Recent content by JulieB67

As usual, you continue to ignore all of my posts refuting those verses within the context you are taking them along with ignoring many other verses that provide context. Have a look back and you'll see many verses. I'm finished going around in circles. But as I said, we'll see....

Thankfully the Word itself invalidates it. We'll see....

Your argument is with Paul who wrote the "last" trump, not me. Last in the Greek literally means farthest out/final. So common sense tells us this is the 7th trump which is the last. It's an easy check with the Greek on the word for "last". So of course the 7th trump is the one that Paul is...

The Lord will return at the last trumpet at the Second Coming. Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for Him shall He appear the second time without sin, unto salvation." Acts 3:21 "Whom the heaven must receive unto the times of restitution...

Key words -last trumpet. All are changed at the last trumpet. So we can't have a "last trumpet" (farthest out in the Greek) and then expect the trumpet in Matthew 24 to be after the "last trumpet" We have to let the scriptures speak for themselves. We can't continue to pull verses out of...

The mystery is that " all are changed" at the last trump. Not that anyone is being whisked away. The verses do not state that at all. All are changed in an instant. Where does it describe a rapture in this verse? Air in the Greek as utilized in that verse is not the same Greek word for air that...

I'll state the same thing as I did to Jeffrey. The original subject of 1st Thes 4 starting with verse 13 is about what will happen with the loved ones that have passed away. It was not meant to teach about a pretrib rapture. And if you continue into chapter 5 after 4 you would see that the...

Exactly. So why do you continue to ignore the original subject of 1st Thes 4 starting with verse 13? That's just the thing, they cannot be used interchangeably. To say "coming of the Lord" can be used as a rapture you would then be stating the Lord "comes "3 times thus making it 3 advents. And...

I asked when you see the words "coming of the Lord" do you place those with a pretrib rapture or the Second Coming? Because there are many verses with those very words. And surely you realize those words can't mean both. Again, God is not the author of confusion. So once again, when you see...

I take it Jeffrey, as a Christian, you have read the bible in it's entirety? If so, when you see the words "coming of the Lord", do you see pretrib rapture or the Second Coming?

I know what last trumpet means. It means there's not another one after it. I know that Christ is describing his return and Paul is talking about what will happen with the dead and including them in Christ's return. Location is mentioned, we have to take the Bible as a whole. And it's never...

Again, you are completely ignoring the fact that the original subject is about the dead in Christ in 1st 4. It was not intended to teach about a pretrib rapture. Paul is just trying to comfort them. He includes them with what will happen when Christ returns. The dead in Christ raise "first"...

No it doesn't. It's just as I stated- he left on the mount of Olives and will touch down there again. That's a biblical fact. It states nothing that this is only for believers. That's not biblical. What is biblical is that when he does return every eye will see him. That is also a biblical fact...

Once again, you are taking verses and not knowing what is coming before or after, therefore losing context. You need to back up 2 verses and see that Christ will not be by himself. I Thessalonians 4:14 "For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus...

This verse is about deliverance from the wrath to come, not tribulation. You are inserting your own beliefs instead of letting the scriptures speak for themselves. This has always been your problem -context. We have to remember there were no chapters back then. Paul is continuing the same...