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  1. Frisbee

    Where the wind blows...

    First and foremost a spiritual movement, or just "movement" given in the proper context, is just that... a movement, or a movement of the Holy Spirit. And it seems that wherever the real deal manifests itself, there are "fakes" and "phonies" that seem to follow as a natural course of action...
  2. Frisbee

    A really mean question...

    Mine is John 12:24. When you understand that Jesus was explaining why His death was necessary not just for the remission of sin (Matthew 26:28), but to empower those who believed... it's like the most important thing Jesus said in my personal opinion.
  3. Frisbee

    Any independent baptists in here?

    I go to a Calvary Chapel church also, but I did go to an independent baptist church not too long ago. Wonderful people and they are very strong on making God's word the main thing. My only complaint was that they were (they, doesn't mean everyone is though) KJV only. I really like the KJV and it...
  4. Frisbee

    Republicrats Anonymous

    I just started a meetup here in Washington State to get Democrats and Republicans together who wish to vote for a 3rd party candidate. The general concept goes like this... Washington is a mail in ballot state so we have the ability to fill out or voting card in the presence of another person...
  5. Frisbee

    McCain flip-flop? New position for Rep party on abortion?

    I'll tell you what happened... We started playing the game with Democrats because something had to be done about the onslaught of left wing politics being presented in the form of legislation. The Republican Party started taking positions on issues, and lost sight of the core of the Reagan...
  6. Frisbee

    Conviction of Sin

    The part that is broken is the willful part isn't it? Is it a sin to accidentally do things or to do them unaware that you've done anything wrong? Anyhow, like I said it isn't a perfect analogy. The reason I look at it like that is that folks, myself included, have a natural tendency to equate...
  7. Frisbee

    Conviction of Sin

    Think of sin less as something that brings shame and dishonor, and more like a naturally occurring malfunction. To be convicted of sin is to be made aware of the malfunctioning aspect of human nature, and growing in Christ as that which restores one to purity in the sense that you freed from the...
  8. Frisbee

    In a non-denominational church how does the Pastor tithe?

    I agree. Giving money is addition to the others. Maybe I wasn't clear about that.
  9. Frisbee

    In a non-denominational church how does the Pastor tithe?

    I'm starting to see a pattern here... Giving is good, as is a biblical church model and transparent leadership who makes the needs of the local area body of Christ known to the congregation. I like this conclusion but would add one thing myself: If we had the aforementioned model firing on...
  10. Frisbee

    In a non-denominational church how does the Pastor tithe?

    Dies3l that is what I'm talking about!!! I just wrote that in it's basic form to IisJustMe, and there you have it... Giving to God is God's people loving each other, helping each other and making it (the local area chruch) work! In your case wouldn't a job have been better than if they just...
  11. Frisbee

    In a non-denominational church how does the Pastor tithe?

    That is a good argument IisJustMe, but it is still taking things from the Old Covenant and applying it to the New Covenant. I agree that we are required to give more now, but money is not what is lacking in the body Christ, servants are. It goes back to an earlier discussion about what exactly...
  12. Frisbee

    In a non-denominational church how does the Pastor tithe?

    I don't believe I've ever heard anyone question whether or not God can be trusted with money, the question is typically centered on the organization that gets it. For example, would you consider it to be a "tithe" if you gave 10% of your income to a televangelist? Maybe you would, but most folks...
  13. Frisbee

    In a non-denominational church how does the Pastor tithe?

    It was around the 20 to 25 minute mark, sorry about that. Regarding the amounts of money, I wasn't talking about people publishing that. I'm talking about the church budget. What comes in, what goes out and what the current needs are. In all fairness I know that he has stuck his neck out and...
  14. Frisbee

    In a non-denominational church how does the Pastor tithe?

    That all sounds very reasonable to me Pastor. Our church doesn't worl like that and is why I'm asking the questions that I'm asking here. But thanks for your candor!!!
  15. Frisbee

    In a non-denominational church how does the Pastor tithe?

    A check to who? Isn't that paying yourself? I'm serious with the question. I have no issue with giving generously, but I do have an issue with folks who tell others to do so and then they themselves are actually not giving as they told others to give, themselves. Giving to the Lord means...
  16. Frisbee

    In a non-denominational church how does the Pastor tithe?

    JoNissi please don't elevate me to any status, there is only One who deserves that place and His name is Jesus! Also. my time in the Lighthouse is coming to an end as well. There are a lot politics going in our church and in order for me to deal with the issues and the Pastor I can't be in a...
  17. Frisbee

    In a non-denominational church how does the Pastor tithe?

    Tithe means tenth IisJustMe. It is literally the most legalistic trace of Judaism left in the church. But let me ask you this... You say people are subject to that particular law, then how do you select which you follow and which you put under grace and Christ? Another question is what was the...
  18. Frisbee

    In a non-denominational church how does the Pastor tithe?

    No more than I believe in keeping the Sabbath. I believe that we are to give everything we possibly can to God, and for most Americans that is way more than they are willing to give. The issue isn't just giving. The issue is giving more than just money. Giving itself is not a one dimensional...
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    In a non-denominational church how does the Pastor tithe?

    I love Pastor Chuck! My roommate was going to Calvary Chapel bible college and he listened to what he called "Chuck Tracks" all the time. I regards to having a committee, church board, anything along those lines... we only have a Pastor. That's kind of the problem. I really don't have a...