Biden administration asks Supreme Court to block Texas immigration law

Valletta said:

LOL. You just ignore the legal argument and make a pronouncement. That's what the administration so often does.

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Or the judge:

“First,” the judge wrote, “the Supremacy Clause and Supreme Court precedent affirm that states may not exercise immigration enforcement power except as authorized by the federal government. Second, SB 4 conflicts with key provisions of federal immigration law, to the detriment of the United States’ foreign relations and treaty obligations.”

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How about just enforcing the laws already on the books -

Valletta said:

States have every right to uphold federal law. As I showed in my example, federal and states do often have laws on the same subject.

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They often have laws on the same subject, but there are things that only the Federal government is empowered to legislate on and enforce.

Valletta said:

State and local police have apprehended illegals in the past, it shouldn't change because individuals in the federal government refuse to obey the law.

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Well then I suggest you take it up with the founders because that's the system they set up.

SB4: Supreme Court again blocks Texas law allowing police to arrest migrants​

In Monday's ruling, the Supreme Court imposed an administrative stay, meaning SB4 cannot be enforced while emergency appeals from the Biden administration and other challengers play out.

Justice Samuel Alito's brief order suggested the court could take additional action. It is the third time the conservative justice has paused SB4.

Yes, He lost another his record is historically bad, he is a kind elderly man that has a bad memory though.

A federal appeals court late Tuesday night put Texas’ controversial immigration law back on hold.

In a brief order, a three-judge panel at the 5th US Circuit Court of Appeals said it voted 2-1 to wipe away a previous ruling from a different panel that had temporarily put the law, SB 4, into effect.

essentialsaltes said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/19/politics/texas-immigration-law-blocked-appeals/index.html

A federal appeals court late Tuesday night put Texas’ controversial immigration law back on hold.

In a brief order, a three-judge panel at the 5th US Circuit Court of Appeals said it voted 2-1 to wipe away a previous ruling from a different panel that had temporarily put the law, SB 4, into effect.

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This whole situation is a bit of a convoluted mess, but the Supreme Court's ruling was actually somewhat of a slapdown for the 5th Circuit, even if it technically upheld their stay (which, confusingly, actually allowed the law to be enforced).

The short version is that the 5th Circuit issued an administrative stay on a lower court's injunction against enforcement of SB4. Administrative stays are meant to be used as short-term (usually a few days at most) measures to maintain the status quo while judges review the case - thus, they aren't subject to review by other courts and don't require the judges to write up any sort of justification or reasoning for the stay. The problem is, the 5th Circuit has a history of letting administrative stays run for weeks or even months without issuing a final ruling on the issue (which would require them to explain their reasoning), as they did in this case - the Supreme Court ruling came two weeks after the 5th Circuit had been fully briefed on the merits of the case, with the administrative stay still in effect.

So, while the SC declined to remove the stay, it was primarily on procedural grounds (they don't want to get in the business of reviewing administrative stays) - the opinion that they issued also included a warning to the 5th Circuit to stop the shenanigans with administrative stays, or they would let the case come back and look to review it on the merits. Seems like the 5th Circuit got the message.

Belk said:

Remind us again again who scuttled the legislation that was crafted to deal with this issue?

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Well, let's go see...um...

Republican Brags About Sabotaging Border Security Deal​

Oh, yeah...

Valletta said:

From secretly flying in illegals to lying about the border being safe, secure, and closed, the one thing for sure is that the Biden administration has been dishonest with the American people. It seems clear to me the idea is to bring in as many illegals as possible, give them government benefits so they will stay here and be counted in the census for more Democrat representatives in Congress, and become citizens so the Democrats can make this a one party dominated country. If they get that far I have no doubt they will try and get rid of the Senate filibuster and pack the Supreme Court.

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Ok the one thing that absolutely drives me crazy is when people refer to immigrants WHO ARE ALLOWED TO ENTER as “illegals”. If they are allowed to enter they aren’t illegal. Illegal immigrants are immigrants that ARE NOT allowed to enter but entered anyway. If the government permits someone to do something then it isn’t illegal. When an immigrant is allowed to enter the country to live here by the US government they’re literally called “legal residents”.

Valletta said:

The Biden administration said allowing Texas’ law to go into effect would harm the government’s relationship with other countries — particularly Mexico which has not agreed to accept deportees from Texas.
“By allowing Texas to remove noncitizens to Mexico without its consent, SB4 would have significant and immediate adverse effects on the United States’ relationship with Mexico — a relationship that is critical to the federal government’s ability to effectively address immigration at the southwest border,” Prelogar wrote.

Biden administration asks Supreme Court to block Texas immigration law

The justices are being asked to jump into another fight between the Biden administration and Texas over immigration.

www.courthousenews.com

This should be of no surprise to anyone that knows what is going on. Joe and his people have no intention of stopping the invasion.

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Well if Biden doesn’t want Texas to deport illegals to Mexico maybe we could deport them to the White House instead, that way the Mexican government won’t get upset about it. I don’t get how Mexico can refuse to accept their own citizens. Who cares whether they like it or not they’re Mexican citizens. If they came over illegally then they have no right to stay.

BNR32FAN said:

Well if Biden doesn’t want Texas to deport illegals to Mexico maybe we could deport them to the White House instead, that way the Mexican government won’t get upset about it.

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Apparently, the feds, a little miffed that DeSantis and Abbot started shipping immigrants to northern cities as political theater, have begun relocating more of them in Florida and Texas. A lot more of them.

Poetic justice.

Valletta said:

That's a good point to discuss. What if the president orders student loans to be paid off in violation of the law, or brings in those from other countries in violation of U.S. law? To me it is still illegal, although those who entered under such circumstances (like any January 6th people who walked in and left when told to leave) should not be imprisoned.

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You’re assuming that these immigrants aren’t being processed when the fact is they are being processed, that’s why there are thousands of homeless people sleeping on the Mexican side of the boarder. They’re there because they’re NOT being allowed to enter yet because they haven’t been processed. If they’re processed in by USCIS then no law has been broken.

BNR32FAN said:

You’re assuming that these immigrants aren’t being processed when the fact is they are being processed, that’s why there are thousands of homeless people sleeping on the Mexican side of the boarder. They’re there because they’re NOT being allowed to enter yet because they haven’t been processed. If they’re processed in by USCIS then no law has been broken.

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There are lots of people sneaking in, but they aren't those you see lined up to be processed. And more and more of them are coming in by air, from Asia and other places. While Drowsy Don keeps pointing his suckers at the southern border. Wonder why? Me too.

The Barbarian said:

There are lots of people sneaking in, but they aren't those you see lined up to be processed. And more and more of them are coming in by air, from Asia and other places. While Drowsy Don keeps pointing his suckers at the southern border. Wonder why? Me too.

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Yeah I mean if they’re sneaking across the boarder then they’re illegal immigrants but I think it’s ridiculous to say that the government is allowing “illegal” immigrants to enter the US because if they’re allowed to enter then they’re not illegal. People who say this are just promoting propaganda.