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<blockquote data-quote="Malleeboy" data-source="post: 77036049" data-attributes="member: 436627"><p>A Republic referendum needs a majority in a majority of states.</p><p>Australia has only passed 8 out of 44 referendums and has not passed one since 1977.</p><p>Of the 8 that have succeeded, 7 have been put forward during conservative (non labor) and 1 during Labor governments.</p><p>Only successful Labor one was 1946 to give aged and invalid pensions. (66 years ago)</p><p></p><p>A Republic is very unlikely to get up for some time, I think Canada or NZ will give up the monarchy before Australia does. </p><p></p><p>An opposed referenda almost always fails in Australia (I think all have failed, if the parliament puts out a formal no case, which is triggered if someone in parliament requests a no case; but I can't find the proof of that), and any Labor push would likely be opposed by the Coalition. It would have more of a chance, if moved by the Coalition (Liberals and Nationals parties form a grouping usually called the Coalition in Aus) but the Nationals (rural conservatives, think Texas Republicans) would not countenance that.</p><p></p><p>The other odd thing is that Australia is the only Commonwealth realm where each constitute part (ie state) is a monarchy in its own right.</p><p>Canadian provinces have Lt Gov, appointed by HM (His Majesty) on advice by Canadian PM not by Province premiers. NZ and other realms are unitary states. Australian state Governors are appointed directly by HM on advice by each state premier. If the Australian Commonwealth became a Republic each state would also have to remove its monarchy as well. A state could choose to maintain its monarchy (I'm looking at you Queensland) whilst the country was a republic. I think they would try to avoid that but constitutionally it could happen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Malleeboy, post: 77036049, member: 436627"] A Republic referendum needs a majority in a majority of states. Australia has only passed 8 out of 44 referendums and has not passed one since 1977. Of the 8 that have succeeded, 7 have been put forward during conservative (non labor) and 1 during Labor governments. Only successful Labor one was 1946 to give aged and invalid pensions. (66 years ago) A Republic is very unlikely to get up for some time, I think Canada or NZ will give up the monarchy before Australia does. An opposed referenda almost always fails in Australia (I think all have failed, if the parliament puts out a formal no case, which is triggered if someone in parliament requests a no case; but I can't find the proof of that), and any Labor push would likely be opposed by the Coalition. It would have more of a chance, if moved by the Coalition (Liberals and Nationals parties form a grouping usually called the Coalition in Aus) but the Nationals (rural conservatives, think Texas Republicans) would not countenance that. The other odd thing is that Australia is the only Commonwealth realm where each constitute part (ie state) is a monarchy in its own right. Canadian provinces have Lt Gov, appointed by HM (His Majesty) on advice by Canadian PM not by Province premiers. NZ and other realms are unitary states. Australian state Governors are appointed directly by HM on advice by each state premier. If the Australian Commonwealth became a Republic each state would also have to remove its monarchy as well. A state could choose to maintain its monarchy (I'm looking at you Queensland) whilst the country was a republic. I think they would try to avoid that but constitutionally it could happen. [/QUOTE]
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