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  1. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    I am sure you don't believe everything others write here in the forum. I guess she thinks Noah and Abraham were Jews.
  2. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    I take it from what you wrote that once we are saved, we will be able to keep God's laws. In other words, do we become robots? God gave the Israelites the Ten Commandments for them to keep. Is there any evidence that they were saved? Nine of the Ten could be kept out of duty. The...
  3. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    the above doesn't seem to be even close to commenting on my statement. Where are you coming from? That is strictly your opinion, and your opinion is wrong. Where do you get these beliefs? Jesus could only change or remove laws that He made. Pharisees were free agents, not robots. They...
  4. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    Was Abraham saved because of his perfect works or by God's grace because of Abraham's faith? No one has ever been saved because they "overcame" sin. All have been saved because they believed and were saved by their faith. Not because they pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps. I know...
  5. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    Where is the verse that tells us they kept it perfectly? Had Israel kept the commands of the covenant, they would today be: 5 Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, 6 you will be for me a...
  6. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    All of God's laws were moral versus being immoral. That is not the point. Not all of the laws given to Israel dealt with morality. Some dealt with civil duty, some laws dealt with rituals, and some dealt wiith health. I don't remember anyone saying Eph is teaching that. The law was full of...
  7. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    Wrong, it does not state that the weekly Sabbath started on the day God rested. That is a complete falsehood. Where in the World did you come up with that? Not us SB, it all pertained to Israel. God, according to historical facts, never asked any of the remainder of His children around the...
  8. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. When were Jews ever demanded to observe shadows...
  9. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    And it was for the Israelites. WE??? He was speaking the those under the law, not we. It was a command given, by God, to one nation, Israel. Read all of 1Jn 3 and then use it to promote your false Gospel.
  10. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    Well said.
  11. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    Are you saying those things about me because they are really true, and are you able to back them up, or are you writing those things to make yourself look better? Because you demand I answer personal questions does not mean I must cower and answer them. Where I worship is not anyone's...
  12. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    Sin is not loving God and not loving our fellow man. Sin is not trying to keep ritual laws of the Old Covenant, like keeping the weekly ritual Sabbath. Read on, brother, in the same chapter, John tells us what the Law is. We belong to the truth if we believe in Jesus and love others as He...
  13. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    Surely it is a sin. If we truly love Jesus will we take His name in vain? Laws dealing with morality are forever. The ritual laws given to only one nation, Israel, have ended as per Eph 2:15. All of the Sabbaths given to Israel were ceremonial or ritual.
  14. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    It seems like every post from you creates a false dichotomy of others. Why is it that you, every chance you get, put people down by falsely accusing us of something? Actually, your method of debating is only degrading yourself. Your statements remind me of when I was an SDA and was prompted...
  15. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    "I don't necessarily see the Ten Commandments being obsolete, merely relativized." FireDragon Did you bother to read the following? 7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses...
  16. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    This was true until Jesus, at Calvary, fulfilled all of the laws of the Old Covenant. Not one jot or one tittle would pass from the Law until He fulfilled the Law. How come even you believe He fulfilled ( brought to an end) the Sacrificial system, the feasts days, and the new moon...
  17. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    Jesus said he came to fulfill the Law. There are other matters Jesus will fulfill, but the fact is He was specific in what He fulfilled.. Actually, Jesus did do everything for us. "He himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of...
  18. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    Jesus brought the prophecies about His coming to an end. He had to have brought all of the Sinai covenant laws to an end because not one jot or one tittle would pass from the law until He did what He came to do. We wouldn't see the Levitical laws being brought to an end if Jesus had not...
  19. Bob S

    Jesus claimed He came to fulfill the Law, Did He?

    Then you have not read 2Cor3:6-11.
  20. Bob S

    By the Law Is the Knowledge of Sin

    Yes, it is not what we do, it is what Jesus did. If our gift of eternal life depends on what we do, Heaven is going to be barren. We, out of our love for Jesus, will keep His command to love our fellow man.
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