Young, conservative families flee West Coast, tired of taxes, crime, and political oppression

Lol I/we did the opposite.

I actually know some people who went to Idaho. After Paradise burned down in 2018 apparently a sizable portion of the town's 30k strong population all resettled in Meridian, ID. My ex-wife and her husband and kids were burned out and I heard they moved to Caldwell, and her parents and siblings soon followed. There was a time where I was considering some red states, like Montana but I've just found that I don't like the way other states do things (outside of politics).

I've heard native Idahoans have gotten really hostile to migrants from California cause they're basically assuming that they're liberals and bringing the liberal disease with them.

I moved to the east coast for two years, lived in Virginia, Maryland and New York and I couldn't get back to California fast enough. And I'm a right-wing conservative. But California's more nuanced than people realize. All of the absurdity is kind of confined to the major cities but up here in the part of the state I'm in, we're not really touched as much by all the liberal politics. In fact, this congressional district I live in is rated as red as Tennessee. My town's a college town so unfortunately we have a growing number of crazy libs but overall things stay conservative.

Living on the east coast gives some perspective, IMO. The politics there are more sinister, here in CA the liberalism is a lot of smoke. There's some fire, but it's mostly smoke.

I used to live in Southern California, for a long time for- about 23 years.
It's a beautiful state, and I miss many things about it (the weather!!) and even the orderly freeways-compared to driving here.
I left California in 1990, moved to the upper Midwest to be closer to my Mom's side of the family and my siblings, and met my husband here and married, and have children and grandchildren here. I still have friends out there, and one of my good former friends and husband moved to Texas recently, along with their daughter and her husband and grandchildren. They had had it with California.( All conservative Republicans) Plus housing cheaper there, too.
Another friend moved to Idaho, mostly to be with family but was glad to get out of the big city LA. When I left in the early '90's politics weren't really an issue (George H. W. Bush was President, and George Duekmejien was Governor. But even then I felt then it was too big, too fast paced, too much crime then(freeway shootings and serial killers seemed more common)and had changed a lot since the 60's when we lived there as a child, especially Orange County. any area that grows like that will though.
I haven't been to California for 25 years because I have no one close there anymore, but I do miss it sometimes.
But I consider this to be my home here, small town Midwest, equal distance(a couple of hours) from two major large cities, if I want a city(I increasingly don't !)
Of course the winters are much harder to take here, and I'd like to be a snowbird someday, but I don't know if I'd choose California for that.

Gnarwhal said:

Lol I/we did the opposite.

I actually know some people who went to Idaho. After Paradise burned down in 2018 apparently a sizable portion of the town's 30k strong population all resettled in Meridian, ID. My ex-wife and her husband and kids were burned out and I heard they moved to Caldwell, and her parents and siblings soon followed. There was a time where I was considering some red states, like Montana but I've just found that I don't like the way other states do things (outside of politics).

I've heard native Idahoans have gotten really hostile to migrants from California cause they're basically assuming that they're liberals and bringing the liberal disease with them.

I moved to the east coast for two years, lived in Virginia, Maryland and New York and I couldn't get back to California fast enough. And I'm a right-wing conservative. But California's more nuanced than people realize. All of the absurdity is kind of confined to the major cities but up here in the part of the state I'm in, we're not really touched as much by all the liberal politics. In fact, this congressional district I live in is rated as red as Tennessee. My town's a college town so unfortunately we have a growing number of crazy libs but overall things stay conservative.

Living on the east coast gives some perspective, IMO. The politics there are more sinister, here in CA the liberalism is a lot of smoke. There's some fire, but it's mostly smoke.

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Gnarwhal said:

Lol I/we did the opposite.

I actually know some people who went to Idaho. After Paradise burned down in 2018 apparently a sizable portion of the town's 30k strong population all resettled in Meridian, ID. My ex-wife and her husband and kids were burned out and I heard they moved to Caldwell, and her parents and siblings soon followed. There was a time where I was considering some red states, like Montana but I've just found that I don't like the way other states do things (outside of politics).

I've heard native Idahoans have gotten really hostile to migrants from California cause they're basically assuming that they're liberals and bringing the liberal disease with them.

I moved to the east coast for two years, lived in Virginia, Maryland and New York and I couldn't get back to California fast enough. And I'm a right-wing conservative. But California's more nuanced than people realize. All of the absurdity is kind of confined to the major cities but up here in the part of the state I'm in, we're not really touched as much by all the liberal politics. In fact, this congressional district I live in is rated as red as Tennessee. My town's a college town so unfortunately we have a growing number of crazy libs but overall things stay conservative.

Living on the east coast gives some perspective, IMO. The politics there are more sinister, here in CA the liberalism is a lot of smoke. There's some fire, but it's mostly smoke.

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Yes my understanding is rural California is red with the liberalism only in the big cities.

Wolseley said:

Well, the article seemed to indicate that the refugees were more conservative than liberal. I've heard that the "liberal disease" is pretty prevalent amongst the Californians who have moved to Colorado and brought their woke progressive viewpoints with them; I have a friend who lives outside of Boulder, and he can't stand them. (But then, he has an arsenal of firearms that could equip a small country and he collects and restores classic pickup trucks for a hobby---the dislike for liberals on his part is not in the slightest bit surprising. )

My understanding is that anyplace north and east of Sacramento is pretty level-headed; the weirdos seems to populate San Diego, LA, Frisco, and their environs. If I recall correctly, the rest of the state wants to divorce themselves from the seacoast; that's what gave rise to the "New California" and "CalExit" movements.

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That's basically right. San Diego's surprisingly conservative, at least compared to other coastal areas, but generally speaking everywhere along the coast is liberal and almost everywhere inland except for Sacramento itself is conservative. That's owed in large part to all of the agriculture, especially in the central valley.

It is not just young conservatives. There are literally thousands of retired cops and first responders now in Idaho. It sure made Idaho home prices skyrocket for more than most states. Personally, I prefer more climate friendly states with a lower cost of living but Idaho especially the panhandle is not a bad choice.