Several diocese reported 30%, 40%, 50%, and even 70% more adult converts who entered the Church this Easter

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This is great news. I don't know about the year-over-year numbers but I know my parish had a good size group of converts this year similar to my group seven years ago. I'm glad to see that this is what's really happening when so many other sources just talk about decline and irrelevance.

 
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Yeah I posted about this after Easter. We are getting more converts all the time. :)
I think it is a ‘sign of the times’ where we see evidence of God bringing in those in need after the wedding invitations went out to those others who showed they were not interested. Even this troubled Catholic Church is still the place where the Kingdom subsists, and wise men and women through abundant grace still find it. I could see this trend continuing even as defections stay steady or increase. It’s kind of a sorting out. A Ratzingerian purification may be the way to put it.

When you go to adoration and instead of the two or three other people there you see the place absolutely full, then you know something is really up. May I live to see that day.
 
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I think it is a ‘sign of the times’ where we see evidence of God bringing in those in need after the wedding invitations went out to those others who showed they were not interested. Even this troubled Catholic Church is still the place where the Kingdom subsists, and wise men and women through abundant grace still find it. I could see this trend continuing even as defections stay steady or increase. It’s kind of a sorting out. A Ratzingerian purification may be the way to put it.

When you go to adoration and instead of the two or three other people there you see the place absolutely full, then you know something is really up. May I live to see that day.
I thought of Pope Benedict as well. I pray that people still accept the call and the Church is on the upswing in general.
 
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Yeah I posted about this after Easter. We are getting more converts all the time. :)
I got to poke fun at my wife cause she still gets bulletins in her email from her old parish on Long Island where we went for a while. They only had one convert this Easter, while ours here had dozens. I like to roast NY every chance I get lol
 
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I think it is a ‘sign of the times’ where we see evidence of God bringing in those in need after the wedding invitations went out to those others who showed they were not interested. Even this troubled Catholic Church is still the place where the Kingdom subsists, and wise men and women through abundant grace still find it. I could see this trend continuing even as defections stay steady or increase. It’s kind of a sorting out. A Ratzingerian purification may be the way to put it.

When you go to adoration and instead of the two or three other people there you see the place absolutely full, then you know something is really up. May I live to see that day.
Our church is never full during Adoration but a decent number of people go. They recently increased Adoration at my Church from one day a week to three, though Tuesdays it’s in the Church, and Mondays and Wednesdays it’s in the cry room. They might increase it again to five days a week in the future.
 
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Our church is never full during Adoration but a decent number of people go. They recently increased Adoration at my Church from one day a week to three, though Tuesdays it’s in the Church, and Mondays and Wednesdays it’s in the cry room. They might increase it again to five days a week in the future.
My old parish had 24/7/52 perpetual adoration. And then Covid hit and ended it. They got it going again though. My new parish had the same but it has only come back as Tuesday morning to Friday evening. They are trying to add Mondays.

When I'm traveling and I want to find a good parish to attend on the road I use Masstimes.org and search for those parishes that have perpetual adoration, or at least frequent adoration. They seem the best places for mass too.
 
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My old parish had 24/7/52 perpetual adoration. And then Covid hit and ended it. They got it going again though. My new parish had the same but it has only come back as Tuesday morning to Friday evening. They are trying to add Mondays.

When I'm traveling and I want to find a good parish to attend on the road I use Masstimes.org and search for those parishes that have perpetual adoration, or at least frequent adoration. They seem the best places for mass too.
That's kind of how we went about it, but COVID wasn't what killed ours, it was a change in pastor that just sort of took the wind out of it. We're up to 24 hours Monday-Friday, and I think that's where it's going to stay. I'm glad you guys are getting yours back, seems too often that once those things are gone they don't come back.
 
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This is great news. I don't know about the year-over-year numbers but I know my parish had a good size group of converts this year similar to my group seven years ago. I'm glad to see that this is what's really happening when so many other sources just talk about decline and irrelevance.

I am far more interested in knowing how many people have have left the Church, rather than moved from one diocese to another. The Church seems to reckon all on its books as Catholics, regardless of whether they have changed religion, or lapsed, or absented themselves in some other way. How many people on the books are - at least in profession - Catholics ? Fewer than the 1,378,000,000 claimed by the Church, one suspects. The Church can hardly spread the Faith, if a tidy proportion of its members, perhaps many millions, no longer professes that Faith.

One also wonders how many converts fall by the wayside, perhaps by going somewhere else. Does the Church even care about the interpretation & accuracy of these numbers - or is it more concerned with seeming impressive ?

In my diocese, the figures for converts were long ago merged with those for Baptisms. So it is impossible to know how many converts in a given year - if any ! - there may be. Since the Church in my country is steadily decreasing in membership, it looks very much as though the merging of figures is a way for the high heid yins in the hierarchy to "manage" the Church's decline. We have no seminaries left - so how the bishops think we are to have priests, God knows. So much for the glorious "renewal" & "New Evangelisation" two recent Popes talked so much about.
 
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This is great news. I don't know about the year-over-year numbers but I know my parish had a good size group of converts this year similar to my group seven years ago. I'm glad to see that this is what's really happening when so many other sources just talk about decline and irrelevance.

Which is lovely for (parts of) the USA. But it tells one nothing about how the Church is doing in any of the 190+ other countries in the world.

The non-stop focus on the USA alone in online fora - even in Catholic ones, which one would expect to be to be free of USA-centredness, because Catholicism is meant to be a Church universal in time & space - is wearisome beyond words.

Those figures reveal nothing about the morals, orthodoxy, orthopraxy, virtues or other qualities of those received into the Church. There is no gain at all in receiving thousands of semi-pagans & semi-heretics, for them, or for the Church. That may seem gloomy - but the present condition of the Church encourages gloom. There was quite enough brainless optimism 60 years ago, when the bishops failed spectacularly in reading "the signs of the times". Kowtowing to "modern man" gets the Church nowhere, fast.
 
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Which is lovely for (parts of) the USA. But it tells one nothing about how the Church is doing in any of the 190+ other countries in the world.

The non-stop focus on the USA alone in online fora - even in Catholic ones, which one would expect to be to be free of USA-centredness, because Catholicism is meant to be a Church universal in time & space - is wearisome beyond words.
CF in general is English language and American. Yes there is a smattering of Russian and even Chinese but English is the dominant language. So we do appeal to Australians and New Zealanders and Brits and Canadians and some Hong Kongers in the mix, but again it is predominantly American. That's just what CF is. And OBOB is sort of the same. SO you will get an American perspective here even though Michie works hard to provide a mix. The Church IS universal, but CF isn't. Maybe that's a failing, or maybe CF (and OBOB) just isn't responsible for being universal. Someone else might be responsible for that.
 
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