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You hear that guys? If you believe in science creating life (which it sort of does) God or not, then strrrrrraight to hell. God loves you unconditionally, but only under the condition that you believe. Which... sort of... defeats the... purpose. I'm not insulting the religion altogether, but a...

Adam and Eve. Talking snakes. Garden of Eden. Noah's ark, and the dude somehow getting two of every animal on a large boat some guy built himself. And that's perfectly understandable. I haven't read too much about him. I think that depends on how genuinely sorry he is. Didn't he order...

Because some of it just doesn't add up to me. My point is, there's a lot of variables in the world. The woman I'm talking to believes you have to follow the Bible down to the exact letter. Here's the problem, that book talks of historical events that could not have happened. Some people think...

You Christians man... you absolutely know how to keep things interesting. And no, that isn't an insult. Regardless of my atheism level, I always believed Jesus existed, was a good teacher, and suffered the way it was explained. I even love the guy, so yes, I believe in Jesus either way. I mean...

There are plenty of atheists out there who have done plenty of good for the world, but would still burn forever because "oop, you didn't believe in Christ!" I'd like to think God would handle that a bit better.

That's what I meant. I was not able to change my post due to how editing here works. That's still kind of awful. Which I'll get into in my response to the next quote. Overused or not, those people exist. Maybe not a lot of them, but they're out there. What about say... the Sentinelese? Those...

So someone was born in another part of the world and wasn't taught to follow Jesus is gonna suffer forever. Oh good, that's very fair and promising. If this is true, I'd sure hate to be someone living in a third-world country that hasn't heard that much about Jesus, and then suffers forever just...

I've been debating with someone who is one of the most diehard Christians I've ever known, and she believes (like nearly all Christians) that you must accept Christ and repent to enter heaven. Now, even as an atheist, I could sort of... almost... strangely accept that. However, she also believes...

If I'm not mistaken, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were all anonymous right? As in, those names are not their real names?

Yeah, it's just that I'm hearing and reading a lot of stories about NDEs where people are punished for their orientation, and that is horribly sickening. Also, weren't the Gospels of Christ written like 60 years after his death?

What I mean by "matter", is that hopefully these are things that do not stop you from entering heaven. The reason I bring this up, is that some people straight up believe "if you don't accept Christ, then straight to hell." without thinking any of this through. A woman that I'm talking to -...

Does orientation matter? Does chosen faith matter?

The Bible has a lot of scary verses. I'm talking to a girl right now through PMs on another forum, and she follows the Bible so hard that it hurts. She believes that those who don't accept Christ go straight to hell. Those of a different orientation? Straight to hell. Intimacy before marriage...

I don't. Some people believe that Jewish people will burn forever just because they don't accept Christ. That's awful. This God can't be loving and forgiving, then act like an angry child and punish people who think A and not B. It's stuff like this that makes people atheist to begin with.

Granted, getting friends wasn't a complicated issue, but the middle school I went to was one of those... how do I put this... one of those "faux-hood" schools. In other words, you know how people say they're "from da streets?" when they're really not? Yeah, it was like that. My parents moved to...

That's a pretty "black or white" way of putting it, and I don't think that's something that would get through to an agnostic or atheist. You also didn't answer what your proof of god was. It does not explain why someone can be alive for just 4 or 5 years and get cancer. It does not explain how...

As some of you know, I called myself a lamewad many, many times. And that even though I am 35, I have not had any intimate relations of any kind, was messed with in school, etc. As some of you also know, I visited the Sosuave forum, a high-testosterone mega-macho redpill forum (you will NEVER...