Are they cases against Trump falling apart?

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Wow! It is Trump's lawyers' aim to prevent indictments from going to juries. Or even going to trial--by hook or by crook, mostly crook.
That's the aim of all defense lawyers. To first try preventing prosecution and then to stop the prosecution from getting the case to trial. Which is usually achieved by uncovering misconduct or corruption perpetrated by the prosecution. So indeed it might end up being mostly by crook.
 
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Au contraire. Most cases don't go to trial because of plea bargaining, because most prosecutors don't go to trial without sufficient evidence to convict.
Thus NY Court has a 99.9% conviction rate. Their case has so far been meticulous, with multiple layers of corroboration on everything, including Daniels and Cohen.
$50 million to dig up dirt on Merchan, and they found one six year-old $30 donation. ROFL!
I just did the math. The rate of return on the defense witch hunt--$30--equals $1 in graft (LOL) fir every $1.6 million in defense costs. ROFL.
 
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Au contraire. Most cases don't go to trial because of plea bargaining, because most prosecutors don't go to trial without sufficient evidence to convict.
Thus NY Court has a 99.9% conviction rate. Their case has so far been meticulous, with multiple layers of corroboration on everything, including Daniels and Cohen.
$50 million to dig up dirt on Merchan, and they found one six year-old $30 donation. ROFL!
I just did the math. The rate of return on the defense witch hunt--$30--equals $1 in graft (LOL) fir every $1.6 million in defense costs. ROFL.
The first step is the defense tries to find something that will get the case thrown out of court. Then comes the plea bargaining. So any defense team is going to try digging up something to get the case dismissed. There's nothing unusual about it.

Also I'm seeing NY court having a 38% conviction rate, not 99.9%. The only court I saw having a 99.9% conviction rate is China because it's a totalitarian regime.
 
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I see his venomous, rage-filled disinformation campaign outside the courtroom each day fools some of the people all of the time.

But, as the proverb goes, he can't fool all of the people all of the time.
It appears to me that many are fooled daily by the Biden administration.
 
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He is entitled to a trial. He is presumed innocent, although his outrageous behavior and horrifying history make it difficult.

Sadly, his "defense" attorneys have concluded that his alleged actions are indefensible, and that there only alternatives are to obstruct, postpone, ask for mistrials, file briefs, dig up dirt about the prosecutors and judges and try to make the case about their alleged failings, etc.
Can you list what he is charged with in the current NY case?
 
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Are the cases falling apart? If by that you mean the evidence that will be presented if they go to trial, it seems that answer is "no". There is a lot for Trump to overcome there.

If however you mean will the cases be delayed past the election and assuming Trump wins all be left unprosecuted, then for the federal charges there is a good chance they will fall apart. That is why the current NY case and the GA case are most concerning for Trump. One will complete, and unless the defense already did a good job of finding one juror who will hold out for a mistrial, that case will likely end in conviction. Still, the sentence will likely not include jail time, so campaign goes on. The GA case could still happen even if he gets elected, though likely delayed until 2029, which gives lots of time both for a new DA to take it over or for GA state politicians to find a way to kill it.
 
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Are the cases falling apart? If by that you mean the evidence that will be presented if they go to trial, it seems that answer is "no". There is a lot for Trump to overcome there.

If however you mean will the cases be delayed past the election and assuming Trump wins all be left unprosecuted, then for the federal charges there is a good chance they will fall apart. That is why the current NY case and the GA case are most concerning for Trump. One will complete, and unless the defense already did a good job of finding one juror who will hold out for a mistrial, that case will likely end in conviction. Still, the sentence will likely not include jail time, so campaign goes on. The GA case could still happen even if he gets elected, though likely delayed until 2029, which gives lots of time both for a new DA to take it over or for GA state politicians to find a way to kill it.
Can you actually name the charges in the NY case? Especially the charge or charges that make a past the statute of limitations misdemeanor a felony? What is the actual charged crime here?
 
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Can you actually name the charges in the NY case? Especially the charge or charges that make a past the statute of limitations misdemeanor a felony? What is the actual charged crime here?
The charges are pretty simple, 34 counts of falsifying business records, but I think you already know that. Obviously I am not a NY law expert, but those who are say they are felonies because they were committed with the intent to conceal another crime which is a felony in NY. Again, I think you already know that. So what is driving your question?

Ultimately the jury will decide if the burden of proof is there or not.
 
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The charges are pretty simple, 34 counts of falsifying business records, but I think you already know that. Obviously I am not a NY law expert, but those who are say they are felonies because they were committed with the intent to conceal another crime which is a felony in NY. Again, I think you already know that. So what is driving your question?

Ultimately the jury will decide if the burden of proof is there or not.
All of the falsifying records charges are past the statute of limitations. The intent to conceal another crime is all that allowed them to be brought up. The problem is there is no other crime specified. What crime did Trump intend to conceal? This is a sham trial that any self respecting DA would never have brought. Even liberal legal scholars acknowledge this.
 
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He just got hit with a half billion dollar bill for falsifying business records, and that was just a few months ago.
Your comments indicate you know he has committed many crimes--at least 34--but that due to the statute of limitations he should be 'lucky.' (Innocent is completely inappropriate.)

To voters if good conscience, should it matter? God doesn't have a statute of limitations. Are criminals who don't get charged in time responsible, honest, public-spirited enough to hold office because the paperwork is late? Wrong is wrong.
 
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He just got hit with a half billion dollar bill for falsifying business records, and that was just a few months ago.
Your comments indicate you know he has committed many crimes--at least 34--but that due to the statute of limitations he should be 'lucky.' (Innocent is completely inappropriate.)

To voters if good conscience, should it matter? God doesn't have a statute of limitations. Are criminals who don't get charged in time responsible, honest, public-spirited enough to hold office because the paperwork is late? Wrong is wrong.
I haven’t indicated any such thing. It seem there is an overwhelming desire to see Trump convicted in this NY case whether or not it is a legal, legitimate case. The fact that the statute of limitations had expired has no bearing on wether or not Trump is actually guilty. In fact it came out in court a bookkeeper made the entries not Trump. Let’s put this in perspective the bookkeeping entries if they were illegal were misdemeanors. It has not been proven in court they were falsely categorized. The travesty here is Bragg is trying to force these misdemeanors into felonies by alleging another crime which is yet to be named. I agree all crime is crime but on this topic there seems to be no balance. This is not about law and order it is only about stopping Trump. What is the other alleged crime?
 
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All of the falsifying records charges are past the statute of limitations. The intent to conceal another crime is all that allowed them to be brought up. The problem is there is no other crime specified. What crime did Trump intend to conceal? This is a sham trial that any self respecting DA would never have brought. Even liberal legal scholars acknowledge this.
Of course the other crimes were brought up - alleged election law violations (both Federal and State) and alleged tax law violations. The DA mentioned them in his opening argument. Again, I am not an expert in NY law, but those who are have said that the NY law which allows the misdemeanor to become a felony applies even if the crime being concealed or furthered is not charged by NY, for example if it were a Federal crime that was being concealed. Certainly the reality that Trump was not charged for those crimes forces the DA to convince a jury that those crimes occurred, which is the big challenge for the DA in this case. Trump's defense, if their goal is to at least get the jury to believe these were only misdemeanors, should work on that point during their part of the trial. IMO, your argument is based on your wish that NY law be other than what those who enacted those laws put in place.
 
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Of course the other crimes were brought up - alleged election law violations (both Federal and State) and alleged tax law violations. The DA mentioned them in his opening argument. Again, I am not an expert in NY law, but those who are have said that the NY law which allows the misdemeanor to become a felony applies even if the crime being concealed or furthered is not charged by NY, for example if it were a Federal crime that was being concealed. Certainly the reality that Trump was not charged for those crimes forces the DA to convince a jury that those crimes occurred, which is the big challenge for the DA in this case. Trump's defense, if their goal is to at least get the jury to believe these were only misdemeanors, should work on that point during their part of the trial. IMO, your argument is based on your wish that NY law be other than what those who enacted those laws put in place.
You really should listen to the legal scholars who say this is a sham trial, some of which are liberals. No-one here is following NY law , they are making it up as they go. You say alleged election violations and tax law violations, well which ones? None have been specified. This is a witch hunt in search of a crime. In any normal case the defendant would know what he is being charged with specifically. Despite your fuzzy math assessment. no specific federal crimes have been laid out. And defiantly not been proven thus far. The judge is comprised and incompetent. The gag order is being misapplied nothing about this trial is fair , legal or just.
 
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You really should listen to the legal scholars who say this is a sham trial, some of which are liberals. No-one here is following NY law , they are making it up as they go. You say alleged election violations and tax law violations, well which ones? None have been specified. This is a witch hunt in search of a crime. In any normal case the defendant would know what he is being charged with specifically. Despite your fuzzy math assessment. no specific federal crimes have been laid out. And defiantly not been proven thus far. The judge is comprised and incompetent. The gag order is being misapplied nothing about this trial is fair , legal or just.
The thing is, being a conservative Christian whose first focus is the church and not partisan politics, I read across a wide spectrum of news sources, from National Review and Foxnews, through USA Today, to CNN among others. I do avoid the shill outlets on both sides because they add little value. I have heard legitimate discussions that this particular trial is using that law to reach beyond what is typically done, however the clear consensus, across the spectrum, would disagree with your assessment. Not all, some would agree with you, but the consensus is strong.

Personally, I wish this case had not gone to trial and instead the issues that are more pertinent to Trump's ability to be President, the documents and election tampering allegations, had been placed before a jury with all the evidence, prosecution and defense, put out so we can learn the truth. What I wish, or you wish, isn't really relevant because it isn't what we have. Ultimately a jury will decide if the DA made his case, including the felony part, which I put a whole lot more stock in than politicians framing issues to further their political goals.
 
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The thing is, being a conservative Christian whose first focus is the church and not partisan politics,
So a Christian should not be concerned with politics that affects every aspect of daily life?
I read across a wide spectrum of news sources, from National Review and Foxnews, through USA Today, to CNN among others. I do avoid the shill outlets on both sides because they add little value. I have heard legitimate discussions that this particular trial is using that law to reach beyond what is typically done, however the clear consensus, across the spectrum, would disagree with your assessment.
Name one legal scholar who believes this is a properly handled case.

Not all, some would agree with you, but the consensus is strong.

Are you saying the consensus is strong among legal scholars or political partisans?
Personally, I wish this case had not gone to trial and instead the issues that are more pertinent to Trump's ability to be President, the documents
That case is going nowhere as well. Do we have to get into the obvious unfairness between the Biden document case and the Trump document case?

and election tampering allegations,
Questioning an elections validity is not tampering. Democrats do it all the time. It only becomes illegal when Trump does it.

had been placed before a jury with all the evidence, prosecution and defense, put out so we can learn the truth. What I wish, or you wish, isn't really relevant because it isn't what we have. Ultimately a jury will decide if the DA made his case, including the felony part, which I put a whole lot more stock in than politicians framing issues to further their political goals.
It is a mistake to put any stock in Mr. Bragg, he is corrupt.Actually new information has come to light that he ignored evidence beneficial to Trump. That is illegal for him and he should be disbarred and or prosecuted.
 
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