Did Adam and eve's children sexually procreate through incest?

[xpower]

Did Adam and eve's children have sex with each other in order to reproduce?

 

[mmksparbud]

No other way to propagate the species. There were no genetic flaws to past down. The command to not marry close relatives was not given until Moses. Abraham was married to his 1/2 sister, Rachel was the daughter of his mother's brother, Rebekah was the daughter of Nahor, Abrhams brother.

 

[South Bound]

Did Adam and eve's children have sex with each other in order to reproduce?

Yes. Two important things to remember.

The first is that incest was not yet prohibited at that point.

The second is that, because Adam and Eve were created without defect and gene defects only entered into creation as a result of the Fall (Romans 5), their children and grandchildren would not have had the gene defects that would cause incest to result in birth defects.

 

[xpower]

No other way to propagate the species. There were no genetic flaws to past down. The command to not marry close relatives was not given until Moses. Abraham was married to his 1/2 sister, Rachel was the daughter of his mother's brother, Rebekah was the daughter of Nahor, Abrhams brother.

That is interesting.

 

[BobRyan]

Did Adam and eve's children have sex with each other in order to reproduce?

Yes.

In fact Eve is created from Adam's rib - she is a genetic twin to Adam.

The reason that did not create birth defects is that their DNA - their genome - had no errors in it at the start. So also their children had no defects - it took a few generations to get the mutations up to a level where family marriages were no longer viable.

 

[SkyWriting]

Did Adam and eve's children have sex with each other in order to reproduce?

To our knowledge, yes. God made sure things went smoothly though.
Even in the event that DNA was not perfect, God could have influenced
the situation, or more likely, had it all perfectly planned before time began.

 

[Steve Petersen]

If you are a wooden headed biblical literalist, then yes; it was incest.

Next come the creative arguments to get God off the hook for allowing something (incest) He made necessary in the first place.

 

[mmksparbud]

If you are a wooden headed biblical literalist, then yes; it was incest.

Next come the creative arguments to get God off the hook for allowing something (incest) He made necessary in the first place.

Are you saying that this is some sort of spiritual allegory?

Gen 20:12 And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
Gen_22:23 And Bethuel begat Rebekah: these eight Milcah did bear to Nahor, Abraham's brother.
Gen_24:15 And it came to pass, before he had done speaking, that, behold, Rebekah came out, who was born to Bethuel, son of Milcah, the wife of Nahor, Abraham's brother, with her pitcher upon her shoulder.
Gen_29:10 And it came to pass, when Jacob saw Rachel the daughter of Laban his mother's brother, and the sheep of Laban his mother's brother, that Jacob went near, and rolled the stone from the well's mouth, and watered the flock of Laban his mother's brother.
Gen_29:12 And Jacob told Rachel that he was her father's brother, and that he was Rebekah's son: and she ran and told her father.

God does not need to be gotten "off the hook"---the command to not marry close relatives came at the time of Moses, by then genetic flaws made that command needed, and the earth had been replenished enough after the flood. God had also permitted multiple wives---in the new testament, that was also done away with.

 

[Steve Petersen]

Are you saying that this is some sort of spiritual allegory?

Gen 20:12 And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
Gen_22:23 And Bethuel begat Rebekah: these eight Milcah did bear to Nahor, Abraham's brother.
Gen_24:15 And it came to pass, before he had done speaking, that, behold, Rebekah came out, who was born to Bethuel, son of Milcah, the wife of Nahor, Abraham's brother, with her pitcher upon her shoulder.
Gen_29:10 And it came to pass, when Jacob saw Rachel the daughter of Laban his mother's brother, and the sheep of Laban his mother's brother, that Jacob went near, and rolled the stone from the well's mouth, and watered the flock of Laban his mother's brother.
Gen_29:12 And Jacob told Rachel that he was her father's brother, and that he was Rebekah's son: and she ran and told her father.

God does not need to be gotten "off the hook"---the command to not marry close relatives came at the time of Moses, by then genetic flaws made that command needed, and the earth had been replenished enough after the flood. God had also permitted multiple wives---in the new testament, that was also done away with.

We're not talking about multiple wives. We are talking about incest. You are saying that it was OK with God. Does His morality change?

 

[mmksparbud]

Are you saying the bible is lying?? That Abraham was not married to his sister? That Rachel and Rebekah were not married to their relatives?? God blessed Abrham snd Sarah--brother snd sister. The father of the Jewish race and through whom Jesus would come. Are you saying this did not happen?? Are you ssying that God did not through Moses say to not marry close relatives? It was no longer permitted as it was no longer needed and would be now passing on genetic flaws. His morality does not change----ours has. Fom the beginning, God did not intend divorce, but it was allowed, as mentioned, multiple wived were allowed, then they weren't. God leads. Are you one of those that think God made other people that He didn't want anyone to know about and hid it from the bible writers and that is who Cain and Able married???

 

[Steve Petersen]

Are you saying the bible is lying?? That Abraham was not married to his sister? That Rachel and Rebekah were not married to their relatives?? God blessed Abrham snd Sarah--brother snd sister. The father of the Jewish race and through whom Jesus would come. Are you saying this did not happen?? Are you ssying that God did not through Moses say to not marry close relatives? It was no longer permitted as it was no longer needed and would be now passing on genetic flaws. His morality does not change----ours has. Fom the beginning, God did not intend divorce, but it was allowed, as mentioned, multiple wived were allowed, then they weren't. God leads. Are you one of those that think God made other people that He didn't want anyone to know about and hid it from the bible writers and that is who Cain and Able married???

This thread is about Adam and Eve's children marrying. Literalist interpretation of Genesis creates a quandary in which they are forced to marry siblings and commit incest. Your solution is to say that God's moral laws changed. Hoist on your own petard.

 

[mmksparbud]

This thread is about Adam and Eve's children marrying. Literalist interpretation of Genesis creates a quandary in which they are forced to marry siblings and commit incest. Your solution is to say that God's moral laws changed. Hoist on your own petard.

Yes, and that is what was answered biblically----
There is no quandary--except in your own mind. So tell me---what is it you think happened? Who did they have sex with??

 

[Steve Petersen]

Yes, and that is what was answered biblically----
There is no quandary--except in your own mind. So tell me---what is it you think happened? Who did they have sex with??

IMO, this is all legendary. Humans evolved.

Adam is an archetype of prehistoric man. His name can mean 'red or ruddy.' Anthropologist and archaeologists have noted that for about 20,000 years before the neolithic revolution, humans across Europe and the Near East painted the bodies of their dead with red ochre pigment before burying them in the ground.

 

[DennisTate]

Did Adam and eve's children have sex with each other in order to reproduce?

Yes!

There are ancient traditions that Cain had an exceptionally beautiful twin sister named Luluwa and Abel had a less beautiful twin sister named Aklia.......

This was another reason as to why Cain decided to kill his little brother.......

 

[BobRyan]

IMO, this is all legendary. Human evolved.

Adam is an archetype of prehistoric man. His name can mean 'red or ruddy.' Anthropologist and archaeologists have noted that for about 20,000 years before the neolithic revolution, humans across Europe and the Near East painted the bodies of their dead with red ochre pigment before burying them in the ground.

Ok, interesting story -- but what about those who believe the actual Bible?

 

[mmksparbud]

That's what I thought you would be saying---by "non-denominational"--do you really mean "None"-denomination?

In Hebrew, Adam means human

Mechanical Translation

Genesis 2:19
and Yhwh the Elohiym molded from the ground all the living ones of the field, and all the flyers of the skies, and he brought to the human to see what he will call out to him and all the living beings which the human will call out to him, that is his title,

Gen_2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
אדם
a-dam
(masc.) HUMAN: Of, relating to, or characteristic of man. The first man. All of mankind as the descendants of the first man. Strong's #: 120
http://www.mechanical-translation.org/mt/lexicon_dalet.html#786

So it is basically useless to have a discussion on the bible with you as you do not believe in it.---Thanks for sharing.

 

[Steve Petersen]

Ok, interesting story -- but what about those who believe the actual Bible?

Then you have to figure out why incest was OK at one time but not later on. Of course the Bible doesn't say why, so you get to make it up.

 

[Steve Petersen]

That's what I thought you would be saying---by "non-denominational"--do you really mean "None"-denomination?

In Hebrew, Adam means human

Mechanical Translation

Genesis 2:19
and Yhwh the Elohiym molded from the ground all the living ones of the field, and all the flyers of the skies, and he brought to the human to see what he will call out to him and all the living beings which the human will call out to him, that is his title,

Gen_2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
אדם
a-dam
(masc.) HUMAN: Of, relating to, or characteristic of man. The first man. All of mankind as the descendants of the first man. Strong's #: 120
http://www.mechanical-translation.org/mt/lexicon_dalet.html#786

So it is basically useless to have a discussion on the bible with you as you do not believe in it.---Thanks for sharing.

If you look up Adam in Gesenius, it is clear that the name is derived from the word for 'red' or 'blood' (Heb. dam).

 

[mmksparbud]

You were given what the Hebrew translation of the word Adam means. And the link to it. That is what it was written in. But since it's all a made up story, it doesn't matter to you what the actual translation means, does it? And what it says is of no importance to you anyway. Much less what is in the mind of a God you don't believe in.

 

[Steve Petersen]

You were given what the Hebrew translation of the word Adam means. And the link to it. That is what it was written in. But since it's all a made up story, it doesn't matter to you what the actual translation means, does it? And what it says is of no importance to you anyway. Much less what is in the mind of a God you don't believe in.

http://www.tyndalearchive.com//TABS/Gesenius/index.htm