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Can a skeptic on the fence have a personal encounter with God?
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<blockquote data-quote="2PhiloVoid" data-source="post: 77439074" data-attributes="member: 167101"><p>I'm saying this descriptively. Being that I'm suggesting to you an orientation of mind, there is room in it for different epistemic pathways in the journey. So, if you want to chase after the charismata, then do so. But I'd recommend to you to do so only by also keeping in mind there are some counterfactuals running against the grain of that pathway.</p><p></p><p>I'd rather point more decisively to what Christian experiences shouldn't be. They can be various ecclectic experiences, but the one thing they shouldn't be is a direct jump into an ecstatic high that then later drops you straight into the abyss of utter atheism and cynicism. </p><p></p><p>This is one reason why I take some of Pascal's arguments seriously, as I do the assessments of many other Christians and Christian Philosophers.</p><p></p><p>If you want to hear what Craig S. Keener has to say, that's fine by me. I'm not going to be the one to tell you to avoid him. I have two of his other books and I'm sure he has some interesting and helpful things to share. At the same time, I'd discourage you from placing all of your eggs into one epistemic basket of "miraculous expectation."</p><p></p><p></p><p>Being the existentialist that I am, I'd rather allow room for all fellow Trinitarian Christians to contribute to the overall definition. To this end, I would simply say that what the Living Waters of Christ would be, at the very least, is an ongoing personal inspiration in the Spirit to move forward in Christ each day of your life. Keeping with what I've said previously, I'm not going to tell you what to expect from the Holy Spirit. </p><p></p><p>What you end up finding will ultimately be between you and Him, not me and you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="2PhiloVoid, post: 77439074, member: 167101"] I'm saying this descriptively. Being that I'm suggesting to you an orientation of mind, there is room in it for different epistemic pathways in the journey. So, if you want to chase after the charismata, then do so. But I'd recommend to you to do so only by also keeping in mind there are some counterfactuals running against the grain of that pathway. I'd rather point more decisively to what Christian experiences shouldn't be. They can be various ecclectic experiences, but the one thing they shouldn't be is a direct jump into an ecstatic high that then later drops you straight into the abyss of utter atheism and cynicism. This is one reason why I take some of Pascal's arguments seriously, as I do the assessments of many other Christians and Christian Philosophers. If you want to hear what Craig S. Keener has to say, that's fine by me. I'm not going to be the one to tell you to avoid him. I have two of his other books and I'm sure he has some interesting and helpful things to share. At the same time, I'd discourage you from placing all of your eggs into one epistemic basket of "miraculous expectation." Being the existentialist that I am, I'd rather allow room for all fellow Trinitarian Christians to contribute to the overall definition. To this end, I would simply say that what the Living Waters of Christ would be, at the very least, is an ongoing personal inspiration in the Spirit to move forward in Christ each day of your life. Keeping with what I've said previously, I'm not going to tell you what to expect from the Holy Spirit. What you end up finding will ultimately be between you and Him, not me and you. [/QUOTE]
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