LDS Jesus said that we are not married in the resurrection.

[John Davidson]

I am interested in knowing how my LDS brothers and sisters answer the following passage of scripture.

Since LDS believe in eternal marriage.

Matthew 22:23-30
The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him, Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother. Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother: Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh. And last of all the woman died also. Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her. Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

 

[Ironhold]

All that stuff will be sorted before the Resurrection, so that's not an issue.

 

[John Davidson]

All that stuff will be sorted before the Resurrection, so that's not an issue.

Hi Ironhold,

That's not a very good answer.

I don't see how you can say it's not an issue.

Jesus clearly states that we won't be married in the resurrection.

 

[fatboys]

Hi Ironhold,

That's not a very good answer.

I don't see how you can say it's not an issue.

Jesus clearly states that we won't be married in the resurrection.

Marriage is an earthly ordinance. In order for you to be married for eternity it has to be performed before you die or people here who are doing family history can have the names submitted to have the work done for them by proxy. Jesus said that there are not going to be marriages performed after this life. There will be no marriages performed

 

[John Davidson]

Marriage is an earthly ordinance. In order for you to be married for eternity it has to be performed before you die or people here who are doing family history can have the names submitted to have the work done for them by proxy. Jesus said that there are not going to be marriages performed after this life. There will be no marriages performed

That's not what Jesus said.

He said that we won't be married in the resurrection but we will be like angels.

The question the Sadducees was asking concerned a woman who was already married.

Why would Jesus not have stated that she needed to be "sealed" if that was the case.

 

[fatboys]

That's not what Jesus said.

He said that we won't be married in the resurrection but we will be like angels.

The question the Sadducees was asking concerned a woman who was already married.

Why would Jesus not have stated that she needed to be "sealed" if that was the case.

You can take it two ways. We believe nwhen he said that there not going to be marriages that it means that there will not be marriages performed there. If he meant that no one would be husband and wife in the next life he would have said there are no husbands and wives in the next life. But that is just me.

 

[John Davidson]

You can take it two ways. We believe nwhen he said that there not going to be marriages that it means that there will not be marriages performed there. If he meant that no one would be husband and wife in the next life he would have said there are no husbands and wives in the next life. But that is just me.

Jesus said that people will not be married in the resurrection. They will be single like angels.

Read the passage.

Not to be rude but I'm seriously wondering if you have reading comprehension issues.

 

[fatboys]

Jesus said that people will not be married in the resurrection. They will be single like angels.

Read the passage.

Not to be rude but I'm seriously wondering if you have reading comprehension issues.

Well I don't think so. It is saying that ther are not going to be marriages or given in marriage in heaven. If they are not married they will be like the angels.

 

[John Davidson]

Well I don't think so. It is saying that ther are not going to be marriages or given in marriage in heaven. If they are not married they will be like the angels.

But the woman in question was married in this life.

Why wouldn't Jesus have mentioned that she needed to be "sealed".

 

[fatboys]

But the woman in question was married in this life.

Why wouldn't Jesus have mentioned that she needed to be "sealed".

Maybe he did. But at that time the jews were in apostasy and the reason the messiah came to them. They would not have understood sealings or temple work since that had lost much of it since the time of Solomon.

 

[John Davidson]

Maybe he did.

No. Jesus told them that people are not married in the resurrection.

 

[fatboys]

No. Jesus told them that people are not married in the resurrection.

I understand it differently

 

[Super14LDS]

Hi Ironhold,

That's not a very good answer.

I don't see how you can say it's not an issue.

Jesus clearly states that we won't be married in the resurrection.

Those that marry,
will do so BEFORE the resurrection.

.

 

[withwonderingawe]

John I'm reposting this from the other thread and then adding some;

Put let's look at Matt 19 first
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

Original marriage was for eternity, if God does something "it shall be for ever" Ecc 3

Now this line from Matt 22 is important
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

The Jews no longer had the power to preform these marriages, Jesus gave that power to bind on earth that which was in heaven to Peter in Matt 16.

Luke renders this;
34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

The words "of this world" are important because the Jews no longer had the power to seal, the Levitical priesthood was a worldly priesthood. This world is a Telestial world, not a Telestial Kingdom but a Telestial world. They are children of this world and will be resurrected into the Telestial Kingdom.


The point to Matt 22 is that they did have a belief in eternal marriage. But Jesus was saying “Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.”. The Jews no longer had the power to bind on earth that which is in heaven, hadn’t had it for over 500 years. The woman they were discussing would be as the angels or a servant of God. Jesus gives the power to bind on earth that which is pound in heaven to Peter. The very words till death do you part is putting asunder what God has just joined together.

There are several other passages which indicate that God meant for marriage to last forever.

1Cor 11
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

And 1Peter 3
“7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

 

[John Davidson]

I understand it differently

Then you aren't comprehending what is clearly stated.

 

[John Davidson]

Those that marry,
will do so BEFORE the resurrection.

.

But that isn't exactly what was stated.

Jesus said that those who are married in this life will not be married in the resurrection.

 

[John Davidson]

John I'm reposting this from the other thread and then adding some;

Put let's look at Matt 19 first
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

Original marriage was for eternity, if God does something "it shall be for ever" Ecc 3

Now this line from Matt 22 is important
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

The Jews no longer had the power to preform these marriages, Jesus gave that power to bind on earth that which was in heaven to Peter in Matt 16.

Luke renders this;
34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

The words "of this world" are important because the Jews no longer had the power to seal, the Levitical priesthood was a worldly priesthood. This world is a Telestial world, not a Telestial Kingdom but a Telestial world. They are children of this world and will be resurrected into the Telestial Kingdom.


The point to Matt 22 is that they did have a belief in eternal marriage. But Jesus was saying “Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.”. The Jews no longer had the power to bind on earth that which is in heaven, hadn’t had it for over 500 years. The woman they were discussing would be as the angels or a servant of God. Jesus gives the power to bind on earth that which is pound in heaven to Peter. The very words till death do you part is putting asunder what God has just joined together.

There are several other passages which indicate that God meant for marriage to last forever.

1Cor 11
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

And 1Peter 3
“7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Hi withwonderingawe. Thank you for your reply. Yours is the most concise answer I have received thus far in this thread but it still seems quite incomplete.

I would like to discuss this with you further.

Jesus seemed pretty clear in his statement that we will not be married in the resurrection.

 

[John Davidson]

The Jews no longer had the power to preform these marriages,

If that was the case why didn't Jesus mention that in his statement to the Sadducees?

Why didn't he admonish them that the sealing power needed to be restored in order for this woman to be married in the afterlife?

 

[John Davidson]

Jesus gave that power to bind on earth that which was in heaven to Peter in Matt 16.

This is the best answer I have received so far but I'm still not satisfied.

Further discussion is needed.

 

[John Davidson]

Convince me that eternal marriage is biblical and I will rejoin the LDS church.