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Can a skeptic on the fence have a personal encounter with God?
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<blockquote data-quote="2PhiloVoid" data-source="post: 77448840" data-attributes="member: 167101"><p>Like the fact that a number of Christians who claim to have and manifest the charismata are actually making fraudulent claims about their "spiritual experiences of the miraculous."</p><p></p><p>Yes, I do. There are many examples of Christians who are of a specific "evidential" frame of mind who, if they find out that some aspects of the Christian faith have been misinterpreted and misapplied by certain churches, then they find themselves sliding off into unbelief and becoming ardent Ex-Christians. I've heard and read lots of from these sorts of folks; I've also talked to a number of them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Why is expecting miracles problematic? It is because faith in Christ is, and never was, a "miracle formula" to put into practice. Rather, faith is meant to be a living, day by day dependence upon the Lord, one in which we are asked to be patient even in tribulation, even to the end of our lives (however cliche and disappointing and extreme that may sound to some...).</p><p></p><p> ... as it is, this dependence has been usurped by a <s>materialist</s> empirical formula of "miraculous expectation" and bandied about by frauds.</p><p></p><p>So, do you want something better in your life here and now? Fine. Pray about it. Maybe the Lord will orchestrate some benefits in life on your behalf as you move each day into the future. But don't expect any outright nor instant, nor magnificent Charismatic style miracles to take place. That's just not what our lives are about.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="2PhiloVoid, post: 77448840, member: 167101"] Like the fact that a number of Christians who claim to have and manifest the charismata are actually making fraudulent claims about their "spiritual experiences of the miraculous." Yes, I do. There are many examples of Christians who are of a specific "evidential" frame of mind who, if they find out that some aspects of the Christian faith have been misinterpreted and misapplied by certain churches, then they find themselves sliding off into unbelief and becoming ardent Ex-Christians. I've heard and read lots of from these sorts of folks; I've also talked to a number of them. Why is expecting miracles problematic? It is because faith in Christ is, and never was, a "miracle formula" to put into practice. Rather, faith is meant to be a living, day by day dependence upon the Lord, one in which we are asked to be patient even in tribulation, even to the end of our lives (however cliche and disappointing and extreme that may sound to some...). ... as it is, this dependence has been usurped by a [S]materialist[/S] empirical formula of "miraculous expectation" and bandied about by frauds. So, do you want something better in your life here and now? Fine. Pray about it. Maybe the Lord will orchestrate some benefits in life on your behalf as you move each day into the future. But don't expect any outright nor instant, nor magnificent Charismatic style miracles to take place. That's just not what our lives are about. [/QUOTE]
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