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Not sure what to say, as you are so comfortable breaking away from the text and just making stuff up - and my problem is I'm raising a false alarm in Koine Greek. OK! I just believe in the simple interpretation of the text - the Greek is just a helpful tool to do that.

Dealing with the Accusative τὸ first, It simply marks the object of the noun - in English it could simply be expressed as "The Mount Zion" but most translators would consider this to be redundant because no one thinks this is the spiritual Mount Zion except you, Oikonomia. It doesn't matter if...

Καὶ εἶδον καὶ ἰδοὺ τὸ Ἀρνίον ἑστὸς ἐπὶ τὸ ὄρος Σιών And I Looked and behold the Lamb was standing upon the Mount Zion The Greek is clear! The Verb ἑστὸς is a Perfect Participle Accusative meaning The Lamb "was standing" upon and because the Accusative singular...

Rev 14 shows both the return of Messiah in verse 1, and the rapture in Rev 14:14-16. What is more interesting, is contextually, this is happening after Rev 13, where we see the beast setting up his power system 3.5 years into the tribulation fulfilling Daniel 9, and we see messiah coming with...

Actually Marilyn, not true. "He who overcomes, and he who keeps My deeds until the end, TO HIM I WILL GIVE AUTHORITY OVER THE NATIONS; AND HE SHALL RULE THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON, AS THE VESSELS OF THE POTTER ARE BROKEN TO PIECES, as I also have received authority from My Father" Revelation 2:26...

Yes, they would be resurrected and glorified saints at that point, wouldn't they?

The passages of scripture that prophecy about Messiah ruling during the Millennial Kingdom are found in both the Old and New Testaments, but it is the Old Testament prophecies we are less familiar with so let's start there. Once again, we can distill these prophecies into several distinct...

The Millennial Kingdom has much to do with Israel Most of the church views Israel and the Temple as an abrogated system, a vestigial organ that is no longer relevant in the Age of Grace. We have perpetual discussions about how the Jews refuse to see the Isiah 53 suffering servant passage and yet...

No, you're not being blasphemous or disrespectful or anything else, Johansen. These are good honest questions about a topic we in the church never talk or preach about. Merky waters indeed! So to clarify what I'm saying that I believe in my first post on this topic of the Millennial Kingdom is...

Many believers do not have a passing thought about the Millennial Kingdom, so let's get started with some basics: We see the timeline of this 1000-year reign of Messiah in Revelation 20:4 - 6 "Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of...

Yes, I would say the Heb 9:11 & 24 are two of the more important verses on this topic

None of the Four Horsemen are evil - they are God's servants to do God's will - see: Zec 1:8-10, and 6:1-6 The church is not gone, see: Rev 6:9-11 - these martyred saints were to rest, "until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren who were to be killed even as they had been...

Does 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10 refer to the wrath of the 7 years of tribulation, the last 3.5 years of tribulation known as Jacob's trouble, or the second death? I believe it refers to the second death! Revelation 20:12, 13 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne...

If you mean 1Th 4:13-18, the passage does not define when the rapture happens. You are claiming that a passage on the rapture supports your pre-trib position but it doesn't

And when is the man of lawlessness revealed? In the middle of the tribulation!

Hi Dan - we are not disputing that there is a rapture . . . the question is, when does it happen? Neither one of the verses you have cited here, in the least way, suggests that the rapture happens before the tribulation.

Those who hold the pre-tribulation rapture position, usually site 1 Thessalonians 5:9 "For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ" But this verse cannot possibly refer to Christians suffering here on earth, because Christians have been...

For those interested in the topic of The Heavenly Tabernacle, I've put a mindmap together of many of the verses on the following sub-topics: - Messiah and the Earthly Temple - Ecclesia's destiny is the Tabernacle - Elements of Temple / Tabernacle in Revelation - 10 Celebrations of Worship in...

Glad you have it figured out, Dan.

The 144,000 may have been tasked with evangelizing the earth, but there is nothing in the text of Revelation that would suggest this. Certainly, there is no literary tie between the 144,000 and the multitudes of saints that came out of the Tribulation in Revelation 7:9, 10. Both of these groups...