The Parables... what have we learned?

Ligurian

Cro-Magnon
Apr 21, 2021
3,589
537
America
✟22,244.00
Country
United States
Faith
Pagan
Marital Status
Private
The Parables... what have we learned?

"There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country. And when the time of the fruit drew near, He sent His servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. And the husbandmen took His servants, and beat one and killed another, and stoned another. Again, He sent other servants more than the first, and they did unto them likewise. But last of all He sent unto them His son, saying, They will reverence My son. But when the husbandmen saw the Son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill Him, and let us seize on His inheritance. And they caught Him, and cast [Him] out of the vineyard, and slew [Him].
When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
They say unto Him, "He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out [His] vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render Him the fruits in their seasons."
Jesus saith unto them, "Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing and it is marvellous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The Kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder."
--Matthew 21:37-45

(1) What was His inheritance? (2) Did they steal it?
-----------------------
Edit: (numbers) added
 
Last edited:

com7fy8

Well-Known Member
May 22, 2013
13,781
6,175
Massachusetts
✟590,516.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Jesus is the Son who was killed by the evil husbandmen. But Jesus rose from the dead to continue with His inheritance which is the kingdom of God and us who are God's children.

So, no Satan and his failed to steal the inheritance of Jesus.
 
Upvote 0

Ligurian

Cro-Magnon
Apr 21, 2021
3,589
537
America
✟22,244.00
Country
United States
Faith
Pagan
Marital Status
Private
Eternal life

No. They forfeited it and so He gives it to the Gentiles.

(1) Psalms 2:6-8 But I have been made king by Him on Sion His holy mountain, declaring the ordinance of the Lord: the Lord said to Me, Thou art My Son, to-day have I begotten thee. Ask of Me, and I will give Thee the heathen for Thine inheritance, and the ends of the earth for Thy possession. (Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto Me in Heaven and in Earth.)

(2) Only Jerusalem and Judaeans are being judged in that Parable.
This is practically the same thing:

Esaias Isaiah 5:1 My beloved had a vineyard on a high hill in a fertile place. 2 And I made a hedge round it, and dug a trench, and planted a choice vine, and built a tower in the midst of it, and dug a place for the wine-vat in it: and I waited for it to bring forth grapes, and it brought forth thorns. 3 And now, ye dwellers in Jerusalem, and every man of Juda, judge between Me and My vineyard. 4 What shall I do any more to My vineyard, that I have not done to it? Whereas I expected it to bring forth grapes, but it has brought forth thorns. 5 And now I will tell you what I will do to My vineyard: I will take away its hedge, and it shall be for a spoil; and I will pull down its walls, and it shall be left to be trodden down. 6 And I will forsake My vineyard; and it shall not be pruned, nor dug, and thorns shall come up upon it as on barren land; and I will command the clouds to rain no rain upon it. 7 For the vineyard of the Lord of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Juda His beloved plant: I expected it to bring forth judgment, and it brought forth iniquity; and not righteousness, but a cry.LXX

But the Galiean Disciples had already accepted the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven and were keeping it's Commandments.

Esaias Isaiah 42:6-7 6 I the Lord God have called Thee in righteousness, and will hold Thine hand, and will strengthen Thee: and I have given Thee for the Covenant of a race, for a Light of the nations: 7 to open the eyes of the blind, to bring the bound and them that sit in darkness out of bonds and the prison-house.LXX

Matthew 4:13-17 And leaving Nazareth, He came and dwelt in Capernaum, which is upon the sea coast, in the borders of Zabulon and Nephthalim: That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, the way of the sea beyond Jordan, Galilee of the nations: The people which sat in darkness saw great light, and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.
(Esaias Isaiah 9:1-2 O land of Zabulon, land of Nephthalim, and the rest inhabiting the sea-coast, and the land beyond Jordan, Galilee of the nations. 2 O people walking in darkness, behold a great light: ye that dwell in the region and shadow of death, a light shall shine upon you.
LXX)

Isaiah 65:15 says Judah in Jerusalem... not the divided-kingdom's Lost Tribes of the House of Israel. If you want to replace somebody, you'll need to make this distinction.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

Ligurian

Cro-Magnon
Apr 21, 2021
3,589
537
America
✟22,244.00
Country
United States
Faith
Pagan
Marital Status
Private
The Parables... what have we learned?

The Parables are the Mysteries of Kingdom of Heaven

Matthew 13:10 And the Disciples came, and said unto Him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven, but to them it is not given.

Matthew 22:2 The Kingdom of Heaven is like unto a certain King, which made a marriage for His son, 3 And sent forth His servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. 4 Again, He sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared My dinner: My oxen and fatlings killed, and all things [are] ready: come unto the marriage. 5 But they made light of [it], and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: 6 And the remnant took His servants, and entreated [them] spitefully, and slew [them]. 7 But when the King heard, He was wroth: and He sent forth His armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
8 Then saith He to His servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. 9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. 10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. 11 And when the King came in to see the guests, He saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: 12 And He saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. 13 Then said the King to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast [him] into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For many are called, but few chosen.


(1) Within what timeframe is the marriage?
 
Upvote 0

royal priest

debtor to grace
Nov 1, 2015
2,666
2,655
Northeast, USA
✟188,924.00
Country
United States
Faith
Protestant
Marital Status
Married
If you want to replace somebody, you'll need to make this distinction.

Romans 11:20-24
You will say then, “Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.” Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either. Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
 
Upvote 0

royal priest

debtor to grace
Nov 1, 2015
2,666
2,655
Northeast, USA
✟188,924.00
Country
United States
Faith
Protestant
Marital Status
Married
Within what timeframe is the marriage?
The marriage feast of the Lamb begins at the end of the age after the Judgement which included the Son's inspection of the professing Church: the Wedding guests of Matthew 22:1-14. The hypocrites shall be discovered and cast out as part of the Judgement. Matthew 7:21-23
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
 
Upvote 0

Ligurian

Cro-Magnon
Apr 21, 2021
3,589
537
America
✟22,244.00
Country
United States
Faith
Pagan
Marital Status
Private
(2) Only Jerusalem and Judaeans are being judged in that Parable.
But the Galiean Disciples had already accepted the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven and were keeping it's Commandments.

Esaias Isaiah 42:6-7 6 I the Lord God have called Thee in righteousness, and will hold Thine hand, and will strengthen Thee: and I have given Thee for the Covenant of a race, for a Light of the nations: 7 to open the eyes of the blind, to bring the bound and them that sit in darkness out of bonds and the prison-house.LXX

Matthew 4:13-17 And leaving Nazareth, He came and dwelt in Capernaum, which is upon the sea coast, in the borders of Zabulon and Nephthalim: That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, the way of the sea beyond Jordan, Galilee of the nations: The people which sat in darkness saw great light, and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.
(Esaias Isaiah 9:1-2 O land of Zabulon, land of Nephthalim, and the rest inhabiting the sea-coast, and the land beyond Jordan, Galilee of the nations. 2 O people walking in darkness, behold a great light: ye that dwell in the region and shadow of death, a light shall shine upon you.
LXX)

Isaiah 65:15 says Judah in Jerusalem... not the divided-kingdom's Lost Tribes of the House of Israel. If you want to replace somebody, you'll need to make this distinction.

Romans 11:20-24
You will say then, “Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.” Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith.
Romans 11:7 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear) unto this day.

Clearly, your verses don't apply to Jesus' Galilean Disciples.

Matthew 13:10-16 And the Disciples came, and said unto Him, Why speakest Thou unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven, but to them it is not given. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear and shall not understand, and seeing ye shall see and shall not perceive. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and [their] ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with [their] eyes, and hear with [their] ears, and should understand with [their] heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. But blessed [are] your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear.

This is the New Covenant, being ratified with the Galilean Disciples.

Matthew 26:26-28 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread and blessed and brake, and gave [it] to the Disciples, and said, Take, eat: this is My body. And He took the cup and gave thanks, and gave [it] to them, saying, Drink ye all of it: For this is My blood of the New Covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

This is the Galilean Disciples being made Apostles...

John 20:19-23 Then were the Disciples glad, when they saw the Lord. Then said Jesus to them again, Peace unto you: as Father hath sent Me, even so send I you. And when He had said this, He breathed on [them], and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Spirit: Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; whose soever ye retain, they are retained.

And this is what they taught:

Matthew 28:16-20 Then the Eleven Disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto Me in Heaven and in Earth. Go ye therefore and disciple all nations, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, unto the end of the world. Amen.
 
Upvote 0

royal priest

debtor to grace
Nov 1, 2015
2,666
2,655
Northeast, USA
✟188,924.00
Country
United States
Faith
Protestant
Marital Status
Married
Clearly, your verses don't apply to Jesus' Galilean Disciples.
Sure they do. Especially Romans 11:23
if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
 
Upvote 0

Ligurian

Cro-Magnon
Apr 21, 2021
3,589
537
America
✟22,244.00
Country
United States
Faith
Pagan
Marital Status
Private
The marriage feast of the Lamb begins at the end of the age after the Judgement which included the Son's inspection of the professing Church: the Wedding guests of Matthew 22:1-14. The hypocrites shall be discovered and cast out as part of the Judgement.

Matthew 7:21-23
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity.
anomia = from anomos; illegality, violation of law or wickedness:--iniquity, transgression of the law, unrighteousness.
anomos = from a (as a negative particle) and nomos (law):--without law, lawless, transgressor, unlawful, wicked.


7:24-25 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of Mine and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man which built his house upon the rock. And the rain descended and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat upon that house: and it fell not, for it was founded upon the rock.
7:26-27 And every one that heareth these sayings of Mine and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man which built his house upon the sand. And the rain descended and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat upon that house: and it fell, and great was the fall of it.


These ending verses go back to the beginning of this "Sermon on the Mount".
And this "Sermon on the Mount" is the Commandments of the Kingdom Law:

Matthew 5:19-20 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least Commandments and shall teach men so, he shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [that] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
 
  • Like
Reactions: royal priest
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Ligurian

Cro-Magnon
Apr 21, 2021
3,589
537
America
✟22,244.00
Country
United States
Faith
Pagan
Marital Status
Private
Romans 11:7 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear) unto this day.
--- Clearly, your verses don't apply to Jesus' Galilean Disciples.
Matthew 13:10-16 And the Disciples came, and said unto Him, Why speakest Thou unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven, but to them it is not given.

Sure they do. Especially Romans 11:23
if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

John 9:39-41 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind. And [some] of the Pharisees which were with Him heard these words, and said unto Him, Are we blind also? Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see: therefore your sin remaineth.

Matthew 15:12-14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
 
Last edited:
  • Agree
Reactions: royal priest
Upvote 0

Ligurian

Cro-Magnon
Apr 21, 2021
3,589
537
America
✟22,244.00
Country
United States
Faith
Pagan
Marital Status
Private
The Parables... what have we learned?

Matthew 22:2 The Kingdom of Heaven is like unto a certain King, which made a marriage for His son, 3 And sent forth His servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. 4 Again, He sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared My dinner: My oxen and fatlings killed, and all things [are] ready: come unto the marriage. 5 But they made light of [it], and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: 6 And the remnant took His servants, and entreated [them] spitefully, and slew [them]. 7 But when the King heard, He was wroth: and He sent forth His armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
8 Then saith He to His servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. 9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. 10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. 11 And when the King came in to see the guests, He saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: 12 And He saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. 13 Then said the King to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast [him] into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For many are called, but few chosen.


(2) Who are those murderers and what is the city being burned?
(3) What is the wedding garment?
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

Ligurian

Cro-Magnon
Apr 21, 2021
3,589
537
America
✟22,244.00
Country
United States
Faith
Pagan
Marital Status
Private
The Parables... what have we learned?

Matthew 13:36-43 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house; and His Disciples came unto Him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man, the field is the world, the good seed are the children of the Kingdom. But the tares are the children of the wicked [one], the enemy that sowed them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the world, and the reapers are the angels.
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth His angels and they shall gather out of His Kingdom all things that offend and them which do iniquity, and shall cast them into a furnace of fire; there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

(1) What is the good seed?
 
Upvote 0

Ligurian

Cro-Magnon
Apr 21, 2021
3,589
537
America
✟22,244.00
Country
United States
Faith
Pagan
Marital Status
Private
All of the parables in Matthew 13, which are about the Kingdom of Heaven, are about the same Gospel of the Kingdom, Matthew 4:12-23, Matthew 10:5-7, Matthew 24:14. And those verses are the fulfillment of Isaiah 52:3-7 and Isaiah 59:21. The Gospel of the Kingdom are the words the Father put in the Messiah's mouth in Deuteronomy 18:18-19, and confirmed in John 12:44-50.

When the parable of Matthew 13:3-23 finishes with the good seed bringing forth fruit, the parable of Matthew 13:24 plants them as seeds in the world, and Matthew 13:37-38 defines the good seed and the sower. This is the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven for the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel, and the object of the John 20:21-23 sent-Disciples (sent = apostle), which equals the mission of Matthew 10:5-7, and Matthew 28:18-20.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums