefty international regime that didn't go through the deceptive NeoLib years under Reagan and Thatcher might have started on this problem earlier. I've had a shift in my thinking in the last few years. I used to despair - mainly because I thought the intermittency of renewables meant we had to go nuclear. I could not believe that nuclear power remains ILLEGAL in Australia when runaway climate change would be so much worse! I used to hate how people would just refer to wind and solar without understanding the maths of how much Overbuild they would require to get through winter weather. But now? Lazard 2023 says W&S are about 1/4 the cost of nuclear, so we CAN afford to Overbuild them. The bug has become the feature! Overbuild may allow some incredible bonuses to society in the fair weather seasons. Now W&S are growing so fast the market is going to BLITZ the poor and compromised Paris agreements. Move over COP - the market has tasted cheap W&S and likes it! The market could be deploying 2 to 3 times the Paris goals by 2030! [URL="https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2023/12/25/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-one-terawatt-of-solar-deployed-annually/"]All I want for Christmas is one terawatt of solar deployed annually[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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