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<blockquote data-quote="partinobodycular" data-source="post: 77454330" data-attributes="member: 435281"><p>Actually, there's a good chance that they have just as much free will as you have. Meaning probably none. But let's set the photon aside for the moment, and proceed under the assumption that you do in fact have free will, and consequently the ability to act with conscious intent.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think that the laws of physics cause anything. They're descriptive, not prescriptive. It's what's driving those laws that matters. The question that we're concerned with here is whether or not that driving force has conscious intent. All indications are that it doesn't. Why would I say that? Because all examples of conscious intent that we know of reveal themselves as such by doing that which the laws of physics wouldn't have done on their own. </p><p></p><p>So setting aside the actions of us '<em>lesser conscious beings</em>', what phenomena can you point to that demonstrates reality doing something that the laws of physics says it shouldn't. If you can point me to one of these phenomenon then I'll consider it as potential evidence of conscious intent. Until then I'll have to proceed under the assumption that no such conscious intent exists.</p><p></p><p>If it does, it's done a very good job of concealing itself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="partinobodycular, post: 77454330, member: 435281"] Actually, there's a good chance that they have just as much free will as you have. Meaning probably none. But let's set the photon aside for the moment, and proceed under the assumption that you do in fact have free will, and consequently the ability to act with conscious intent. I don't think that the laws of physics cause anything. They're descriptive, not prescriptive. It's what's driving those laws that matters. The question that we're concerned with here is whether or not that driving force has conscious intent. All indications are that it doesn't. Why would I say that? Because all examples of conscious intent that we know of reveal themselves as such by doing that which the laws of physics wouldn't have done on their own. So setting aside the actions of us '[I]lesser conscious beings[/I]', what phenomena can you point to that demonstrates reality doing something that the laws of physics says it shouldn't. If you can point me to one of these phenomenon then I'll consider it as potential evidence of conscious intent. Until then I'll have to proceed under the assumption that no such conscious intent exists. If it does, it's done a very good job of concealing itself. [/QUOTE]
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