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<blockquote data-quote="Bob Crowley" data-source="post: 76435136" data-attributes="member: 383390"><p>Monarchs today don't have to do the dirty work that politicians do. They're mainly window dressing these days; visible and traditional rallying points for their nation.</p><p></p><p>But when they had executive power of their own, way back in the good old days of the "divine right of kings", they could be as unethical and self-serving as any politician. King Henry VIII was an absolute mongrel in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>One of the first steps towards democracy was because the feudal lords in England didn't trust King John. The <em>Magna Carta</em> wasn't promulgated for the benefit of the ordinary people - they could go on being serfs as far as the barons were concerned, but it did allegedly guarantee some rights for the nobles and the church.</p><p></p><p>There are different presidential models other than the over-hyped (and too powerful) US executive type. France has a semi-presidential model (currently Emmanuel Macron, with whom our PM had a difference of opinion about a cancelled submarine contract). Slovenia's president is Borut Pahor, whose main role seems to be putting out poses on Instagram and other media outlets (he was a model in a previous life).</p><p></p><p>If we became an Australian Republic, we would need to be careful what form of Presidency we chose, how much power the President would have, how he would be chosen, how long his or her tenure would last, and how often.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bob Crowley, post: 76435136, member: 383390"] Monarchs today don't have to do the dirty work that politicians do. They're mainly window dressing these days; visible and traditional rallying points for their nation. But when they had executive power of their own, way back in the good old days of the "divine right of kings", they could be as unethical and self-serving as any politician. King Henry VIII was an absolute mongrel in my opinion. One of the first steps towards democracy was because the feudal lords in England didn't trust King John. The [I]Magna Carta[/I] wasn't promulgated for the benefit of the ordinary people - they could go on being serfs as far as the barons were concerned, but it did allegedly guarantee some rights for the nobles and the church. There are different presidential models other than the over-hyped (and too powerful) US executive type. France has a semi-presidential model (currently Emmanuel Macron, with whom our PM had a difference of opinion about a cancelled submarine contract). Slovenia's president is Borut Pahor, whose main role seems to be putting out poses on Instagram and other media outlets (he was a model in a previous life). If we became an Australian Republic, we would need to be careful what form of Presidency we chose, how much power the President would have, how he would be chosen, how long his or her tenure would last, and how often. [/QUOTE]
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