Biblical command to 'turn the other cheek' doesn't mean Christians should 'tolerate tyranny'

Hazelelponi said:

But they were born free, and are my brothers and sisters if they be in Christ standing beside me and my neighbors if not.

We were all born free, and if we be in Christ, continuing in the traditions of our founding fathers - becoming more and more beautiful by the year as we mature together in Christ.

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No, that is not true.

Hazelelponi said:

In Him we are greater than the lowest common denominator, far far far greater. And in Him and as Americans we are born free, and have become His slaves and special creation.

And not one of us will be slaves. We stand on our feet our conscious clear. And doing His Will we are.

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Being a slave to Christ is not the same as chattel slavery. It is absurd to compare the two.

Hazelelponi said:

But they were born free, and are my brothers and sisters if they be in Christ standing beside me and my neighbors if not.

We were all born free, and if we be in Christ, continuing in the traditions of our founding fathers - becoming more and more beautiful by the year as we mature together in Christ.

In Him we are greater than the lowest common denominator, far far far greater. And in Him and as Americans we are born free, and have become His slaves and special creation.

And not one of us will be slaves. We stand on our feet our conscious clear. And doing His Will we are.

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If slaves were born free then what was their struggle for freedom? An illusion? I dont think so. I think their un free condition was very real, and I would have felt like a real jerk telling any of them to "calm down, you are already free," as their children are sold off to some other plantation.

JustOneWay said:

Being a slave to Christ is not the same as chattel slavery. It is absurd to compare the two.

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It's not allowing Marxists to erase freedom of religion in this country so we can sit and watch our children be removed from our homes so the state can perform medical and psychological experiments on them either.

God says stay free. Right there in the Bible.

Hazelelponi said:

It's not allowing Marxists to erase freedom of religion in this country so we can sit and watch our children be removed from our homes so the state can perform medical and psychological experiments on them either.

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How many other Christian Americans have this dystopian future fantasy of doom? Now wonder so many Christians are afraid after falling for this imaginary future.

Hazelelponi said:

God says stay free. Right there in the Bible.

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Chapter and verse please.

JustOneWay said:

How many other Christian Americans have this dystopian future fantasy of doom? Now wonder so many Christians are afraid after falling for this imaginary future.

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They fear because they do not trust God.

Handmaid for Jesus said:

Chapter and verse please.

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Already cited.

Hazelelponi said:

Already cited.

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Where?

JustOneWay said:

How many other Christian Americans have this dystopian future fantasy of doom? Now wonder so many Christians are afraid after falling for this imaginary future.

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Since one state CPS has already sent one Christian parents child out of the country to Canada to live with a birth mother who wasn't even a part of the child's life because the Christian parents refuse to transition their child.. I'd say it's not imagination.

Plus other parents have actually and physically had to flee the country to keep CPS away from their kid and many many many similar horror stories at this point.

CPS is now in most states removing supposed trans kids from Christians homes, and calling it child abuse to raise kids normally in accordance with peoples religious faith.

Not to mention the thousands of children in America who have now been genetically mutilated and often sterilized.

The first child removal case is trying now to get accepted on the Supreme Courts Docket, their crime is being Catholic; the first case of many if this doesn't stop.

So yes, our rights are under very real attack in this country and so are our children. It's not smoke and mirrors.

Matt5 said:

It's atheists who want to impose their religion on everybody else.

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Nope it's atheists who no longer want to live under the yoke of Christian oppression.

Hazelelponi said:

God says stay free. Right there in the Bible.

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You have not cited chapter and verse.

Hazelelponi said:

So yes, our rights are under very real attack in this country. It's not smoke and mirrors.

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Yes, not smoke and mirrors. This is straight up fantasy and paranoia

Of course nothing you posted has a source for context, but at this point why do we need to prove anything when simply saying it is as good as real evidence.

Hazelelponi said:

Not to mention the thousands of children in America who have now been genetically mutilated and often sterilized.

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"Genetically mutilated"? Is there a mad scientist somewhere modifying children's genes to transform them into weird monsters?

I haven't heard of these thousands of cases.

Matt5 said:

It's atheists who want to impose their religion on everybody else.

Wait. You're in the UK. Shouldn't you at least live in America before you tell people to leave it?

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How can I impose something I do not have?

Vambram said:

Are you suggesting that in worse case scenarios, I should not defend my family and loved ones, or my community or my nation from violent attacks?

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I am suggesting that you honor the Word of our Lord Jesus Christ. Consult with the Holy Spirit to lead you into all the truth.

Vambram said:

So, when Christians say that we should stand up to different forms of tyranny in America, all of a sudden you think we are talking about an armed civil war? That is a ridiculous thing to suggest in my opinion.

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What Tyranny are you talkng about?

Handmaid for Jesus said:

I am suggesting that you honor the Word of our Lord Jesus Christ. Consult with the Holy Spirit to lead you into all the truth.

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I definitely do that.

I am absolutely listening to the voice of my Shepherd, the Lord Jesus Christ.

And the voice I listen to doesn't tell me any of this must be tolerated. It's a crime against all that is Holy.