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The problem does not rear it's head till later in life and eight years becomes a very extensive difference between the two...

were just not connecting in the thought process... thanks for trying...

Repentance is seeing what God sees in us before salvation ... salvation is looking to God, after seeing repentance, and asking The Lord to save us with the absolute of no barter possibilities... No he was sorrowful as the world sorrows but not repentant to God or else he would have come to God...

I do not see as your position is no good to the very DNA ... yet Jesus uses them as they able to receive the kingdom of God?

Your saying a whole lot the text does not... my point is Jesus compared children with fallen nature to the very DNA you claim... but this... Mark 10:14 (KJV) [14] But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not...

Evidently not according to this: Jeremiah 19:5 (KJV) [5] They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:

Then How could Jesus say this? Mark 10:14 (KJV) [14] But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

It interesting you mentioned this as we have God's direct statement to His Will in this: 2 Peter 3:9 (KJV) [9] The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

As we differ on a great deal that you have written here ... and by your own promotion here (you are hear to teach) I don't see the need to engage with you... agreeing to disagree...

For me it is very simple... The gifts when displayed at the time of Christ and His Apostles directly following- no one could argue with the supernatural things being witnessed by their senses ... even Jesus' enemies could not write off the supernatural things being witnessed,,, in fact they had...

There is but one authority for us... The Scripture and they are sealed Revelation 22:18 (KJV) [18] For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: [19] And...

I think a very simple approach is the direction of Scripture- it is written communication Luke 4:1-14 ... the question then would be why would God lead us around His intent of or purpose of written Scripture? With how do we try the spirits if spirits is all that is being used? 2 Peter 1:19...

We individually choose .... what is convincing for me seem unconvincing to you... this is an impasse and we must agree to disagree! The 1John passage simplifies it - you either are or you are not... not- you are -you are not -you are -you are not etc.

I try to do as The Scripture tells me and that is : 2 Corinthians 10:5 (KJV) [5] Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; another way to say this is I let Scripture...

Scripture is clear we are not to add to or take away ... it is that simple. Now you may do as you like most do! It's not telling us to imagine ... imagine is to think and it's companion thought is here: 1 Corinthians 2:9 (KJV) [9] But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither...

this is funny because you say it again below 2 Corinthians 10:5 (KJV) [5] Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

God says to bring my mind under the control of Scripture you say otherwise ... it's probably no surprise but I'm going with God...

This is painfully obvious the reality itself... It is the last communication of God to man as it covers all the way to the eternal state and that is where God placed His seal of not adding or taking away. From the birth of Christ to the Eternal state is the NT and the seal is placed on the last...

Loved one do you wish to love God back?

We have come to an impasse as I see 1John 2:19 saying if they are they remain~ if they are not they will depart and as hermeneutic process demands this must be in consideration of all else that is related in Scripture! All Scripture must be considered in order to come to a Scriptural...