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Earth in hot water? Worries over sudden ocean warming spike
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<blockquote data-quote="eleos1954" data-source="post: 77649366" data-attributes="member: 404063"><p>well ... according to science there has been warming and cooling going on for millions of years ... long before mankind ... to think mankind can control the earths weather globally on a large scale is ridiculous imo ... we can and do manipulate it some what (such as cloud seeding) but the manipulations are very minimal and very localized? Controlling the weather globally? (naw). Who's to not say we are in another "particular age" or between ages?</p><p></p><p>We do have a moral responsibility to take care of the earth and it's habitants ... such as minimizing pollution and we have taken some steps in that direction and should continue to do so ... such as better minimizing pollution from fossil fuels.</p><p></p><p>Carbon dioxide (CO2) is an important heat-trapping gas, also known as a greenhouse gas, that comes from the extraction and burning of fossil fuels (such as coal, oil, and natural gas), <u>from wildfires, and natural processes like <strong>volcanic eruptions</strong>.</u></p><p></p><p>Can we exceed the C02 levels that are emitted due to that which is emitted by natural processes?</p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: '-apple-system'">How much of C02 has been reduced by the things we have done thus far? </span></p><p></p><p>How much have we extended earth's time by doing what we have done so far?</p><p></p><p>Regarding time .... many scientific theories about it ... but it takes a physical mind </p><p></p><p>Time</p><p></p><p>Does time have a beginning and a end?</p><p></p><p>Any end to a process of change itself represents a process the end of which requires a further change-ending event, and so on. Hence <strong>there cannot be a beginning or end to time</strong> because there cannot be a first or last change, and <u>time is just the measure of change</u>. If there isn't a mind to experience change then it can't be measured because there isn't a mind to measure it. We observe time in accordance to planet earth ... outside of that represents what some of us call eternity ... science says our universe is continuously expanding (which is the same as eternity - no end) unless one accepts the theory of a closed universe.</p><p></p><p>The currently accepted view of physics is that <strong>time is as real as space</strong>. <u>Time is sometimes thought of </u>as 'just' the fourth dimension, but <u>it seems </u>as though it is somehow different from the three dimensions of space. For a start, <u>it appears</u> to flow in only one direction.</p><p></p><p>(The underlined above is what I call "scientific loose language") ... that is ... not actual definite knowns (facts) but possibilities ... not indisputable facts.</p><p></p><p>Just saying there are a lot of scientific ideas about it.</p><p></p><p>Time is a fundamental aspect of our lives, shaping the way we think and experience the world around us. <u><strong><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">Many scientists</span></strong></u> and philosophers argue that time is not a fixed and objective reality, but rather a subjective and human-made illusion. </p><p></p><p>I'm with the scientists that believe time is a human-made illusion ... you are not ... OK ... we pick our scientists. But don't make statements that we are science deniers .. because there are MANY scientists that believe it is a human-made illusion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eleos1954, post: 77649366, member: 404063"] well ... according to science there has been warming and cooling going on for millions of years ... long before mankind ... to think mankind can control the earths weather globally on a large scale is ridiculous imo ... we can and do manipulate it some what (such as cloud seeding) but the manipulations are very minimal and very localized? Controlling the weather globally? (naw). Who's to not say we are in another "particular age" or between ages? We do have a moral responsibility to take care of the earth and it's habitants ... such as minimizing pollution and we have taken some steps in that direction and should continue to do so ... such as better minimizing pollution from fossil fuels. Carbon dioxide (CO2) is an important heat-trapping gas, also known as a greenhouse gas, that comes from the extraction and burning of fossil fuels (such as coal, oil, and natural gas), [U]from wildfires, and natural processes like [B]volcanic eruptions[/B].[/U] Can we exceed the C02 levels that are emitted due to that which is emitted by natural processes? [FONT=-apple-system]How much of C02 has been reduced by the things we have done thus far? [/FONT] How much have we extended earth's time by doing what we have done so far? Regarding time .... many scientific theories about it ... but it takes a physical mind Time Does time have a beginning and a end? Any end to a process of change itself represents a process the end of which requires a further change-ending event, and so on. Hence [B]there cannot be a beginning or end to time[/B] because there cannot be a first or last change, and [U]time is just the measure of change[/U]. If there isn't a mind to experience change then it can't be measured because there isn't a mind to measure it. We observe time in accordance to planet earth ... outside of that represents what some of us call eternity ... science says our universe is continuously expanding (which is the same as eternity - no end) unless one accepts the theory of a closed universe. The currently accepted view of physics is that [B]time is as real as space[/B]. [U]Time is sometimes thought of [/U]as 'just' the fourth dimension, but [U]it seems [/U]as though it is somehow different from the three dimensions of space. For a start, [U]it appears[/U] to flow in only one direction. (The underlined above is what I call "scientific loose language") ... that is ... not actual definite knowns (facts) but possibilities ... not indisputable facts. Just saying there are a lot of scientific ideas about it. Time is a fundamental aspect of our lives, shaping the way we think and experience the world around us. [U][B][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Many scientists[/COLOR][/B][/U] and philosophers argue that time is not a fixed and objective reality, but rather a subjective and human-made illusion. I'm with the scientists that believe time is a human-made illusion ... you are not ... OK ... we pick our scientists. But don't make statements that we are science deniers .. because there are MANY scientists that believe it is a human-made illusion. [/QUOTE]
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