After son’s abuse, deacon is excommunicated for joining Anglican church

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Exactly what the Bishop wrote to him.

He was given an interview and was upset he was excommunicated and my daughter showed me the 'letter' from the Bishop and it comes off FROM that interview he was excommunicated [and the priest was laisized? or sent to jail etc] ---- because he called out the priest or so the interview made it seem.

The Bishop wrote it is not wise to leave the Eucharist after showing remorse for the sad occurrence... and such
The priest was convicted and is in prison where he belongs. He is not assigned currently but from everything I have seen he is still a priest. Maybe, just maybe, the bishop is in the middle of the process of removing the priest. But we haven't heard.

I think part of the problem was that a lot of people, laity, other priests, the bishop, did not believe the deacon's son but instead believed the offending priest. At least at first. An uphill battle for justice. I think that did a lot of damage. Having to sue the diocese to get them to admit that their priest abused the boy had to be hard for a deacon to do.
 
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I'm just saying the media snipped it apart to make the Bishop seem unjust excommunicating him and did not state it was because he joined another church.

People excommunicate themselves by doing that. However; any type of ordinated office is usually formally excommunicated.
 
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I'm just saying the media snipped it apart to make the Bishop seem unjust excommunicating him and did not state it was because he joined another church.

People excommunicate themselves by doing that. However; any type of ordinated office is usually formally excommunicated.
Yes, you ARE right. He is an apostate and thus excommunicated for his apostasy. Hmmm. Why? Because a priest buggered his child and the diocese took the priests side. There isn’t a lot of pastoral sensitivity in evidence from the bishop here. If there was then perhaps he wouldn’t have been repelled from the Catholic Church. So yup he is an excommunicated apostate. But he was pushed.
 
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Yes, you ARE right. He is an apostate and thus excommunicated for his apostasy. Hmmm. Why? Because a priest buggered his child and the diocese took the priests side. There isn’t a lot of pastoral sensitivity in evidence from the bishop here. If there was then perhaps he wouldn’t have been repelled from the Catholic Church. So yup he is an excommunicated apostate. But he was pushed.

He said ..."systemic failure in addressing and preventing such heinous acts, have left me disillusioned and unable to reconcile my commitment to the Church "

He did not disclose that they were taking the priests side.
I have searched for that anecdote from him. Maybe I am missing it.

He wants the acts 'prevented' but moving onto a different church will not resolve the fallen sins of these sick people.
Unfortunately the sickness is recorded as 1 in 4 children are attacked in such a horrible manner.

Running to another church where it is illicit sacraments, is only a disservice to himself and family.
Which is what the Bishop stated to him.

As sad, vile and disgusting this act is, it is not exclusive to the Church.
 
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He said ..."systemic failure in addressing and preventing such heinous acts, have left me disillusioned and unable to reconcile my commitment to the Church "

He did not disclose that they were taking the priests side.
I have searched for that anecdote from him. Maybe I am missing it.

He wants the acts 'prevented' but moving onto a different church will not resolve the fallen sins of these sick people.
Unfortunately the sickness is recorded as 1 in 4 children are attacked in such a horrible manner.

Running to another church where it is illicit sacraments, is only a disservice to himself and family.
Which is what the Bishop stated to him.

As sad, vile and disgusting this act is, it is not exclusive to the Church.
True, and the Anglicans and/or Episcopalians have had more than their share of abuse.

Our perceptions of abuse depend on what we hear about. We hear PLENTY about abuse in the Catholic Church. We hear almost nothing about those groups that are really good at hiding it. It would be a horror to quit the Catholic Church and then discover a bunch of skeletons in the closets of the new place.

So what should this deacon do? Of course he should come back to the Catholic Church. But will the bishop do anything to help that reconciliation? I hope so, because so far it seems a blame the victim situation. I hope this is a developing situation with a good outcome.
 
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True, and the Anglicans and/or Episcopalians have had more than their share of abuse.

Our perceptions of abuse depend on what we hear about. We hear PLENTY about abuse in the Catholic Church. We hear almost nothing about those groups that are really good at hiding it. It would be a horror to quit the Catholic Church and then discover a bunch of skeletons in the closets of the new place.

So what should this deacon do? Of course he should come back to the Catholic Church. But will the bishop do anything to help that reconciliation? I hope so, because so far it seems a blame the victim situation. I hope this is a developing situation with a good outcome.
The Bishop said the happening was bad. He was not happy about the priest.

The way to be back in the fold is to go to confession, if clergy, I am not certain but with the Bishop.
I am not certain if this is different for laity.
I think confession in general, as few laity are formally excommunicated.
 
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(OSV News) — A permanent deacon in the Diocese of Lafayette, Louisiana, whose then-teenage son was molested by the priest he once served alongside, is now excommunicated after leaving his ministry, because he formally left the Catholic Church, according to the recent decree written by his bishop.

“I’m very surprised — I assumed at some point that they would possibly laicize me, but excommunication … that thought never crossed my mind,” Deacon Scott Peyton, who was ordained in 2012 and had served until December 2023, told OSV News. He provided OSV News a digital copy of the March 13 letter he had received from Bishop J. Douglas Deshotel of Lafayette.

The document — printed on the bishop’s letterhead, signed by both Bishop Deshotel and the diocesan chancellor, and marked with the diocesan seal — acknowledged Deacon Peyton’s Dec. 4, 2023, email stating what the deacon called his intention to resign from the diaconate and leave the Catholic Church.


“The pain and suffering endured by the victims (of clergy sexual abuse), our family, and most importantly our son, coupled with what appears to be a systemic failure in addressing and preventing such heinous acts, have left me disillusioned and unable to reconcile my commitment to the Church with my conscience,” Deacon Peyton wrote.

Incurring automatic excommunication​


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Man, these are another set of gross church leaders that need to be ousted. The actions of these church leaders are abhorrent, despicable, and an affront to God's sacred plan for human sexuality. These perverted actions not only betray the trust of a vulnerable young boy but also tarnish the sanctity of the priesthood and the Church. Seems that Fr. Michael Guidry ignored 1 Corinthians 6:19-20, which says "Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies." He defiled a minor, and himself. I could rant on about how evil these church figures are, but I will let you guys read the article summary below.

For those who have little time, here is a summary of the article:

In an unprecedented move, Bishop J. Douglas Deshotel of the Diocese of Lafayette, Louisiana, has excommunicated Deacon Scott Peyton after the deacon formally left the Catholic Church following his teenage son's molestation by a priest. The incident occurred in 2015, and Father Michael Guidry, the perpetrator, was sentenced to seven years in prison in 2019.

Deacon Peyton, who had served as a deacon since his ordination in 2012, expressed his disillusionment with the Church's handling of the sexual abuse scandal and its failure to prevent such incidents. In a letter to Bishop Deshotel on December 4, 2023, Deacon Peyton announced his intention to resign from the diaconate and leave the Catholic Church.

Bishop Deshotel acknowledged Deacon Peyton's resignation in a March 13 letter, removing him from all ecclesiastical offices and declaring him "irregular for the exercise of the sacred order of the diaconate." The bishop also declared that Deacon Peyton had incurred the "latae sententiae" censure of excommunication, effective on the day he received the bishop's letter.

Unlike a "ferendae sententiae" canonical penalty, which is not binding until formally imposed on an offender, a "latae sententiae" excommunication is automatically incurred upon the commission of specific offenses, such as apostasy or heresy.

Deacon Peyton and his family had joined Trinity Anglican Church in Lafayette, Louisiana, on January 21, 2024. In a Facebook post, the deacon shared his family's decision to leave the Catholic Church and expressed gratitude for prayers from the diocese.

The bishop's response to Deacon Peyton's decision was initially pastoral, with Bishop Deshotel expressing sadness and offering assistance. However, the deacon had not received any further communication from the bishop until he received the March 13 decree.

The Peyton family's ordeal began in 2018 when their son, Oliver, revealed that he had been molested by Father Guidry at the rectory of St. Peter Catholic Church in Morrow, Louisiana. The diocese settled a civil lawsuit with the family in April 2021 and issued a formal apology.

Deacon Peyton expressed mixed feelings about leaving the Church, stating that he had wanted to give it a chance and continue serving as a deacon despite his son's trauma. However, he felt that the Church was not learning from past mistakes and was causing further harm to his family's faith.

Bishop Deshotel lamented the need to impose censures on Deacon Peyton but believed they were intended to be medicinal for both the person imposing them and those subjected to them. He urged Deacon Peyton to return to the Church, emphasizing that it was not perfect but a means of salvation entrusted by God.
 
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Man, these are another set of gross church leaders that need to be ousted. The actions of these church priests/deacons are abhorrent, despicable, and an affront to God's sacred plan for human sexuality. These perverted actions not only betray the trust of a vulnerable young boy but also tarnish the sanctity of the priesthood and the Church. Seems that Deacon Peyton ignored 1 Corinthians 6:19-20, which says "Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies." He defiled a minor, and himself. I could rant on about how evil these church figures are, but I will let you guys read the article summary below.
Just to be clear, it is not the excommunicated deacon who abused the boy but the imprisoned priest who molested the deacon’s son.
 
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Just to be clear, it is not the excommunicated deacon who abused the boy but the imprisoned priest who molested the deacon’s son.
Oops, sorry for the little error. Well, both the priest and deacon are messed up people. I made a mistake here when commenting about the article, partially cos I am tired of church figures hurting our young ones. The church needs to do something about this plague of evil leaders.

I edited my summary, to clarify the name of the priest, a perv by the name of Michael Guidry.
 
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Oops, sorry for the little error. Well, both the priest and deacon are messed up people. I made a mistake here when commenting about the article, partially cos I am tired of church figures hurting our young ones. The church needs to do something about this plague of evil leaders.

I edited my summary, to clarify the name of the priest, a perv by the name of Michael Guidry.
We’re all rip roaring tired of this perversion being allowed. Incensed even. Shepherds who feast on their flock is so wrong.
 
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We’re all rip roaring tired of this perversion being allowed. Incensed even. Shepherds who feast on their flock is so wrong.
Yeah, I am also. I have some not so nice things to say about these pervy priests, but we are on a Christian Forum (plus, I like keeping my words clean). I am glad that the Catholic church that I attend speaks out against these creeps.
 
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Yeah, I am also. I have some not so nice things to say about these pervy priests, but we are on a Christian Forum (plus, I like keeping my words clean). I am glad that the Catholic church that I attend speaks out against these creeps.
I think my Diocese does a decent or at least satisfactory job of not tolerating it either, but I don't know firsthand. I've seen it talked about on bulletins and/or its website but I don't know to what extent they really take care of the problem.
 
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And intellectually I agree with you. I get the pain too of having your son abused by the priest you work with. And of having to sue your bishop to get him to accept that the priest he assigned you to work with abused your son.
I definitely understand the emotional aspect of it and the sense of betrayal. I couldn't imagine how hard that would be to deal with but why not simply go to a different parish?
 
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