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<blockquote data-quote="philadelphos" data-source="post: 76611677" data-attributes="member: 420433"><p><em>Avoidance</em>, I'm noticing is a common theme. In Scandi culture there seems to be desire for 'normality', with "normal" being the status quo: normal person, normal marriage, normal family, normal job, and somehow it all adds up to being a good country. Except that illusion also entails a pack of lies or hypocrisies, in denial of reality and life's extremities.</p><p></p><p>Please correct me if mistake, but I feel that day to day communication is an indicator for deeper matters, spiritual life, complex social issues. Perhaps there are more 'passive' but from the pov in the 'West' including the 'Evangelical' point of view Scandis would seem aloof, perhaps also disengaged, resistant, or even lazy or unwilling. Some would say rude.</p><p></p><p>Apparently Stockholm is vastly different to the rest of Sweden, so mmv. But I've heard that Stockholm (and perhaps Copenhagen) has really inefficient customer service, staff are unwilling to help, frequently claiming it's "not their job". A general unwillingness to serve, emphasising/protesting instead for "quality of life" and "work life balance". Which makes sense, re family time, leisure time, etc. But the legalistic inflexibility of working to the minute, for an outsider, is heartless. It'd interpreted as gross irresponsibility or negligence. Like Cain saying "Am I my brother's keeper?" --- For all the good things, I'm sure there's those who are deeply moral, kind, thoughtful, wise, dutiful and responsible. But there's quite a few rumours of these negative aspects floating about.</p><p></p><p>This sense of 'going above and beyond the call of duty' for Brits, Americans, and Australians, is practically a norm. Implied, expect, and sometimes demanded. There are ofc feet draggers who pull faces, but many are sincerely cheerful, enthusiastic, and proactive people. Serving other is a delight. And getting paid to do so. And our communication style here tends to be direct, confrontation, aggressive, even coercive.-- This potential culture I wonder about.</p><p></p><p>And technicalities like this:</p><p></p><p>"On paper, current welfare policies live up to the principle of providing for the social welfare of all; however, in practice, the policies do not amount to a substantive welfare system. ...Despite the municipality’s efforts to promote equality, <strong>differences in citizens’ access to services precludes, de facto, true equality of opportunity</strong>" <a href="https://www.humanityinaction.org/knowledge_detail/the-danish-illusion-the-gap-between-principle-and-practice-in-the-danish-welfare-system/" target="_blank">The Danish Illusion: The Gap Between Principle and Practice in the Danish Welfare System - Humanity in Action</a></p><p></p><p>That Scandis promise one thing (a splendid ideal), but in practice there are obstacles, inefficiencies, exemptions, that deny the said thing promised from eventuating.</p><p></p><p>Claims say Denmark is the "happiest country" yet the divorce rate is high, depression, loneliness, suicide, same-sex marriage and unnatural gender imbalances (frustrated/effeminate/emasculated men), families are increasingly under stress and in poverty, state welfare encourages breaking of families (for welfare payment), and children are "happy" but many dishonour parents, and there's an underbelly of vice that feels overlooked. All cultures will have problems, but I wonder how <em>these </em>issues, social issues, are discussed or practiced <em>differently</em> in Christian (and or Jewish) communities having God's word... Whether these issues plague Christians as well as non-Christians. And how it is God's flock is doing over there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="philadelphos, post: 76611677, member: 420433"] [I]Avoidance[/I], I'm noticing is a common theme. In Scandi culture there seems to be desire for 'normality', with "normal" being the status quo: normal person, normal marriage, normal family, normal job, and somehow it all adds up to being a good country. Except that illusion also entails a pack of lies or hypocrisies, in denial of reality and life's extremities. Please correct me if mistake, but I feel that day to day communication is an indicator for deeper matters, spiritual life, complex social issues. Perhaps there are more 'passive' but from the pov in the 'West' including the 'Evangelical' point of view Scandis would seem aloof, perhaps also disengaged, resistant, or even lazy or unwilling. Some would say rude. Apparently Stockholm is vastly different to the rest of Sweden, so mmv. But I've heard that Stockholm (and perhaps Copenhagen) has really inefficient customer service, staff are unwilling to help, frequently claiming it's "not their job". A general unwillingness to serve, emphasising/protesting instead for "quality of life" and "work life balance". Which makes sense, re family time, leisure time, etc. But the legalistic inflexibility of working to the minute, for an outsider, is heartless. It'd interpreted as gross irresponsibility or negligence. Like Cain saying "Am I my brother's keeper?" --- For all the good things, I'm sure there's those who are deeply moral, kind, thoughtful, wise, dutiful and responsible. But there's quite a few rumours of these negative aspects floating about. This sense of 'going above and beyond the call of duty' for Brits, Americans, and Australians, is practically a norm. Implied, expect, and sometimes demanded. There are ofc feet draggers who pull faces, but many are sincerely cheerful, enthusiastic, and proactive people. Serving other is a delight. And getting paid to do so. And our communication style here tends to be direct, confrontation, aggressive, even coercive.-- This potential culture I wonder about. And technicalities like this: "On paper, current welfare policies live up to the principle of providing for the social welfare of all; however, in practice, the policies do not amount to a substantive welfare system. ...Despite the municipality’s efforts to promote equality, [B]differences in citizens’ access to services precludes, de facto, true equality of opportunity[/B]" [URL='https://www.humanityinaction.org/knowledge_detail/the-danish-illusion-the-gap-between-principle-and-practice-in-the-danish-welfare-system/']The Danish Illusion: The Gap Between Principle and Practice in the Danish Welfare System - Humanity in Action[/URL] That Scandis promise one thing (a splendid ideal), but in practice there are obstacles, inefficiencies, exemptions, that deny the said thing promised from eventuating. Claims say Denmark is the "happiest country" yet the divorce rate is high, depression, loneliness, suicide, same-sex marriage and unnatural gender imbalances (frustrated/effeminate/emasculated men), families are increasingly under stress and in poverty, state welfare encourages breaking of families (for welfare payment), and children are "happy" but many dishonour parents, and there's an underbelly of vice that feels overlooked. All cultures will have problems, but I wonder how [I]these [/I]issues, social issues, are discussed or practiced [I]differently[/I] in Christian (and or Jewish) communities having God's word... Whether these issues plague Christians as well as non-Christians. And how it is God's flock is doing over there. [/QUOTE]
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