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Rev 6:10 (ESV): They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who d In the verse above, those crying out are former unbelievers who came to Christ in the Trib. They then gave testimony of Jesus Christ, and...

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Luke 23:42-43 (ESV): And he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” 43 And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.” Jesus said: “… today you will be with me in paradise.” —— What does “today” mean? What does “in” mean? Are you saying...

You have no biblical proof to back up your reply. All you offer are verses that are out of context.

There are martyrs in Rev 20:4. They get there from Rev 12:17. Those are new converts in the Trib being killed for their testimony of Jesus Christ. You do not factor in the tremendous work of the 144k and the 2W. You also ignore the facts from Rev 6:10 and Rev 9:4-6. No believers enter the Trib...

Apostle Paul wrote 1 Th 4:16-17, rapture verses that perfectly fit Acts 1::11. Who breathed those words into him? Paul was inspired by God about the rapture before he wrote 1 Th 4 and 2 Th 2. 1 Th 1:10 was his first writing about the timing of the rapture. He used “delivers us” in the context...

1 Th 1:10 is about the timing of the rapture: before the Trib. God’s wrath (wars) begins in Rev 6:4, the 2nd seal. That fact perfectly complements the applicable meaning of “delivers us.” Delivers us" in 1 Th 1:10 means we are snatched away (raptured): "The second usage of deliverance refers to...

In Acts 1-11, only His disciples were present for the Ascension. You find words to quote and you ignore their context. Each context will invalidate your claims because the context will prove they don’t apply to the rapture. You just go by words that suit your fancy. You ignore the context...

I said pick one to disprove. None of those disprove what will happen with 1 Th 4:16-17. They fit perfectly with Acts 1:11. No other verses fit perfectly with Acts 1:11. In Acts 1:9-10, Jesus ascended in the view of believers, only (His disciples). Jesus ascended into heavenly clouds, into...

I see you’re new to these verses. I will not debate with you. God bless!

Paul wrote 1 Thessalonians in AD51. The rapture verses are 1 Th 4:16-17 (ESV): For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who are...

That’s fine. I debate folks who insist it isn’t true. God bless!

God’s wrath begins in the Trib no later than the 2nd seal. 1 Th 1:10 (NIV): and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come. “Delivers us" in 1 Th 1:10 means we are snatched away (raptured): "The second usage of deliverance...

In Rev 3:10, Jesus said, “ The commission is our assignment until death or rapture, whichever comes first. Rev 3:10 (ESV): Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth...

Acts 1:11 is about the next return of Jesus. In John 14:3 (NIV), Jesus says, “I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.” Jesus is in Heaven. John 14:3 is Jesus’ promise to return to exclusively rapture us to Heaven. He won’t be returning at that time for any...

John 14:3 (NIV): And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. Verse 3: I will come back and TAKE YOU to be with me ——- that fulfills 1 Th 4:16-17, after the last trump in 1 Th 4:16 and 1 Cor 15:52, and our being taken up...

Rev 12 is about Satan losing the war in Heaven and being thrown down to earth. He immediately attacks new converts that are giving testimony of Jesus Christ. That is where the second group of martyrs comes from for the GM. They end up in Rev 20:4. Rev 3:10 (ESV): I will keep you from the hour...

Jesus is perfect in every way, including His grammar. In Rev 3:10, “you” and “those” cannot relate to the same group. “You” was used to address folks in Jesus’ presence. In reference to “those who dwell on the earth,” he was referring to folks very distant. Jesus chose the correct words, and...

Jesus ascended 40 days into AD1. Rev was written around 95 to 96 AD. That’s when Paul received his vision. Rev 1:19 (ESV): Write therefore the things that you have seen, those that are and those that are to take place after this. ——- What is to take place after this? Rev 4:1 (ESV): After this...

Where does the Bible say seals 1 - 5 begin in AD1? You are ignoring all proof that “those who dwell on the earth” are unbelievers. Rev 3:10 therefore is about two groups: “You” is we believers, and “those” are unbelievers since they are “those who dwell on the earth.” We are therefore not on...