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  1. Ana the Ist

    Free will and determinism

    Disagree. Perfect knowledge of outcomes isn't required for those outcomes to be distinctly different. If I choose between two sodas without perfect knowledge one is flat... it would result in different behavior rather than if I made the other choice even if choices appear identical.
  2. Ana the Ist

    Free will and determinism

    Indeed. Iit's that concreteness or completeness...that provides the determinist the emotional satisfaction from the worldview. The odd thing is that while worldviews can change the perception of reality and alter behavior.....determinism does not. Determinists still behave as free will...
  3. Ana the Ist

    Free will and determinism

    It's unclear why we don't simply call these choices. After all....it's rather meaningless to say that it allows for decisions, but not choices. It's unclear why all choices simply become preferences when you may obviously prefer one thing, but pursuing preferences is suggesting that you don't...
  4. Ana the Ist

    Free will and determinism

    The entire field of psychology would debate against this. It's not an explanation of anything. Making a choice on nothing is a nonsense statement. https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/choice : the act of choosing : the act of picking or deciding between two or more possibilities That's...
  5. Ana the Ist

    Free will and determinism

    You don't even need to understand the problem of hard consciousness. Consider just one aspect of it...like abstraction. Why would we be able to consider possibilities that don't currently exist in the universe? At some point....the Wright bros. decided to make a flying machine....despite no...
  6. Ana the Ist

    Free will and determinism

    Independently of any prior event or state of the universe makes zero sense. Free will proponents don't argue they can defy gravity and jump across continents. Free will proponents don't argue that they aren't required to be alive to make free will choices...
  7. Ana the Ist

    Free will and determinism

    Determinism seems to suggest that one day, with enough knowledge, we can find those neural synapses that hold the memory of you dropping a popsicle on the sidewalk during the summer when you were 7. That, or the false memory of it that was actually an episode of Boy Meets World you saw when you...
  8. Ana the Ist

    Fallacies and the Ethical Application of "fault"

    Ok....I don't mean to rush you to the point, but can I ask why? Look, if you want to claim dogma and axioms are the same....fine. It's not as if I'm claiming to have come up with various epistemic axioms all by myself. Anytime I imagine I held an original thought, I inevitably find someone...
  9. Ana the Ist

    Fallacies and the Ethical Application of "fault"

    Didn't I mention this in a previous post? You can either accept my claim to be able to change belief or not. I know the Baron's trilemma. Something about a Baron, mud, hats, etc. And no...I've never seen it in practice lol. Pretty sure. Take a cookie from the jar and place it on the...
  10. Ana the Ist

    Fallacies and the Ethical Application of "fault"

    It's not a stop. I've never seen it in practice lol. Because you're holding the same assumption I am? Ok... Alright... Why would I need to? Didn't we just agree it's axiomatic?
  11. Ana the Ist

    Fallacies and the Ethical Application of "fault"

    Ok...no real disagreement there. I'm unsure. There's several ways to read into it. Ok. Well I'd prefer something more than pain or poverty...before accepting resentment. Those are a bit too common to justify the third alone. Marxism is a middle class ideology. Upper middle to be...
  12. Ana the Ist

    Fallacies and the Ethical Application of "fault"

    Sure. Axiomatic truths/assumptions. It's unclear what you're saying. Could you give an example? Well they cannot entirely be justified either. I don't know what's with the "we" stuff. I gave you an example of such an assumption....honestly. Was there something else you were getting at?
  13. Ana the Ist

    Free will and determinism

    Because we don't always choose what we prefer. I am participating in this thread after all. Because it's obvious people prefer options they may choose not pursue. Not really. What decision are you talking about? I'd have to be alive to make a decision....is that an "antecedent...
  14. Ana the Ist

    Free will and determinism

    Is it an option? You must believe slaves preferred slavery.
  15. Ana the Ist

    Free will and determinism

    Well it would have to be....otherwise, if one cause can create multiple outcomes, I must be choosing those outcomes. Hence, free will. Multiple causes, multiple choices. That's why I asked you to list some. Of course you don't....it's a terrible description of human behavior. It's not...
  16. Ana the Ist

    Free will and determinism

    You can abstract from the known possible choices to unknown possible choices or synthesis of existing possible choices into new possible choices. Obviously. Preference doesn't seem to have much to do with the prospect of reasoning. I may prefer to call in sick but go to work anyway. Some...
  17. Ana the Ist

    Free will and determinism

    The simple logic of causation? I gave you an example of a situation where it would be extremely difficult to find a unique cause for a unique choice....and you simply asserted it must be there. That's faith, not logic, not evidence. You can claim whatever you like without any shred of...
  18. Ana the Ist

    Free will and determinism

    Which includes capacity for reasoning....or in other words, the ability to create reasons, not merely preferences, for a choice. Free will.
  19. Ana the Ist

    Fallacies and the Ethical Application of "fault"

    Eh...rhetoric is more about using these elements effectively to pursuade...not everyone gets the same capacity of reasoning nor capacity of empathy so using all elements effectively can make for the desired results. As far as I understand, Cicero is the best place to start but if you aren't...
  20. Ana the Ist

    Fallacies and the Ethical Application of "fault"

    Right...well you can either trust that I can change my view on consideration of new evidence or not. It's simply a suggestion because we're all susceptible to confirmation bias.
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