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Earth in hot water? Worries over sudden ocean warming spike
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<blockquote data-quote="SelfSim" data-source="post: 77648524" data-attributes="member: 354922"><p>Ok .. (understood) .. but that change makes no difference, unfortunately.</p><p></p><p>So the question becomes: <em>'<u>When</u> a tree falls in a forest and no one is there to hear it - does it really make a sound?'</em></p><p></p><p>The answer is:</p><p>Of course it does .. because what we mean by <em>a tree</em>, doing what we mean by <em>falls in a forest</em>, does what we mean by <em>make a sound</em>.</p><p>The mind dependence of all of that could not possibly be more obvious because its still a hypothetical tree, hypothetically falling in a hypothetical forest .. and so it hypothetically makes a sound.</p><p>Zero evidence of evidence of mind independence in any of it and plenty of evidence that the 'really' qualifier, is also mind dependent .. (ie: why wouldn't that be so?)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SelfSim, post: 77648524, member: 354922"] Ok .. (understood) .. but that change makes no difference, unfortunately. So the question becomes: [I]'[U]When[/U] a tree falls in a forest and no one is there to hear it - does it really make a sound?'[/I] The answer is: Of course it does .. because what we mean by [I]a tree[/I], doing what we mean by [I]falls in a forest[/I], does what we mean by [I]make a sound[/I]. The mind dependence of all of that could not possibly be more obvious because its still a hypothetical tree, hypothetically falling in a hypothetical forest .. and so it hypothetically makes a sound. Zero evidence of evidence of mind independence in any of it and plenty of evidence that the 'really' qualifier, is also mind dependent .. (ie: why wouldn't that be so?) [/QUOTE]
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