Republicans Score Massive Election Integrity Victory In Georgia

iluvatar5150 said:

That main site is for an AI-driven PR firm. I’m pretty sure that page you linked was generated by their tool after scraping the TPN site. It doesn’t actually say anything about Steffen’s bio.

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That is a good point.

There are several articles written under the Mark Steffen name on the trending politics website. It is entirely feasible that the Steffen name is a pseudonym.

I didn't read the articles because you paraphrase them so well.
I read what you write and think, gee, it seems as if he was using an unreliable source, believing it to be true.
And then I research the source.

ralliann said:

Good, something should be done. I hope voter id is made law. Low income could get it for free. Just so all can trust the results hopefully.

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Dream on. Mr. Trump and his supporters have already said they might not support the results of a fair election. They will only believe it's fair if Mr. Trump wins his get-out-of-jail-free card.

Fantine said:

Dream on.

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Ok..

Fantine said:

Mr. Trump and his supporters have already said they might not support the results of a fair election.

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So what?

Fantine said:

They will only believe it's fair if Mr. Trump wins his get-out-of-jail-free card.

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So what "they" say or believe. Nothing wrong with making elections more secure. Voter Id could be issued for free, to those unable to pay a small fee. Like a social security card, and drivers license. Lot's of simple things can be done to tighten up elections for everyone's benefit.

The extra scrutiny. The extra requirements. The reduced numbers of polling places. The fewer poll workers per expected voters.

They are not applied uniformly. It goes like this. Republicans pick a blue, blue area like Fulton County. They "invent' or "imagine" widespread voter fraud--and, considering how heavily scrutinized the 2020 election was, they have absolutely no evidence.

They take this "imagined" voter fraud and decide to make it extra, extra, extra hard for people in those areas to vote. They have to wait six hours? So what? They can't have water while standing outside for six hours? How dare they drink water on a line!

The people in the red counties have short lines, plenty of voter personnel, no extra scrutiny or hoops to jump through.

What they call 'voter security' is fueled by discrimination and prejudice---and the desire to cheat at all costs.

Fantine said:

The extra scrutiny. The extra requirements. The reduced numbers of polling places. The fewer poll workers per expected voters.

They are not applied uniformly. It goes like this. Republicans pick a blue, blue area like Fulton County. They "invent' or "imagine" widespread voter fraud--and, considering how heavily scrutinized the 2020 election was, they have absolutely no evidence.

They take this "imagined" voter fraud and decide to make it extra, extra, extra hard for people in those areas to vote. They have to wait six hours? So what? They can't have water while standing outside for six hours? How dare they drink water on a line!

The people in the red counties have short lines, plenty of voter personnel, no extra scrutiny or hoops to jump through.

What they call 'voter security' is fueled by discrimination and prejudice---and the desire to cheat at all costs.

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See, voter I. D. could go a long way to avoid all the above bickering. A few other things should be put in place as well, but things can be done to satisfy election integrity. A good thing.

ralliann said:

See, voter I. D. could go a long way to avoid all the above bickering. A few other things should be put in place as well, but things can be done to satisfy election integrity. A good thing.

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There is no integrity without access--and restricted access is cooking the books.
In large urban areas, polling places should be close to public transit. If there is one voting booth and clerk for every 50 voters in smaller towns, the same must be available in large cities. Early voting gives people with unusual work schedules to vote.

Fantine said:

There is no integrity without access--and restricted access is cooking the books.

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Voter id has nothing to do with access.

Fantine said:

In large urban areas, polling places should be close to public transit. If there is one voting booth and clerk for every 50 voters in smaller towns, the same must be available in large cities. Early voting gives people with unusual work schedules to vote.

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Has nothing to do with voter ID either.

Voters on Fulton County could have gold-plated IDs and still have to wait 6 hours.

Why? Because hypocritical vote suppressors don't want them to vote.

Voter reform must do three things:
Security
Fair access
Active encouragement to vote

Fantine said:

The extra scrutiny. The extra requirements. The reduced numbers of polling places. The fewer poll workers per expected voters.

They are not applied uniformly. It goes like this. Republicans pick a blue, blue area like Fulton County. They "invent' or "imagine" widespread voter fraud--and, considering how heavily scrutinized the 2020 election was, they have absolutely no evidence.

They take this "imagined" voter fraud and decide to make it extra, extra, extra hard for people in those areas to vote. They have to wait six hours? So what? They can't have water while standing outside for six hours? How dare they drink water on a line!

The people in the red counties have short lines, plenty of voter personnel, no extra scrutiny or hoops to jump through.

What they call 'voter security' is fueled by discrimination and prejudice---and the desire to cheat at all costs.

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Please, I see you are important here, but do not just ignore the truth. When more votes are cast than there are living residents, there is a real issue and even the DNC must not ignore this. I grew up a Democrat but belong to neither party now and try to remain Conservative, a type of person the current Socialist vent casts away as if we are garbage.

th1bill said:

Please, I see you are important here, but do not just ignore the truth. When more votes are cast than there are living residents, there is a real issue and even the DNC must not ignore this.

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This did not happen. I posted the numbers. This appears to be a bald-faced lie. Please, cite authoritative documents that show this to be the case or stop posting this lie.

Fantine said:

Voters on Fulton County could have gold-plated IDs and still have to wait 6 hours.

Why? Because hypocritical vote suppressors don't want them to vote.

Voter reform must do three things:
Security
Fair access
Active encouragement to vote

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Fantine said:

Voters on Fulton County could have gold-plated IDs and still have to wait 6 hours.

Why? Because hypocritical vote suppressors don't want them to vote.

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The why can be eliminated. Voter I.D. does not need to be difficult at all.

Fantine said:

Voter reform must do three things:
Security
Fair access
Active encouragement to vote

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It could and should be as easy as an ATM machine. Libraries, banks, public works facilities all over the place just like ATMS WITH A VALID CARD. immediatly recorded and counted. it could even EASILY produce a printout of your voting transaction. Even detecting a multiple used ID, or a fake ID immediately.

What a Utopian point of view. Problem is, the "integrity" commission's goal is to prevent traditionally liberal voters from voting--not make voting with ID easy.

Fantine said:

What a Utopian point of view. Problem is, the "integrity" commission's goal is to prevent traditionally liberal voters from voting--not make voting with ID easy.

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Utopian? There is no reason it cant be done. We use these machines for our money transactions, certainly we can use similar to vote. Geesh.

It can't be done in the Georgia because the party in power just wants to prevent voting by Democrats.

Fantine said:

It can't be done in the Georgia because the party in power just wants to prevent voting by Democrats.

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It can be done. Just like bank machines are all over the place. It would be easier to vote than mail boxes set up, As they would be in more locations, just like bank machines.

Ok, I got it wrong for not checking. Here is the issue:
The Georgia Election Board voted Tuesday to reprimand Fulton County for its conduct of the 2020 election and direct the appointment of an independent monitor to oversee this fall’s general election.


The Georgia Recorder reported that the 2-1 vote came after investigators from the Georgia secretary of state’s office confirmed the county double-scanned 3,075 ballots during a statewide recount of the 2020 presidential election.


There also was a dispute over 17,000 ballot images that are missing, according to a complaint.


Investigators concluded the errors in question would not have changed the overall result of the 2020 election in Georgia.


Democrat Joe Biden defeated then-President Donald Trump by 11,779 votes, or about 0.3 percent of the nearly 5 million ballots cast.


Biden carried Fulton County by approximately 243,000 votes, or 73 percent to 26 percent.


During the Election Board meeting, an investigator noted that an independent audit published in January 2021 and a Performance Review Board review, requested by the Georgia lawmakers and released in January 2023, found significant issues in Fulton County’s handling of ballots.


Georgia voter Joe Rossi alleged in a complaint reviewed by the board that the 2020 election was flawed, both in the machine count to certify the election and the hand recount done afterward.


At Tuesday’s meeting, board member Janice Johnston asked Charlene McGowan, general counsel for the Georgia secretary of state, about the more than 3,000 ballots that were double-scanned during the machine recount.


“We did partially substantiate that we believe that there are duplicate ballot images. Whether or not those were actually included in the tabulated results is inconclusive,” McGowan said.

Fantine said:

SMH. Adding a second questionable article from the same questionable source doesn't strengthen your thesis.

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That would be the opportunity for you to post an opposing viewpoint from a source that doesn't lean left or right.

Looking forward to it...

Valletta said:

The Georgia Election Board on Thursday agreed to a series of measures intended to provide oversight in Fulton County, home to notorious anti-Trump prosecutor Fani Willis

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Fani Willis isn't an anti-Trump prosecutor.
She just happens to be the prosecutor charging D Trump for crimes that he committed that she has evidence for.
She is simply doing her job.

Valletta said:

and the site of so many votes in 2024 that they outnumbered actual residents,

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Total nonsense. just propoganda.

th1bill said:

The Georgia Recorder reported that the 2-1 vote came after investigators from the Georgia secretary of state’s office confirmed the county double-scanned 3,075 ballots during a statewide recount of the 2020 presidential election.

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Double scanning is a standard process.
They process ballots in batches, if a problem arises during the scanning of the batch, they erase all those previously scanned and they start again.