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Please take no offense, but your approach is like this picture when looking at salvation in the BIble. You immediately assume the Parable of the Tax Collector speaks of the entire topic of salvation when it doesn’t. It is only one aspect of salvation, my friend. You appear to believe the...

Chastening only makes sense if it is to correct a person to have right behavior. For example: A dog owner may chasten his dog for pooping on the carpet. The goal is to get the animal to stop pooping on the carpets by the chastening and illlicit a right behavior in the dog. The same is true...

The situation with the Tax Collector and the Pharisee is an example of how the Jews needed to accept the truth of how to be properly saved by God’s grace through faith (without works) in our Initial and Foundational Salvation. Believers are first saved by God’s grace and mercy. If a believer...

I believe you are. While I believe there are some verses or passages that are not as clear whereby it would leave room for different interpretations, I do not believe this is the case with the verses I posted to you. They read plainly. Again, I don’t think you are letting these verses speak...

The same Greek word δικαιόω (dikaioō) used for the English word "justified" used in the context of the faith in the Bible is also used for the English word "freed" In Romans 6:7. It says he that is dead is freed (justified) from sin. Yet, verse 8 states that IF we are dead with Christ, we...

Well, it is true that Philippians 2:12 says to work out your salvation, and not for your salvation. But the concept of working or doing good works as a part of our salvation is taught in many places in Scripture after we are initially saved by God’s grace through faith (Which is an initial or...

@Eternally Grateful You are not dealing with the bolded words in red in my list of verses In my post #345. You are denying the plain meaning of what these words are saying. You are not accepting them plainly like a child. Of course you know you cannot because it does not fit with your pet...

I just stated the Bible on verses that deal with salvation that goes beyond the gospel. The gospel calls us. This call of the gospel is…. God has chosen you to salvation through Sanctification of the Spirit and a belief of the truth (See: 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14). No. You don’t. The Bible...

I see what you mean. Very strange.

And you just went into repeating your make-believe conditioned belief instead of actually dealing with what those verses plainly say. Obviously, you don‘t believe in working out your salvation as the Bible says. You don’t believe in walking in the light In order for the blood of Jesus Christ to...

There is the past tense of salvation mentioned in Scripture that refers to when a person gets initially saved like Ephesians 2:8-9, and Titus 3:5. I mean,have you ever read the context of Ephesians 2:8-9? In Ephesians 2:1, it says you have been quickened. Quickened means to be "made alive"...

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So if there is no such thing as “Initial Salvation,” then you believe that a person was always saved? “Initial Salvation” is a point whereby you go from being lost as an unbeliever to then being saved as a believer. Are you telling me that you don’t believe there was ever a moment in time you...

At first, I could not find it, but I looked under the folder called, “College Courses” and it was under that folder. However, it only appears to be available only as audio files. The docs that are in that folder for this topic is a three page summary introduction or something and not the full...

This is an example of “Initial Salvation.” The context explains this. Paul makes a point in verses 9-12 about how Abraham was justified by a belief alone before he was circumcised and relates that to how we are first saved by faith in Jesus Christ. Nowhere does Paul advocate that this belief...

I also wanted to add this point, too.