President Biden and Democrats have a plan for American energy: make it harder to produce and more expensive to purchase

Vambram said:

200 Ways the Biden Administration and Democrats Have Made it Harder to Produce Oil & Gas

President Biden and Democrats have a plan for American energy: make it harder to produce and more expensive to purchase.…

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President Biden and Democrats have a plan for American energy: make it harder to produce and more expensive to purchase. Since Mr. Biden took office, his administration and its allies have taken over 200 actions deliberately designed to make it harder to produce energy here in America. A list of those actions, which includes a few high-profile actions taken in states like New York and California, appears below. A PDF of the full list is available to download here.

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Yeah, my electric bill went up by a lot in WI, partially due to the Russia-Ukraine crisis, and the quick transition to renewables. For the Californians though, we can blame most of the rise of the electric bill to Gavin Newsom and 5 members of the California Public Utilities Commission. Glad I do not live in California. Beautiful state though, as I went on a trip there in September 2023 with my parents and visited Yosemite, Sequoia and Joshua Tree National Parks. In some places such as California, it is cheaper to use rooftop solar panels for a few decades compared to using grid electricity, though one guy had bad luck and had to pay $1000 in interest for his panels: Advanced Power and Energy Program (APEP), UC Irvine

Now, don't get me wrong, switching to (ethically sourced) renewables is great idea as we must try to be good stewards, but the rapid shift to EVs might put a strain on the power grid, meaning more power plants or renewable infrastructure has to be built: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/01/why-the-ev-boom-could-put-a-major-strain-on-our-power-grid.html

Direct quote from San Fran Chronicle: "California now holds the ignominious prize for the highest electricity rates in the nation, except Hawaii. How did we get into this predicament? Because the California Public Utilities Commission — the five-member agency appointed by Gov. Gavin Newsom that regulates the prices, service and reliability of private energy utilities — has failed to do its job."

Wisconsin: State regulators approve electric rate increases, reduce utility profits
California: https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion...lifornia-electric-bills-news-puc-19410274.php

Vambram said:

200 Ways the Biden Administration and Democrats Have Made it Harder to Produce Oil & Gas

President Biden and Democrats have a plan for American energy: make it harder to produce and more expensive to purchase.…

www.instituteforenergyresearch.org

President Biden and Democrats have a plan for American energy: make it harder to produce and more expensive to purchase. Since Mr. Biden took office, his administration and its allies have taken over 200 actions deliberately designed to make it harder to produce energy here in America. A list of those actions, which includes a few high-profile actions taken in states like New York and California, appears below. A PDF of the full list is available to download here.

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You used the Institute For Energy Research for your source of information? Seriously? That's like using the Flat Earth Society to get details on orbital mechanics.

Bradskii said:

You used the Institute For Energy Research for your source of information? Seriously? That's like using the Flat Earth Society to get details on orbital mechanics.

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Hey, thank you for telling about the Institute for Energy Research, but I do partially agree with @Vambram that electricity prices have surged in the past year, but most of that can be attributed to Russia, not much to Biden.

Russia increases our energy prices: Energy commodity prices in 2022 showed effects of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Is CNBC okay, or the San Francisco Chronicle? Those put the blame on Gavin Newsom, and not Biden on the high electricity prices in California. But, I am not a Californian, so I am not sure which source to go with.

AlexB23 said:

Hey, thank you for telling about the Institute for Energy Research, but I do partially agree with @Vambram that electricity prices have surged in the past year, but most of that can be attributed to Russia, not much to Biden.

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If electric rates were the actual issue, the OP could have quoted the government statistics about electric rates, instead the OP quotes a think tank funded by the fossil fuel industry about a whole lot of things that aren't electric rates.

Hans Blaster said:

If electric rates were the actual issue, the OP could have quoted the government statistics about electric rates, instead the OP quotes a think tank funded by the fossil fuel industry about a whole lot of things that aren't electric rates.

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Agreed. Direct quotes from the government, or a non-profit (that is not funded by the fossil fuel industry) would work better. Also, it would be nice if all think tanks disclosed where they got funding from. Hey, thank you for helping me on this.

As you can tell from most of my posts, I am for ethically sourced, affordable, and American-sourced green energy and reliable public transit, and am against Big Oil and against strip mining.

Hans Blaster said:

If electric rates were the actual issue, the OP could have quoted the government statistics about electric rates, instead the OP quotes a think tank funded by the fossil fuel industry about a whole lot of things that aren't electric rates.

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Here are the average rates over the last few decades: U.S. household electricity prices 2023 | Statista

Average for 2023 was just short of 16c/kWh. The price has been reasonably static at around 13c for quite a few years. Thanks to Putin it's risen slightly in 2022 and 2023.

I'll just note that the cost in my state in Australia is 22c, nearly a third higher than your current average. And why not toss in gas prices as well. Average per litre in the US is 90c. I was paying $1.45 a couple of weeks back.

That's why my roof is covered in solar panels and my car is a hybrid.

Vambram said:

200 Ways the Biden Administration and Democrats Have Made it Harder to Produce Oil & Gas

President Biden and Democrats have a plan for American energy: make it harder to produce and more expensive to purchase.…

www.instituteforenergyresearch.org

President Biden and Democrats have a plan for American energy: make it harder to produce and more expensive to purchase. Since Mr. Biden took office, his administration and its allies have taken over 200 actions deliberately designed to make it harder to produce energy here in America. A list of those actions, which includes a few high-profile actions taken in states like New York and California, appears below. A PDF of the full list is available to download here.

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It’s like whatever the Biden Adminstration does, is bad.
Not just unpopular, but really,really, bad.
Why? Because the “my team good your team evil “ blend of politics that we’ve “enjoyed” having, needs one final push before we crash.

So, will this policy-choice make puppies sick and kittens to cease being cute, too?

Bradskii said:

Here are the average rates over the last few decades: U.S. household electricity prices 2023 | Statista

Average for 2023 was just short of 16c/kWh. The price has been reasonably static at around 13c for quite a few years. Thanks to Putin it's risen slightly in 2022 and 2023.

I'll just note that the cost in my state in Australia is 22c, nearly a third higher than your current average. And why not toss in gas prices as well. Average per litre in the US is 90c. I was paying $1.45 a couple of weeks back.

That's why my roof is covered in solar panels and my car is a hybrid.

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Amen to that. Hybrids are the best. What model of hybrid do you use? My friend's mom drives a 2012 Prius (perfect condition), and my manager at work has a fancy 2019 Volvo XC60, an expensive high-tech Swedish SUV that only needs refueling every month or so. The Japanese make the best cars today, and made good anime in the 1980s-2000s also, cos Cowboy Bebop is the best.

Also, I wish my condo would install solar panels, but I will have to talk to the condo association about that (luckily my dad is on the board, as he got the place for me, and I pay rent to him). The flats across the parking lot have a few panels though.

Gas is cheap in the US. When I was in the Netherlands in June 2022 to visit my dad's overseas family, the gasoline price was $10.00 USD/gallon over there (~$2/L).

Vambram said:

Can you actually with real facts dispute any of the facts in the op article? Or, are you just going to attack the source of the message?

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If we thought the "facts" in the op article were from an honest broker, we would. They aren't.

As more and more solar panels are built, they get cheaper and cheaper. Volume production lowers prices.
So don't fear. The more quickly we use these clean energy technologies the more prices will fall.
He is not trying to make energy more expensive. He is courageous enough to promote short term pain for long term gain.

Bradskii said:

You used the Institute For Energy Research for your source of information? Seriously? That's like using the Flat Earth Society to get details on orbital mechanics.

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Yeah, but it says what the OP wants to hear so it's all good.

Vambram said:

Can you actually with real facts dispute any of the facts in the op article? Or, are you just going to attack the source of the message?

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If I was the slightest bit interested in involving myself in a monstrous Gish Gallop, I might. But I'm not. So I won't.

Vambram said:

Can you actually with real facts dispute any of the facts in the op article? Or, are you just going to attack the source of the message?

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The Biden Administration might be making it “more difficult” to extract petroleum and natural gas but we are producing more of both than ever before so his “war on oil” is a disastrous failure.

Vambram said:

Can you actually with real facts dispute any of the facts in the op article? Or, are you just going to attack the source of the message?

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That the cost of energy to the consumer is rising? Sure.
That some of the things on that list may have actually had an effect on domestic energy costs? Probably.
So what?

I mean, I guess Biden could offer all kinds of EO's and Tax breaks to the fossil fuel companies for a billion dollar bribe.

Vambram said:

Can you actually with real facts dispute any of the facts in the op article? Or, are you just going to attack the source of the message?

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Right off the bat, one thing jumps out at me: The title of the report is "200 Ways the Biden Administration and Democrats Have Made it Harder to Produce Oil & Gas," yet you and the author both conflate "oil & gas" with "American energy."

There is more to "American energy" than just oil and gas and the Biden administration, as well as most everybody else not on the far right want to make these non-carbon-based energy sources cheaper and easier to produce. Every person standing in the way of expanding solar and wind is just as guilty of making "American energy" "harder to produce and more expensive to purchase."

Vambram said:

Solar and wind energy can only, at best, be a supplementary energy source for electricity. The technology to allow wind and solar energy to become the primary source of energy for a large electric grid is still many decades away, in my opinion.

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This is true, seeings how we haven’t had a major policy shift to “renewables”, rather incremental “change” that aligns with our current energy-sector. Once the Big Players get on board, though, solar/wind will be more than “enough”.

Vambram said:

Although American gas and oil companies are producing near records amount of petroleum, the levels of regulation and taxes by the Biden administration has contributed very significantly to the costs of a barrel of American oil.

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We pay the cheapest prices for petroleum products (outside of the oil rich and the OPEC counties).
But walk us through it…what “regulations” and “taxes” has the Biden Administration added to the price of a barrel of WTI?