PDA

View Full Version : Are we too politically correct?


Droobie
2nd March 2004, 07:46 PM
Is political correctness going too far? Are we bending our beliefs and morals just so we don't offend people? Are we accepting groups that we disagree with, letting them have a voice and remaining silent just to avoid conflict?

TrustNo1
2nd March 2004, 11:23 PM
I think that it is stupid how if we say something that offends someone even though it is the truth conflict happens. Like homosexuality, if I were to tell a homosexual that God hates homosexuality they get angry and tell me I'm racist or sexest. I may be telling them the absolute truth but because they have feelings people make me out to be the evil guy.

caley
2nd March 2004, 11:29 PM
I think it depends on your definition of political correctness. If you define political correctness as using certain non-offensive terms for groups of people (e.g. Native American instead of Indian) then I have no problem whatsoever with political correctness because the purpose of this is not only to be respectful and non-offensive, but also to use words that most accurately describe the group one is talking about. However, as far as political correctness refers to adopting a certain line of thinking (guns are bad, gays are good, schools are good, right-wingers are bad), then political correctness is completely useless and works only to marginalize certain people who believe certain ways.

tetelestai
2nd March 2004, 11:36 PM
I think that in the matter of politics Christians have been compromising for a long long time. i think that we are losing ground as our society loses is sence of moral direction.

i think our society as a whole has become overly concerned with nomenclature. we put to much importance one what a thing is named. and people become more and more isolated as we continue to name groups over and over again to avoid the connotations attached to them. i mean, our local knights of columbus sell tootsie rolls outside of walmart every year. last year, their bright yellow vests said, "help retarded chidlren." they weren't using it as a slur. they were talking about children with redardation. but this year, their vests said, "help the developmentally disabled." now, i dont belive that is any more consice than "retarded." their cause hasn't changed, but they were forced to reidentify it. why?

Dysarrae
3rd March 2004, 01:46 AM
I think political correctness is a load....however, I do think people, all people need to learn to censor themselves when the occassion calls for it.

Blessed-one
3rd March 2004, 03:51 AM
I think that in the matter of politics Christians have been compromising for a long long time. i think that we are losing ground as our society loses is sence of moral direction.

i think our society as a whole has become overly concerned with nomenclature. we put to much importance one what a thing is named. and people become more and more isolated as we continue to name groups over and over again to avoid the connotations attached to them. i mean, our local knights of columbus sell tootsie rolls outside of walmart every year. last year, their bright yellow vests said, "help retarded chidlren." they weren't using it as a slur. they were talking about children with redardation. but this year, their vests said, "help the developmentally disabled." now, i dont belive that is any more consice than "retarded." their cause hasn't changed, but they were forced to reidentify it. why?

interesting.. i read an article today comparing modern business language to the language of communism.. and of course.. ironically, their similarities.
Word is becoming quite a powerful tool, allowing us to mask whatever behind words that are more acceptable on the surface. And i guess it all links back to 'not to offend people' line in Droobie's post.
Emphasis on 'human right' right?

Konnie
3rd March 2004, 12:17 PM
Yes, we should be able to say what we want.

NiemandheißtBoshaftigkeit
5th March 2004, 02:52 AM
Well, you(pl.) are but I usually say whatever I want........bad habit.....o well.......

Anti-Fear
5th March 2004, 03:36 AM
Yes, political corectness is bad.
However thats only on political level. if you're talking person to person doesnt mean you should say things the way they really are all the time

Morrissey
5th March 2004, 01:20 PM
It's become too much of a problem because it's now permeated every aspect of life, and a lot of times, the new PC word doesn't justify the reality of the situation. Someone mentioned "developmentally disabled" for retarded children. Well...someone born with only one leg, or some other sort of physical defect is also "developmentally disabled" but nobody's going to consider them retarded. Retarded refers to mental problems, "developmentally disabled" could be anything. That's a problem.

UberLutheran
5th March 2004, 01:50 PM
...even when I'm telling a fundamentalist Christian that their theology is as full of holes as Swiss cheese; and they ought to take a look at Romans 2 because it just might apply to them.

They frequently get angry when I say things like that, but hey -- that's their problem, not mine.

Polycarp1
5th March 2004, 02:04 PM
Droobie, I voted "No" but the answer I'd actually give is not an option.

We're called always to "speak the truth in love" -- but for me, "love" entails courtesy and respect for the other. I will use the PC term to and of another person as a gesture of considering him or her my equal and respecting his or her desires regarding what appellation is appropriate. I will try to understand his or her point of view, even if I consider it wrong, as a means whereby we can actually communicate in expressing our differing points of view.

keeotee
5th March 2004, 02:24 PM
I suppose there is little I coan add to this discussion, but perhaps a couple thoughts for what they might be worth.

Policitcal correctness, referred to as PC henceforth, is vague by intent and purpose. Today some words are acceptable but tomorrow? Some thoughts are quite alright today but tomorrow? How vague can it possibly get? And there is no one source defining this. It comes fom many sources and is in constant change.

Thus, how can one accurately define PC? Sure, some define it, but does that definition really hold up under the constantly changing landscape and face of PC? I don't think so. It almost seems to be made up as it goes along.

However, PC does incorporate some worthy goals and tenets. I personally do not feel we should be able to say whatever we want, whenever we want and to whomever we want. Now the primary reason I say this is because to do so would not be Biblical. We are instructed in God's Word on how to treat others, how to speak to others and in my opinion, we are not given free reign to speak as we like. God just has a tendency to let us get away with it - for awhile.

If we claim to speak in love and offend, we had best be sure we are very right about it. Is it the person we love or the sound of our own voice, the pleasure of seeming to be wise and the joy of sharing our opinions? Even if we speak the truth, if not done in love, we had best be very, very careful. Jesus spoke in far less than tones of love to the pharisees, but I think He was definitely a better judge of the situation than most of us.

So, I suppose PC has it's benefits. But is it really PC or is it what God told us in His Word long before PC ever came on the scene! So the benefits of PC come from the Bible. The rest of it is what happens when man tampers with something good and tries to pervert it.

UK_Personality
5th March 2004, 02:35 PM
I think it's ok to say 'i believe that...' rather than 'this is this so deal with it...' Beople should say what they believe... but they shouldn't tell other people that they're wrong. You could spend forever arguing over it and in the end you'de never get anywhere.

Glorianna
30th March 2004, 04:47 AM
Things that we don't mean to be offensive can be construed that way. What is this world coming to?

trixiebell
30th March 2004, 06:52 AM
PC to me, is a very scary thing for all of us to be heading towards. It reminds me of George Orwell's book "1984"....in the book it is referred to as "new speak"...very similar to PC.

trixiebell
30th March 2004, 08:46 AM
An afterthought: Do you find it ironic that PC is required when referring to certain groups/people..... BUT when it comes to Christians, PC isn't necessary? (That's how I see it anyway) Seems to me PC is prejudiced!

That's ok though, I don't need anyone to be PC around me :)

Unique
12th May 2004, 10:19 AM
We try to sugarcoat what we believe too much. Usually the full truth of what we believe is best, even if we are labeled as intolerant.

UberLutheran
12th May 2004, 10:29 AM
Where most people have a filter between what they think and what they say, I have an amplifier and heavy-duty speakers!

For those of you who remember the '70s sitcom, "Maude" -- I have been described as "Maude-in-Training"; and I've been told I help make synod assemblies LOTS more lively!

rubberduckie
24th May 2004, 11:21 PM
Quote from trixiebell:

An afterthought: Do you find it ironic that PC is required when referring to certain groups/people..... BUT when it comes to Christians, PC isn't necessary? (That's how I see it anyway) Seems to me PC is prejudiced!

That's ok though, I don't need anyone to be PC around me :)

... um, well, I had a teacher who was printing up quizzes for me to make up, an she said, "if the gods be with us, the printer will work", and I guess, I dunno, I kinda didn't like it, and it showed in my face, and she tried to make up saying, "I'm sorry, it was only a joke, I shouldn't have said it." So she tried to be PC with me. But anyways, we need to be BC, biblically correct.

noob
25th May 2004, 06:17 PM
I think sometimes political correctness can go way too far. My basic standard is that it's better to be honest and offend someone, than to lie in order to be politically correct. Also political correctness should never come before freedom of speech, in my opinion :)

Jeremiah the Bullfrog
25th May 2004, 06:54 PM
You do not have the right never to be offended. :cool:

Moros
25th May 2004, 07:08 PM
PC relations between catholics and orthodox here are far too liberal.

rubberduckie
25th May 2004, 07:16 PM
Quote from noob: My basic standard is that it's better to be honest and offend someone, than to lie in order to be politically correct

Good. And not to just not to argue, but not to hem and haw like politicians do. Be straightforward. :)

violetstar
4th June 2004, 07:59 PM
Yes, no two people think a like, so we should always voice our opinion maybe you show someone they never really thought of.

Texas Lynn
5th June 2004, 01:56 AM
I voted for the second option but really I did not like either one. There are common aspects to the first and second options. I guess what I mean is no one has a right to demand others agree with them. Yet while one always has a right to his or her opinion, one never has a right to expect to be able to state an opinion free from criticism.

Pacigoth13
5th June 2004, 03:50 AM
political correctness is a joke

TheMainException
16th June 2004, 03:30 PM
We need to stop thinking "oh, this could hurt him, but then that could hurt her, and that could hurt those people over there." If we keep thinking like that we will never say anything. But at the same time, there are people walking around with so much hate that if you say one simple thing, you could get shot. We are embassadors (sp?) of Christ, we are to live like Christ and should only say things that he would say.

cat has felt the light!
26th June 2004, 01:09 PM
I guess I'm not sure, sometimes we have to step back and acept that others have their own opinions after all we would expect them to accept ours whether they believed it or not. There's no point in saying "yes but we're right!" because they think they are too. However to not tell God's truth in order to avoid hurting someone well now that ain't right!
C@ xx

The-Doctor
26th June 2004, 02:57 PM
Yup.....far too much PCing for my liking!

signwonder
9th July 2004, 02:20 AM
When we speak for God many will say all manner of evil against us. We are to know that our words are making a difference and that the Kingdom of Heaven is ours. Speaking truth (i.e the word of God) is not offensive yet it is sharper than any two edged sword. We must speak God's word for our words can and will return void but God's words will not. God's word will accomplish those things that it is meant to accomplish. Paul was persecuted and told not to preach. He would have liked to please man but he wanted to please God more. We are in a time like Paul's where speaking the truth within God's word is unwelcomed more and more everyday. We have to become like Paul and please God instead of man when poised with only those two options. God's people will speak up no matter the cost. Everyone else is speaking up and coming out of the closet--why not God's people--the Christians!

Raithlin
9th July 2004, 04:17 AM
Yes, we are too politically correct, but we shouldn't be given a licence to offend people either. That said, I believe we should not be trading our beliefs and values just so we don't offend people, either.

Moros
11th July 2004, 09:36 PM
"We" aren't. The media and government institutions are forcing it on "us."

Neal
8th October 2004, 04:07 PM
Political correctness makes people sound stupid. Of course, so does hateful name-calling. Matter of fact, listen to this prayer (http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/wright.htm) by Joe Wright... he totally knew how to get under America's skin.

wellab
8th October 2004, 11:30 PM
Is political correctness going too far? Are we bending our beliefs and morals just so we don't offend people? Are we accepting groups that we disagree with, letting them have a voice and remaining silent just to avoid conflict?
I think this political correctness thing has gotten out of hand and been distorted by whacko feminists and gay people so they "Feel" better about themselves. It is all a touchy feely thing now. No one hardly seems to worry about what God wants us to do. They just worry about numero uno and how they look to others.

It's sad.
:prayer:

just_dance
8th October 2004, 11:41 PM
Yes I'm not afraid to say anything about my faith my family says that I wear my faith on my sleve. One time I yelled at this boy in frount of his friend and half the calss just satnding up for my faith. Most people know in my classes that if you are friends with me you have to if not belive respect my belifes. A boy how I know lernt that the hard way. So even since he just says he is a athiest and leaves it at that. he has lost to many debats about it he gave up. I think people should stand up a friend of mine lost faith because she didn't do just that. I pray people would just stand up and be proud of there belifes

cenimo
9th October 2004, 12:17 AM
A society can not have both pc and free speech.
When free speech loses out to pc it ceases to be a free society.

Zoomer
12th October 2004, 11:33 AM
I do not feel that we should be free to say whatever we want. There is such a thing as tacted, and we should exercise it. However, I think the craze of political correctness has taken it overboard.

Oblivious
12th October 2004, 01:06 PM
We are absolutely too "Politically Correct". We should be able to speak as we please, not just saying what's acceptable to society.

k
12th October 2004, 11:04 PM
P.C. is an ingenius tool of White upper class society because it's main thrust is to forbid conversation about the very topics that group is guilty of.

I do what is possible to listen/feel for the leading of the Holy Spirit, and if I am led to say something, it is said. God's Truth is almost ALWAYS offensive to us, but facing that Truth is ALWAYS less painful than trying to avoid it.

Jesus was anything but politically correct, and thank God.:)

Peace

Maeyken
12th October 2004, 11:48 PM
I think people get too caught up in worrying what is the "proper" term to use, since politically correct terms seem to change every day! I also think it depends whether a certain term is used to discriminate against people, or to avoid offensive terms.

CSMR
13th October 2004, 12:50 AM
Hmm; the first two options are strangely similar.

vlinder
15th October 2004, 09:20 PM
To Life Immortal

I hate political correctness. It is a refuge for cowards. I should and do say whatever I want. This doesn't mean being obnoxious, but being truthful. If people know where I stand, they can decide whether to be with me or not. I would like people to be as honest with me. Dont use silly phrases like vertically challenged for short or weight impaired for fat. I'm fat and short, lol! :D

Peace and Long Life
~*~ Balafenn ~*~

waterbear
15th October 2004, 11:17 PM
The wording was a bit confusing to me... and perhaps my position is a bit more complicated. I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but it's polite to only express that opinion if it won't offend someone (unless directly asked). I don't agree with laws punishing people who speak their opinion unasked and offensive - being offensive opposes one's interests in and of itself.

CSMR
15th October 2004, 11:21 PM
I think we are too politically correct, but not everyone should be able to say whatever he wants.

Serenity Now!
16th October 2004, 12:07 AM
I still can't get used to my children sitting "criss cross apple sauce" or Pretzle sticks, instead of Indian Style. So, Yes being PC has gotten out of hand.

Lael_Rapier
16th October 2004, 12:31 AM
People should be able to say whatever they want. That is our freedom of speech in the United States. Political correctness is a vile invention and if people need to get offended, that's their problem. There are consequences, though, like liable and slander.
If we taught our children to have manners and be kind, like our Lord asked, we wouldn't have to worry about it, now would we?
Oh, and Political Correctness was not a tool of the White Upper Class... that just sounds absurd and is conspiracy-theory junk.

P.S. Rev. Wright's prayer was very nice! :D

hazeleyes80
16th October 2004, 12:57 AM
Everyone is so PC these days that a) you can't tell how anyone really feels about anything and b) people without PC views have to be afraid to state them for fear of violence or being slapped with some kind of horrible label. It's very frustrating. I often feel like I have to bite my tongue.

Rising Tree
16th October 2004, 01:05 AM
interesting.. i read an article today comparing modern business language to the language of communism.. and of course.. ironically, their similarities.
Word is becoming quite a powerful tool, allowing us to mask whatever behind words that are more acceptable on the surface. And i guess it all links back to 'not to offend people' line in Droobie's post.
Emphasis on 'human right' right?The two have a lot of similarities: large in size, full of bureaucracy, patronization of authority, micromanagement of the subordinates, and not-so-occasional oppression of human rights.

I voted no to the poll. My signature explains the reason. "PC"-bashing is often used as a tool to bash the opinions that one disagrees with.

Angeldove97
16th October 2004, 01:54 AM
I value the fact that I live in a society that I can basically say whatever I want when I want to say it. But it's always been that society teaches us what is proper to say and what's not. I'm also tired of people being offended by every little thing... C*H*I*L*L O*U*T!!! ^_^

FreeGrace
17th October 2004, 04:50 PM
Political correctness in the UK is a joke.Extremists are protected eg its ok to preach hatred towards jews or christians but you dare not say a word out of place about muslims. Sad times indeed.

sammipher
17th October 2004, 11:38 PM
I voted yes...if we have freedom of speech...why are so many people getting sued over stupid stuff that they say....these days you could be the most PC person there is and still offend someone with what you say, it's terrible.

Hisbygrace
18th October 2004, 11:59 AM
I believe as Christians we should always agree with what God's word says. But, I find (myself included) that too often we look the other way to keep from offending a group or individual. We are to judge no man, but we are to share with all men the truths that the Holy Spirit reveals to us. If what the Spirit gives us to say is not accepted, then we are to move on and remember it is not us that is being rejected, but Christ who indwells us.

2Timothy2
18th October 2004, 07:54 PM
Political correctness is just another form of tyranny. Is everyone entitled to his opinion? Of course he is. Is every opinion as valid as the next? Of course not. Truth is truth, and whether anyone believes the truth or not, does not make it untrue. Tolerance? Take a look at what passes for tolerance today. Embracing sin as normal and worthy behavior. Intolerance is defined as pointing out sin. Just let this trend continue and we will see Christianity suffering as it did in the first and second centuries.

It is a shame, and makes me sick to my stomach, that so many Chrisitans give way to PC. The Gospel is definately not PC. If you don't believe me on that, read it again.

jcright
17th November 2004, 10:48 AM
Yes! We are WAY too sensitive. I hate having to sugar coat my words.

Philled-one
17th November 2004, 11:30 AM
If politcal correctness means having to compromise your beliefs then it is wrong. If it menas showing repsct for others then it is right.

* kittie *
17th November 2004, 12:17 PM
This all really sickens me. :sick:

Sugarcoat? Better to offend? Freedom of speech?

bah...People are too obsessed with PERSONAL rights, that we forgot the person next to us are human too.
I'm sorry, just cause you don't agree with someone doesn't mean you have to "share the truth" in a blatant way.

I think one person mentioned in love...and I agree with that.

And from a personal standpoint...you watching your words doesn't mean you're agreeing with someone's lifestyle. I think what a lot of people are thinking about in this thread is gays.
Okay...so I agree as far as what it says in god's word.

But why not, instead of opening our mouths without thinking, come to understand the person.
No, I'm not saying accept it as right or whatever.
But listen to them. There is a lot more to something than what you see in front of you.

Besides, you can't judge something you don't understand or give ear to.
And from personal experience...
I have had better chance of really talking to someone who was gay when I was just a friend to that person(s).
Several years back, I was also in a position of evangelism to the homosexual community in Dallas. Now that didn't go so well. In fact, most of the time, it didn't go so well.
Only when a team member was open...it went well. Obviously not a change immediately, cause there's more to it then that.
But the times when we were shut off within seconds where when a team member would start off by being critical.
So....ya.
If you really want to reach out to someone, careful with what you say.


Anyways...about being PC...

I think that there really is no one correct way to say something. Like in my social problems class, my teacher said that one lady wanted to be called African-Amercian, while another wanted to be called black.
Really, I think we need to be sensitive to individual needs.
If someone prefers one way, how hard is it for you do grant their wish?
But being so paranoid over the matter isn't necessary either. Just be aware I guess...

And the whole suing issue...
lol
hmmm...Personally, I'm not obsessed with titles myself.
People who sue just to sue...well...o.O

But this whole thing about "well I'm right so I'll tell you like it is"...
>_<

Ellie022
17th November 2004, 05:54 PM
yes, it has gone mad, its very hard to express your opinions sometimes because you might 'accidentially' say soemthing that might offend someone. people are too easily offended in today's world, they cannot take a joke.

El_Ayin
18th November 2004, 01:44 PM
Don't worry about being politically correct.

Worry about being scripturally correct.

El_Ayin

englishmuppet
18th November 2004, 04:17 PM
And from a personal standpoint...you watching your words doesn't mean you're agreeing with someone's lifestyle. I think what a lot of people are thinking about in this thread is gays.
Okay...so I agree as far as what it says in god's word.

So it's ok to go and tell people to kill gays now? This is the only time when groups such as outrage have complained about homophobic stuff. It's different to being opposed as to influencing others to being opposed. Just how some people say having gay people on TV makes other people gay... which is rubbish.

If you want to talk about not having freedom of speech, just look at America... Gays have such freedom of speech there don't they?

faith renewal
20th November 2004, 05:08 AM
One thing that annoys me about this subject has to do with music. I'm on the worship team at my church and we have to change all the songs that say "man" or use male pronouns to non-gender specific words. I think this is a little over the top. "Man" refers to mankind, and does not just mean male! GET OVER IT!

Buttermilk
20th November 2004, 01:24 PM
I voted yes, although I might not go as far as to say people can say WHATEVER they like WHEN they like, there is a time and a place for some things sometimes

But yes PC has gone OTT

* kittie *
20th November 2004, 02:05 PM
And from a personal standpoint...you watching your words doesn't mean you're agreeing with someone's lifestyle. I think what a lot of people are thinking about in this thread is gays.
Okay...so I agree as far as what it says in god's word.

So it's ok to go and tell people to kill gays now? This is the only time when groups such as outrage have complained about homophobic stuff. It's different to being opposed as to influencing others to being opposed. Just how some people say having gay people on TV makes other people gay... which is rubbish.

If you want to talk about not having freedom of speech, just look at America... Gays have such freedom of speech there don't they?where did i say anything about killing people?

well for one, I don't understand your post at all.
Second, did you even read mine? seems to me as you read mine wrong...

to make things easier for you, i'm against the opinions of the majority in here. if you find out the majority here...then you'll understand a little more about where i stand.
i never said anything against gays. in fact, i backed them up...

also, concerning freedom of speech. i never said we didn't any. in fact, implied that we have too much, in that we open our mouths to readily to put others down.

sictransitgloriamundi
25th November 2004, 10:37 PM
Is political correctness going too far? Are we bending our beliefs and morals just so we don't offend people? Are we accepting groups that we disagree with, letting them have a voice and remaining silent just to avoid conflict?
i can't believe it...this has been my main topic of conversation lately...and yes i agree the world is striving for the extremes of political correctness. and its affecting so many aspects of society...our morals, values, music, conversations, friendships, relationships, movies, tv shows, books....well everything.
i think we are striving for too much equality in the wrong form...

AdJesumPerMariam
25th November 2004, 10:58 PM
Yes!

JaneKaty13
26th November 2004, 07:25 PM
Yes! :mad: I'm not even allowed to say Merry Christmas at school because it might offend Jews. :doh: But they can say Happy Hanukkah! :mad:
Why the double standard?:scratch:

kleptobismol
26th November 2004, 07:32 PM
i hate political correctness. its entirely one sided. i ( a young female christian caucasian living in texas) cannot say certain things that might insult other ppl of differing viewpoints. yet they ( the minorities) can say anything that pops into their minds. like today i was talking to my friend who's a muslim. i made a remark about Jesus (not in an attempt to convert him but just cuz i thought it relevant to our discussion) he got extremely upset and huffed off. some of our other friends who were close remarked about how rude it was.

~Lynn~
26th November 2004, 07:48 PM
although there are some things where I see politically correct as being a good thing, I think the amount of new terms and changes to speach in recent years to keep people "politically correct" is bordering on absolutely rediculous. People are becoming far too sensitive to the old ways of describing certain things ontop of it all, and in some situations, there are several different ways of saying something, and chances are each way of saying it offends *someone* out there..

There is no making everyone happy.

PaladinGirl
26th November 2004, 08:16 PM
Sometimes I think people aren't politically correct enough.

ajuran
27th November 2004, 08:49 AM
i believe we are to political correct. i wanted to go into politics, but i think its to hard - to really stand as reborn christian. cause there are so many who just look upon what gets them the most votes and not on what is right and just.

and thats the same with working in a goverment office. you want really have a chance to change something. cause if you act in opposite to the politics you will loose your job rather soon. and thats so sad, but whats even worse - is that most of the christians aren´t even interested in politics.

shasta12c
27th November 2004, 01:55 PM
sometimes hehe sometimes we are overboard and sometimes we are under

mrguitarporsche5
27th November 2004, 02:02 PM
here in Idaho a while back we had a a couple of places named squaw butte and squaw creek and they changed the names because those were "politically incorrect" and "derogatory to the indians" Thats a little far. Those names have been there for who nows how long. Nobody meant to be derogatory. so I think its a little far.

draconus71
27th November 2004, 02:33 PM
Yes i believe that we are to politically correct also.;)

confuzzled_one
27th November 2004, 02:39 PM
here in Idaho a while back we had a a couple of places named squaw butte and squaw creek and they changed the names because those were "politically incorrect" and "derogatory to the indians" Thats a little far. Those names have been there for who nows how long. Nobody meant to be derogatory. so I think its a little far.A lot of Indians think squaw means "prostitute" or a part of a female's anatomy but it actually came from a word meaning "younger woman." I don't think it is inherently wrong in a place name, but if someone came up to me and called me a squaw, I'd probably deck them. :)

Now redskins...that bothers me.

DanielJamesSimon
1st December 2004, 11:39 PM
I said "Yes", but I don't really get the answers - I think yes, we should be able to say what we want, and everyone is entitled to an opinion. So I'm not sure why the answers were worded how they were.

At any rate, for me it goes beyond people's opinions and what they say. I know the world is going down the tube when I turn the TV on and see how some fruit cake wants to change a children's classic so that the little girl's Dad doesn't smack her, rather growls at her, "just so that kids know that parents discipline their kids in a bigger variety of ways these days" (or words to that effect). That is absolutely ridiculous, and political correctness gone crazy. When you read about those sorts of things every day in the paper, you know that we are far too politically correct in this day and age.

Fonzy
4th December 2004, 09:19 PM
i think yes.

Locket
4th December 2004, 09:23 PM
YES!! Did you read the article that came out today? Some people don't even say "God" cause it's politically incorrect. And marriage has been defined by some people as "A non same-sex marriage"!!!

indeep
4th December 2004, 09:41 PM
I am seriously sick of political correctness, and the kind of monkeying around with the english language, which is done by bureaucrats and politicians.

If I could pick two words which would come back into polispeak, it would be Yes, and No!

okiemommy26
13th December 2004, 06:51 PM
yes we are too pc for some things.

BubblesRelena
1st January 2005, 06:31 AM
I voted Yes.

~BubblesRelena

allsweetncool
1st January 2005, 09:33 AM
The term Politicly Correct is an abused term this day and age with everyone wanting to not offend anyone and no one sticking up for the truth. On instances such as "Gay Rights" at which the majority of the people in the US are apposed to however poloticians seeking to be "Politicly Correct" are afraid to come down on what they know is wrong. This is a trend that has got to stop!

tweek821
1st January 2005, 02:50 PM
I am so tired of having to be "politically correct!" Like with Christmas, many schools, organizations, etc. won't allow Christ or religion into the holiday because we have to be politically correct and not offend others. I'm so sorry, Christmas is about Christ! It's got His name in the first half of the word!

I mean, if you're someone of a different race, religion, sexual orientation, you should be comfortable enough with yourself to accept what you are and not be offended by a display of someone else's culture or beliefs.

I get so frustrated by those people who say "No Christ in Christmas...it must be Happy Holidays! We don't want to offend anyone!" Yet those people are the same people who tell us to be understanding and accepting of other cultures. So I guess everyone but Christians is okay and when it comes to followers of Christ, forget about it!

I'm sorry that I'm rambling on but this subject gets me so fired up because it's so apparent that this world has an agenda against Christians and yet major media and other liberals act like they don't see it. And then those organizations for "fairness" and "equality" try to shut Christians up while they tear our country apart! No more pledge of alliegance because of "Under God" and no more Ten Commandments on public/government property. I got news for ya! At the top of the Supreme Court building, there is an area of carved sculptures. Right smack dab in the middle is Moses holding...what else?...the Ten Commandments!

Down with political correctness! Let's speak the truth, not watered down lies!

RobWW
1st January 2005, 03:04 PM
No more pledge of alliegance because of "Under God" and no more Ten Commandments on public/government property.

No one ever said to get rid of the Pledge of Allegiance altogether, they only want the under God taken out. Do you realise the only reason it was put in there was because of the Red Scare in the 50's to show that we were much more moral than the "godless communists". Also, how would you feel if a state building was erected and they had a statue with Q'uranic verses on it?

-Rob

pro_odeh
1st January 2005, 05:44 PM
I cant understand why some can tell you what you have to think! Its idiotic!

tweek821
1st January 2005, 09:05 PM
No one ever said to get rid of the Pledge of Allegiance altogether, they only want the under God taken out. Do you realise the only reason it was put in there was because of the Red Scare in the 50's to show that we were much more moral than the "godless communists". Also, how would you feel if a state building was erected and they had a statue with Q'uranic verses on it?

-Rob

I would deal with it like anyone should. I would accept it because it would be important to another person's culture. What did you expect? Me to completely freak out? Like I said before, everyone needs to be comfortable with who they are and accept that there are people of different backgrounds all around them. I would respect their building as much as they should respect ones with Ten Commandments on it.

knownbeforetime
2nd January 2005, 05:02 AM
I think our society is much too politically correct. I can see it when I try to tell someone about God and it's hard because of the way I was taught to talk about such things. I don't want to offend anyone but that can't outweigh making our beliefs known.

Carl the Copt
2nd January 2005, 07:23 AM
Being politically correct is a red herring and always has been. If a person believes in something that is not politically correct, so be it, and let them speak and preach their ideas, I have no problem with that. But I do have problems if politically correct will censure that which is not correct and punish those with ideas that are not mainstream, to me that is the begging of the rot. I am a Roe-v-Wade supporter, in other words I believe it is a good thing that abortion is legal in this country, the USA. That makes me less than PC by the Christian mode of thought, so be it, but I do not care. If people would respect themselves then being PC would be a thing of the past.
Carl the Copt

Gods_MyHope
2nd January 2005, 03:02 PM
I think we are too politically correct. It's rediculious at times.

PioMagnus
2nd January 2005, 08:27 PM
PC language hinders communication. It also keeps people from talking about homosexuals, but allows homosexuals to call us "homophobic" if we don't agree with their lifestyle.

Puh-lease.

God Bless,
Pio Magnus

Organist
2nd January 2005, 10:58 PM
I voted "yes" because I really would like to know if the person next to me really despises me, or not.

faller_g
4th January 2005, 03:14 AM
we are way to politically corect. You cannot say anything without getting in trouble. One thing in Australia with political correctness, we treat aboriginals so differently (laws, like they get more money, houses etc.) we are almost been rasict again (just not mean if u get what im saying.) Also black ppl can insult white people as much as they want and dont get in trouble... this is not fair.
i Dont mean any offensce in this!

jbgordon
9th January 2005, 12:36 PM
Its come to the point now that ANYTHING we say offends someone, which is ridiculous. I Think we should say what we want so long as we arent being bigots or what not.

die2live
11th January 2005, 10:02 PM
We can't hide behind our fear of ruffeling other people's feathers. Our word needs to get out there. We need to "speak the truth in love" but we need to speak it and speak it plainly.

cinni
11th January 2005, 10:44 PM
i think their are times we should be entitled to say what we think

Raheelah
25th January 2005, 01:12 PM
yes we are too politically correct these days esp when schools are banning football for instance in case the pupils get "too muddy or torn clothes" and are then sued by greedy parents :) ;) :D :cool: :P :wave: :thumbsup: :amen: :clap: :hug: :preach: :prayer: :groupray: :bow: :angel:

Roughashlar
25th January 2005, 02:21 PM
I selected Yes, because broadly speaking PC is getting way out of control in some areas.

But it's not really a black and white issue. PC is an extreme version of Tolerance - one could almost say it's Institutionalised Tolerance - and anything institutionalised is usually mad :D .

Tolerance is something we could all do with a lot more of. And that applies to Christians as much as anyone else. The answer, as usual, is :prayer:

brinny
25th January 2005, 07:36 PM
God's wisdom applies here, doesn't it? Cuz it's chock full of 'balance'.

rachewil15
28th January 2005, 07:42 PM
yes, it's like anything coming out of somebody's mouth will offend somebody or someone else.

Alice the Sister
28th January 2005, 07:47 PM
yes -- and being PC does the opposite of what's intended.

skatepixie
28th January 2005, 10:15 PM
I voted yes. See, what people dont get is that changing the name for something doesnt stop hate from happening. Any word/name/whatever can be said with bad intent or with nastyness. The problem is hatred, not the word itself. What people need to do is understand that we are all human and all have rights and then it will be okay. Changing what you call a group will only create confusion and make the problem worse because the energy that could have been spent to actually work towards understanding is spent on doing things that do nothing towards fixing the problem.

S682
30th January 2005, 09:43 PM
Freedom of speech comes to mind here. I do believe speaking a person's mind is fine, as long as a person doesn't act on it negatively. That is what laws are for. Now it is more "thought control" than anything else. My 2¢.... ;)

jd032700
30th January 2005, 10:44 PM
Political correctness is way out of control. Black people can say awful things about white people and nothing is said about it, but if the opposite happens then we are not politically correct. Anyone can say anything about Christians but Christians can't condemn any other religion or actions that are against God without being labeled intolerant. As was said before political correctness is a veiled way of attacking free speech. We can still say whatever we want, but are looked down upon if we hold opinions and thoughs that are not politically correct. I believe that political correctness is a great tool of the devil and a means of silencing those who would condemn evil as evil.

Plan 9
13th April 2005, 01:19 PM
Is political correctness going too far? Are we bending our beliefs and morals just so we don't offend people? Are we accepting groups that we disagree with, letting them have a voice and remaining silent just to avoid conflict?

I've found this thread very late, so I apologize if my post doesn't quite fit where it is, but I answered "yes".
Nevertheless, it comes with the provisio that we should use reasonable courtesy when stating our opinions, especially when doing so on the internet. There's something about being on the internet which can cause most of us, myself included, to sometimes behave very rudely indeed.
In many cases I've seen right here at Christian Forums, I couldn't even use the expression, "Where you born in a barn?" in reply without gravely insulting farm animals.

A call for the same modicum of courtesy which we must all exhibit in real life in order to keep our jobs (or to remain outpatient) is not the same thing as a call for 'political correctness'.

twyrch
13th April 2005, 02:00 PM
Is political correctness going too far? Are we bending our beliefs and morals just so we don't offend people? Are we accepting groups that we disagree with, letting them have a voice and remaining silent just to avoid conflict?

Of course we are!! Does anyone remember this?

Politically Correct Bedtime Stories: Modern Tales for Our Life and Times (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/002542730X/102-0340321-2650547?v=glance)

Here's a snippet from "Little Red Riding Hood":


The wolf said, "You know, my dear, it isn't safe for a little girl to walk through these woods alone." Red Riding Hood said, "I find your sexist remark offensive in the extreme, but I will ignore it because of your traditional status as an outcast from society, the stress of which has caused you to develop your own, entirely valid, worldview. Now, if you'll excuse me, I must be on my way."

GoldenStorm
14th April 2005, 12:10 PM
Yes, we should be able to say what we want (although we shouldn't be outright rude), but that's because everyone is entitled to his opinion. If I think one way, and my friends thinks another, and another thinks another, well, okay, big deal. If everyone thought the same, life would be boring. And not everyone will ever think the same about anything. There's always opposition somewhere.

Miss Spaulding
14th April 2005, 05:10 PM
Holy moly....my brother would have a hay-day with this topic. I myself could go on about this specific subject, but I won't. My opinion is Yes. I think we're way too politically correct.

Jatopian
14th April 2005, 08:10 PM
I recommend the book The Menace of Multiculturalism by Alvin Schmidt. It contains an excellent chapter on "political correctness".
It is but another form of thought control.

Milla
14th April 2005, 08:35 PM
I love how like 50% of the complaints about PC-ness on here are all, "But group X is allowed to say bad things about me, and I can't be a jerk back! SNIFFLE!"

Turning the other cheek indeed. Even if it were true, which it's not. You don't get dragged to death behind a pickup truck for being homophobic. You do get dragged to death for being homosexual. Etc. So somehow, my sympathy is limited.

The PC movement is kind of dumb. Then again, so are people, which is what made the PC movement necessary in the first place. Way too many people can't figure out not to say asinine things about entire classes of humanity all on their own, and need a special vocabulary to help them out.

Overtime_man
14th April 2005, 08:58 PM
Way out of control. Honestly, I think there are people who spend their days doing nothing but looking for opportunities to be offended, and I refuse to cater to such elements. Obviously we shouldn't intentionally use terms that are certain to engender a negative response from a wide range of people, but taking it to an extreme and saying "garbage person" instead of "garbageman" is just asinine.

New_Found_Faith
14th April 2005, 09:25 PM
Is political correctness going too far? Are we bending our beliefs and morals just so we don't offend people? Are we accepting groups that we disagree with, letting them have a voice and remaining silent just to avoid conflict?

It depends on what you mean by 'we.' I think that its wiser to pray for those you want to get to know Christ, and live as an example. You run a risk of offending them, and turning them away from the Church forever if you are too blunt. Another person would tell you the opposite. I think that we spend too much time running our mouths and forget to stop and pray for those we care about. Just my opinion ;) .
Sean C.

Scholar in training
14th April 2005, 09:25 PM
I am offended by these poll results. :mad:

Jatopian
14th April 2005, 09:46 PM
I am offended by these poll results. :mad:That sad song you hear is from the world's smallest violin.:yawn:

Scholar in training
14th April 2005, 09:51 PM
That sad song you hear is from the world's smallest violin.:yawn:
Really? I could've sworn someone was drumming to "The World Turned Upside Down."

joeman1
15th April 2005, 12:33 AM
I believe we are way to politially correct in this world. I think we try and make Christ to soft. I mean he did run the money changers out of the temple. We should be bold enough to do so in our lives and when we see others living in sin.

Lithium Hobo
15th April 2005, 12:35 AM
We should say what we what, when we want, how we want, and to we want. Of course, with people's feelings in mind, but still...

ysl_75
15th April 2005, 02:32 AM
No comment

Lithium Hobo
15th April 2005, 02:34 AM
No comment

More proof that we are too politically correct.

jewishprincess613
28th April 2005, 07:05 PM
I don't think we should be able to say *whatever* we want such as swearing, using G~d's name in vain, or insults, etc. However, our society is definitely too politically correct in that it is difficult to say just about ANYTHING without fear of offending someone out there. I have come to the conclusion that it makes no sense to be politically correct. It doesn't mean one means to be politically INcorrect, but I have realized that no matter WHAT you say, you will always offend someone out there. I figure that I am no longer going to stumble over my words when I say "policeman". I'm not looking for a gender neutral word, I am just going to say policeman as I always have. Somewhere out there a female cop or a feminist is going to be offended, but I am not going to worry about that. I also think that (even though I am not Christian), it is ridiculous that the elementary schools around here can no longer have Christmas concerts. They have "holiday concerts" instead. Sure, that would make sense in say, New York City, but in this little town where 99% of the population is Christian, it just doesn't make sense. We've changed the word "retarded" to "mentally handicapped", which is okay. But NOW, or so I've read in the paper a couple of months ago, it is going to be changed to "intellectually challenged adults." Sorry if I offend anyone, but this girl is sticking with "mentally handicapped". I don't even see the purpose of "African American". I mean, black people are called African-American, yet "white" is good enough for me?? What's up with that. Why aren't I referred to as "European American"? Orrr...why can't we all just be Americans (hmmm...there's a thought!) I can't even really understand the switch from Indian to Native American. I mean, isn't everywhere born here a Native to the country? Indians came here from China long ago, just as whites came here from Europe and blacks came from Africa (life didn't begin in the United States or even North America, ALL of our ancestors came here at one point.) People spend an enourmous amount of time fretting over such things. People need to stop worrying about it, and just relax. As I said, no matter WHAT words you choose, you are going to be offending SOMEONE! One should speak with tact, but there is no reason to be so obsessed every little thing. It is driving me nuts! Ummm...I mean: it is driving me to be an intellectually challenged adult......

purpleunicorn_Andi
28th April 2005, 11:11 PM
a little of both I would say....sometimes I think this PC wave is coming from taking God out of everything, other times it is just polite...but most of it is just petty

Jatopian
29th April 2005, 09:59 PM
It is no less than a form of thought control. People (with a few exceptions like autistics) think in words, and language is the basis of rational thought, another thing separating us from the lower animals. Anyone who has read Orwell's 1984 knows that alteration of language and terminology, whether in the name of prudishness or humorless oversensitivity, is a powerful tool that can only be misused. It goes below limiting free speech; it robs people of the ability to communicate meanings of which the authorities disapprove.
If we call them [ethnic group here] instead of Americans, we unconsciously begin drawing mental demarcations. Culture is not transmitted through genetic makeup, renaming immorality does not make it less sinful, and softening terms does not change facts.

Delta One
29th April 2005, 10:32 PM
Hi Droobie,

I would answer with an emphatic YES!

Whether or not you say it, you're thinking it -- no real difference. You can be sued for just about anything, even saying that "Homosexuality is immoral" could probably get you in a lot of trouble now a days...

Even the President wasn't calling "Christmas" "Christmas" - my assumption just to be politically correct and avoid any Islamic or other religions getting up and saying that calling it Christmas is being intollerant of their views, while at the same time, these religious people are being intollerant Christian's views.

It's almost getting (and IMO past) the stage of being politically correct that it becomes incorrectness. If people don't like what you have to say they can easily ignore it. That said, taking a point of view so far as to incite violence and hatred should not be tolerated. I think it's sad, I mean, there are some comments that are best kept quite, but when you are forced to bend your morals and beliefs just so you don't offend other people with morals and beliefs that your belief says is wrong, IMO, has gone too far. You should be able to point out what's wrong with their beliefs.

Also, another issue that ticks me off is just how little responsibility many people have, i.e. public liability. When people trip on a crack on the path and they sue almost everything they can from the local council. My rebuttal - you should have been looking where you're going. Whatever happened to the good old days when you would get knocked down, just get up and dust yourself off and keep on going? I'm not that old, but I can remember the days.

I slipped in a local shopping store when I was young because of a wet surface and I fell. It hurt, but I just got up and we kept on walking. I dream of a day when others will do the same thing. Because of public liability, one of the only skating rings, in all of Newcastle, Skateline, was closed because people sued when they fell over and Skateline just couldn't afford the cost of public liability -- I don't know what happened to it now. Almost every time I went there I slipped over, once or twice I got accidentally tripped - but I enjoyed it. People should grow up and take responsibility for their own actions. This is one topic that I argue very passionately about because I feel strongly about it.

kissybug27
30th April 2005, 12:38 AM
I put not sure cause my answer wasn't there. My answer would have been ....in some ways yes and in some ways no....lol.........I don't like politically correct terms like when referring to color of skin. I'm an American I was born in the USA and consider myself a native even though I'm not indian. If someone is of a dark color skin and I don't know what to call it here cause someone always gets offended but I don't like the terms like Asian-American or African-American cause if you are born here you are just "American" now if you came to the US from Africa and became a US citizen then yes you are a African-Amercian but otherwise just American.

Another politically correct term that I don't like is Spouse.......why can't I just say he's my husband. It's not a law here yet but it's coming.

But I'm sure there are some politically correct terms that are good .....I just can't think of any at the moment.

GodFlute2
24th October 2005, 02:05 PM
being politically correct can be ok, but eople take it to extremes today.

firestar
4th November 2005, 08:34 PM
Yeah sometimes we are. We try so hard not to injure anyone else's rights that we often trample on others. I feel I should be allowed to say Merry Christmas, however; most workplaces won't let you. That's ridiculous.

Cooter
4th November 2005, 11:01 PM
Yes, I think political correctness has gone way too far. In some ways it may be good. It's not PC to use racial slurs and I agree with that part of it. But the part I have a problem with is that political correctness tries to change that way people think. In an attempt to be tolerant, completely inclusive and non-discriminatory, we (and I use that pronoun very loosely) have made regular words into bad words. We can't/shouldn't say black, indian, short, fat, small, cripple(d), or anything else that might (Lord forbid) single someone out from the billions of other people on this planet. We have to say things like African-American, Native American, height deficient or little person, and handicapped...oh wait...that one changed too...they want to be called handi-capable. BTW a lot of Native Americans are now rejecting that euphemism (and have been for years). They now prefer American Indian, or just Indian. But the media and PC politicians are afraid to switch back. I'll say that again...afraid to switch back!!! Is that not changing how we think? Our "freedom" of speech is gone in this respect. Same goes for a lot of black people. 98% of the ones I have questioned (from all over the US) prefer the title black. The title: African-American is only if you're...and I quote..."rich or famous."--real quote.
It's not blind or deaf or mute anymore, now it's seeing-impaired, hearing-impaired and speech....so on and so on. Anything that might signify which sex you belong to is going out the door too. No he, she, Mr., Mrs., him, her, No no no. Everyone will be addressed as "Comrade [their name here]" like me Comrade Cooter. Sounds familiar doesn't it?...like communist Russia. Socialism is just the politically correct word for Communism.
Why are we trying to cover up who we are...and what makes us different? I don't want to be the same as everyone else. But that's what it's all about...rewording with euphemisms to take the "sting" out of being different...out of being yourself.
God help us

skipper
5th November 2005, 12:15 AM
well said Cooter, couldn't have said it better myself

Cooter
5th November 2005, 02:04 AM
well said Cooter, couldn't have said it better myself
Thanks Skipper!
May God bless you in all ways.......over and over and over again!!!

Lake
5th November 2005, 02:38 AM
check post # 125,as that basically says it all.Hey Cooter.:)

Cooter
5th November 2005, 03:14 AM
Also, another issue that ticks me off is just how little responsibility many people have, i.e. public liability. When people trip on a crack on the path and they sue almost everything they can from the local council. My rebuttal - you should have been looking where you're going. Whatever happened to the good old days when you would get knocked down, just get up and dust yourself off and keep on going? I'm not that old, but I can remember the days.

I slipped in a local shopping store when I was young because of a wet surface and I fell. It hurt, but I just got up and we kept on walking. I dream of a day when others will do the same thing. Because of public liability, one of the only skating rings, in all of Newcastle, Skateline, was closed because people sued when they fell over and Skateline just couldn't afford the cost of public liability -- I don't know what happened to it now. Almost every time I went there I slipped over, once or twice I got accidentally tripped - but I enjoyed it. People should grow up and take responsibility for their own actions. This is one topic that I argue very passionately about because I feel strongly about it.
This is another thing that I can't stand. You really said it there, Delta One. Personal responsibility is gone. And as long as there are greedy, unscrupulous lawyers out there that will take these cases, it won't be back. But it's not just the lawyers, it's the low-lives suing because of their stupidity. It's all of society. Well, I can't say all. But this just makes me sick. Now manufacturers must put warnings on everything--to protect themselves from the painfully less intellegent, yet greedy, part of the population. Soon, knife manufacturers will have to put a warning on their products..."Do Not Insert Pointed-End Into Eye," so they don't get sued by that one guy that wonders: "What would happen if I just....OUCH!!! OWW OWOW!!!!". My warning would read: "If you're bleeding, you did something wrong!" When did common-sense go out of style? People can't think for themselves anymore? Well, they can...it just goes back to personal responsibilty and liability. If the results are good, then ok. If the results are bad, then it must be someone else's fault. Time to find a lawyer and sue that someone. Now I'm not saying that suing is always bad. There are times that it is called for. Like someone getting hurt (or killed) because of someone else's complete negligence. Let's say a drunk driver in big truck going 48 mph, plows into the back of your little Honda while you're stopped at a red-light. If you weren't killed, now you have a totaled Honda, broken bones, lacerations, and huge hospital bills. And then neck and back pain the rest of your life. Because someone wanted to drive while intoxicated. And you just wanted to go out for a bite to eat. These lawsuits can also be faked--injury exaggeration.
If you ever get a chance, do a search for a book entitled: The Death of Common Sense. Sorry I can't remember the author, but a good search should turn it up. It's an awesome book. It talks about all of this, basically.
God bless you all,
Cooter

Texas Lynn
5th November 2005, 03:23 AM
The term Politicly Correct is an abused term this day and age with everyone wanting to not offend anyone and no one sticking up for the truth. On instances such as "Gay Rights" at which the majority of the people in the US are apposed to however poloticians seeking to be "Politicly Correct" are afraid to come down on what they know is wrong. This is a trend that has got to stop!

They have a right to say whatever they want. They do not have a right to say it and to be free of criticism for doing so.

Cooter
5th November 2005, 03:52 AM
check post # 125,as that basically says it all.Hey Cooter.:)
:wave: Thanx Lake
God bless you

cygnusx1
5th November 2005, 10:39 AM
I am ;)

crusader4peace
12th November 2005, 10:28 AM
im not sure. politics is not my piece of cake.

sing4him
12th November 2005, 10:41 AM
I didn't go through all of the posts so don't know if this has already been put in by someone else but this picture sums up it for me!!! :clap: :thumbsup: :clap:

cygnusx1
12th November 2005, 02:18 PM
i am .........................................................not! :D

sing4him
12th November 2005, 03:27 PM
i am .........................................................not! :D

:amen:

jennistout
8th December 2005, 01:43 AM
As a teacher I was told not to tell children to sit "Indian Style" because it was not politically correct. But EVERYONE knows exactly what that means when you say it. I don't understand why people would be offended by this statement.

lonelyflower
8th December 2005, 07:52 PM
I don't understand the second option. we are not politically correct because people have a right to express opinions?

I think as a whole we are too politically correct but we shouldnt be, so many things we're not allowed to say, there are too many taboo subjects...

greenjeans
10th December 2005, 02:14 AM
yes way too much pc. the pc is so bad sometime I find hard to object to things fearing I will be ostricized for speaking up.

MissLB
10th December 2005, 05:48 AM
No. I think it's good that we challenge our ingrained ideas, that we are open and accepting to lots of ideas and ways of life. I don't think we are too "politically correct." I think common language should be examined, and ill-fitting or hurtful things should be tossed out.

MissLB
10th December 2005, 05:55 AM
I haven't heard this phrase in years, like about 30 years ;) . I refer to it as "sit cross-legged", and in my exercise classes that is what the instructors always say, too.

As a teacher I was told not to tell children to sit "Indian Style" because it was not politically correct. But EVERYONE knows exactly what that means when you say it. I don't understand why people would be offended by this statement.

lonelyflower
11th December 2005, 07:02 PM
I haven't heard this phrase in years, like about 30 years ;) . I refer to it as "sit cross-legged", and in my exercise classes that is what the instructors always say, too.

I've never heard of it being called 'indian style'. It's always been coss-legged. I usually sit in a lotus position anyway...

Waterhouse
11th December 2005, 10:22 PM
Mebbe it's not that we shouldn't offend people... but people are becoming too sensitive over things.

*Starlight*
1st January 2006, 01:25 PM
I don't know about political correctness, but I think we should try to avoid doing or saying things which hurt others...

Redeemed_Warrior
1st January 2006, 01:30 PM
I think it depends on whats right, Politics is the domain of sweet talkers :D

I do what i know to be right, no matter what others think of my view :)

GreyWing
1st January 2006, 02:46 PM
Yes, by God, yes!!! I hate PC. It's a festering sore on society. As I've said before:

Political correctness is tolerance on acid.
Remember: acid is bad.

*Starlight*
1st January 2006, 02:48 PM
Yes, by God, yes!!! I hate PC. It's a festering sore on society. As I've said before:



Political correctness is tolerance on acid.

Remember: acid is bad.

What is political correctness, actually? I don't really know what's the definition of it...

HolyGuardianAngels
1st January 2006, 04:53 PM
Is political correctness going too far? Are we bending our beliefs and morals just so we don't offend people? Are we accepting groups that we disagree with, letting them have a voice and remaining silent just to avoid conflict?


YES, YES, YES!!!

It is most definately, going way too far!!!
And we ALL are, also, entitled to our opinions!!:D :D :D :D









God Bless
:angel:

SharonL
1st January 2006, 09:24 PM
It really isn't about being correct - the end result of it all is to rid our society of anything connected to our Christian heritage. We are losing our heritage one word at a time.

The ACLU and the liberals are totally ruining our country. It really saddens my heart.

We should try to go to another country and change their beliefs - we would be thrown out on our ear. But come to our country and complain and these judges with no backbone will force the 95% of people believing one way to conform to the 5% of the nuts trying to change our culture. What has happened to the "We the people?"

Sorry - I get really worked up about this loss of our heritage.

Mycroft
2nd January 2006, 12:50 PM
I have always been a "glass is 1/2 full" type of guy. I chose to be happy and content in most situations.

I also am not the guy who lets people get their brand of liberal religious policy be the ONLY voice heard. I apoligize to no one for standing firm on the Bible.

I hold that if you label yourself as a Democrat or Republican, it is a "whole package" arrangement. If you profess to be a Democrat, for instance, you are a supporter of doing away with God in our society because he isn't politically correct. It also means that you are in favor of killing the innocents before we can hear their voices. I find the most hypocritical statement ever made is "I'm Democrat and a Christian".

Republicans on the other hand need to be more willing to stand up to the shouting liberals and say, "I stand on the Bible and in God we trust!" :amen:

Rhoni10
2nd January 2006, 01:07 PM
I think we are too politically correct however I also think freedom of speech has gone too far in some instances.

SharonL
2nd January 2006, 01:50 PM
I have always been a "glass is 1/2 full" type of guy. I chose to be happy and content in most situations.

I also am not the guy who lets people get their brand of liberal religious policy be the ONLY voice heard. I apoligize to no one for standing firm on the Bible.

I hold that if you label yourself as a Democrat or Republican, it is a "whole package" arrangement. If you profess to be a Democrat, for instance, you are a supporter of doing away with God in our society because he isn't politically correct. It also means that you are in favor of killing the innocents before we can hear their voices. I find the most hypocritical statement ever made is "I'm Democrat and a Christian".

Republicans on the other hand need to be more willing to stand up to the shouting liberals and say, "I stand on the Bible and in God we trust!" :amen:

Yea!!!!!! Well spoken:clap: :amen:

lgintrnj
4th January 2006, 08:58 AM
my Lord is first in my life and if it offends someone, I cannot say im sorry. It offends me that the 10 commandments and school prayer are no longer welcome in schools that my taxes are supporting,
this is a pet peeve with me so i bes t wish you all a good day with our Lord

Sabra
5th January 2006, 09:26 AM
Dear Droobie,

Is political correctness going too far? Are we bending our beliefs and morals just so we don't offend people? Are we accepting groups that we disagree with, letting them have a voice and remaining silent just to avoid conflict?

Most definitely! There is some type of talk that should be silenced, such as racism, sexism, terrorism, etc, etc, that could harm members of the society. But particuarly with regards to religious matters and other controversial matters such as abortion, homosexuality, etc, etc, people should be able to state what they believe without facing fear of your opponent suing the socks off you. If you give it off you should be able to receive it - you're going to receive it so you might as well give it off first.

I believe that those people who are voicing their views are intolerant of those who oppose them when they speak up for what they believe and occassionally point out errors in what their opponents are about. Some time last year or the year before, several pastors were sent to jail (I think) because they pointed out errors in Islam which "offended" some Muslims who were there. Quite ridiclous. No one forces people to listen to anything - if they don't like what they hear, then they are free to leave. Similarly when applied to this forum, if people don't like what they read, then move on and ignore it. If what they read is rubbish or based in ignorance, then people will acknowledge this.

Personally, I think you should be able to say what you want and when you want to so long as it doesn't incite hatred or violence. Even so, people should have the sense to act properly regardless of what they hear or read.

gal4God
5th January 2006, 03:10 PM
yea we are.

eaglex
8th January 2006, 09:33 PM
Being a victim of not being PC . I would sue some people if I could prove it. Someday I do believe GOD will give back to the belivers who have been victimezed by Political Correctness and give those who offened HIS chidren a spiritual kick in the pants.

chrissieanne
9th January 2006, 01:04 AM
I put no sure but i believe the world has become to politically correct and yes it has gone to far ....i put not sure because i dont agree with the rest of the answer on the yes because i dont believe we should say things that would offend. I am not politically correct but there are terms that i do not use just out of respect of a person or because it may be a word i dont like

seamonster
9th January 2006, 01:59 AM
Yes.

Sabertooth
9th January 2006, 03:26 AM
I chose "Yes, we should be able to say what we want," but that is not entirely true. There should have been another option, which I would have preferred, "Yes, we should be able to say what we NEED TO."

There is no value in negatively criticizing subjective qualities like hairstyle and taste in food. It only hurts feelings with no edifying value. But serious OBJECTIVE issues, like eternity and health, NEED to be shared IN LOVE, even if they are not popular. They ARE, in that context, seriously edifying.

ellieberrie
9th January 2006, 01:54 PM
The thing I believe we are going to far with is Christmas! I believe in freedom of speech, let people say how they feel, but Christmas IS a Christian holiday!!!!!!! Things are going to far when "some people" are trying to take away our holiday~ this is a Chrisian holiday, it belongs to us, the believers who want to celebrate the birth of Christ! How is it even possible to take Christ out of Christmas? It makes me sad when thier out there saying they have a right not to have to hear about Christ, God and other religous things(court houses, schools, everywhere public), becouse were is my right to these things? If people have a right to freedom of speech (which I believe they do), why don`t they also believe that I have the same right? Or does everyone have a right as long as it`s not about God? I`d really like for someone to (calmly, and in a respectful manner, no arguing/just your views and opinion) explain this to me. You can PM me if you`d rather~I don`t want to debate I just want your ideas.~Thank you and God bless

iamjcs
9th January 2006, 02:04 PM
I put "YES", but I disagree with statement of poll :
"Yes, we should be able to say what we want" OR "No, everyone is entitled to an opinion"
What we say (as OUR opinion) should NOT be regarded as having the same effect on everyone else as stating supported facts.

Moluku
10th January 2006, 09:46 PM
We are too politically correct. When we lose focus of the real issues and become consumed as to whether all races are being represented correctly in a statue or are there enough women in the media I have an issue.

Moluku
10th January 2006, 10:07 PM
NM

Republican1Big1Mouth
11th January 2006, 07:53 PM
Excuse me i will say under god in the pledge of allegieance screw the gothic kids , i will put a blow up jesus doll a my lawn at christmas , screw the gothic adults i believe what ever i want ,dont you dare try to make me deny what i believe

Republican1Big1Mouth
11th January 2006, 07:55 PM
i agree with iamjcs it doesnt make sense

Soul_Golem
12th January 2006, 12:18 AM
Merriam-Webster Online defines politically correct as:

"conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated"

http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

I define it as a superiority complex.

Selznak
12th January 2006, 01:18 AM
I would say that we are generally too politically correct. Political correctness can have a stifling impact on free speech and hence, the pursuit of truth.

Miriyah
12th January 2006, 11:25 AM
Bland words used in order not to offend seems harmless. But then it turns to censorship, and that is sometimes a good thing, sometimes not, but then it leads to constant walking on egg shells or watching to make sure no one breaks any eggs and it leads to conflict, so what was the point in the first place.

And when you are only politically correct to the benefit of some and not all...then it is all just a ruse.

My skin is not WHITE. I have never been able to track my heritage back to the Caucasus Mountains. Yet, European American is never on any of the forms I fill out.
No one is saying Notre Dame University should change its mascot. Does nobody care that Irish Americans are being stereotyped and maligned? (I do not actually think they are. If it were the Fighting Islanders and showed a Tiki warrior with a spear it would have already been axed.)
Political correctness is not only stupid, unnecessarily restrictive, arbitrary and objective, it is also an attempt to have WORDS change REALITY. Does calling a mentally disabled person "developmentally disabled" instead of "retarded" change anything?

hungryman
21st January 2006, 06:11 AM
most definitely this society has struggled do hard to protect the rights of atheists and others that they are taking away the rights of christians by not allowing us to profess the very god for which we live..trying to take christ out of christmas to avoid hurting peoples feelings how about the feelings of believers ......i dont condone hurting people in anyway but this country was built upon christianity by christians and i dont think its fair to take away my right to confess jesus in order to spare someones feelings thats just my opinion

whimsyjean
21st January 2006, 11:18 PM
Way too politically correct. Mother, may I? Enough already.

Followers4christ
28th January 2006, 07:55 PM
I agree that we should stand strong and do not compromise our belief or morals.Because i've stayed strong in my faith i've been called sexest,racist,bigot and a hater.Because of my views on Homosexuality,Abortion and men being the head of the household.We as Christians should not bend Gods word to make others happy we should tell it as it is.God Bless you all.

YC Bearzie
17th February 2006, 11:30 PM
I heard on the news the other day that they wanna change the name of Hot Cross Buns because it offensive to other religions!!! How can that be?

*Starlight*
18th February 2006, 05:16 AM
I agree that we should stand strong and do not compromise our belief or morals.Because i've stayed strong in my faith i've been called sexest,racist,bigot and a hater.Because of my views on Homosexuality,Abortion and men being the head of the household.We as Christians should not bend Gods word to make others happy we should tell it as it is.God Bless you all.
I don't think that there's anything wrong with just having such opinions. But if some people try to force such a point of view on other people, then it's wrong...

UncleRicky
23rd February 2006, 01:10 PM
Is political correctness going too far?

Probably,

By all means speak the truth. But try and do it the way Jesus did...

Luk 4:22 And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, Is not this Joseph's son?

Cheers,
Rick

http://unclerickysperigrinations.blogspot.com/

YourNameIsHoly
24th February 2006, 10:12 PM
My goal this year is to stop being so afraid of what others think of me. I always sensor what I truely want to say to others because I don't want them to feel uncomfortable. I am trying to stop that.

Godslilgurlalways
26th February 2006, 11:04 AM
In a way I am not sure. I would say long as God agrees what your saying is ok:)

handmaiden97
20th June 2006, 07:17 PM
I think it is good to be politically correct and not to cause offense to people especially when we are refering to people groups or color of skin....

but at the same time political correctness has gone to far, when we cant pray at graduation, wish people a merry christmas and have to act as though we beleive being homosexual is just alright. It bugs me when I attend a community service and they keep refering to God as Almighty creator and wont refer to God as He as the bible does, due to the fact that some people want god to be a woman. Also when a pastor of a church tells the couple he is marrying that in order to be polically correct she can only have her dad give her a way if the grooms mom gives him away.....then yes we are getting way to politically correct.

ChavaK
20th June 2006, 11:34 PM
I think we should treat all people fairly, but we should also have the right to express our beliefs and opinions
and not worry about having to be "PC".

4EverBlessed
20th May 2007, 10:18 PM
I said no, we're not. But I would rather have had the choice of "it depends". Ones beliefs should not be compromised in any situation, but at the same time noone should be intentionally offensive to someone else simply because they feel they have the right to say what they want.

CrystalBrooke
22nd May 2007, 04:46 PM
I chose no for some odd reason, I meant yes. Political correctness is a load of crap IMO.

stealingheaven
23rd May 2007, 05:31 PM
I don't think that I'm politically correct, I say what I genuinely think, feel and believe yet am conscious of the way I express myself. I wouldn't ever intentionally offend anybody, however I won't conform either to the way the world would have me express myself and opinions.
One bug bug of mine is 'Winterville'!! I mean for goodness sake Christmas is Christmas NOT winterville!! That to me is PC gone too far.

If Not For Grace
25th May 2007, 02:34 PM
being PC does not change views...Just cause I use the term trans-gender or mail carrier or Native American etc does little to hide any prejudices I may have. When Politicians can be criticised for they way they compliment someone when "articulate" becomes offensive to a race perhaps that race is guilty of being oversensitive.

And when did we become ashamed of being Housewives, Secretaries now we must be SAHM or Administrative Assistants, callem custodial or housekeepers but the work is still janitorial and it's a good honest living.

Redd Foxx used to say "if there were blue people on earth somebody would hate em". People need to grow a little thicker skins. We need to teach Love not PC.

humblet
1st June 2007, 08:45 PM
Yes, political correctness has really gotten out of control here in the U.S.

Of course, we all need to watch what we say and try to not be offensive and/or obnoxious, but for the most part P.C. is not beneficial.........

vic74
10th June 2007, 02:22 AM
YES

redheadskiangel
13th June 2007, 12:51 AM
I think that we have definitely gotten too politically correct

bdfhjlnprtvxz
13th June 2007, 01:27 AM
Well, it shouldn't be "political correctness" that everyone should huff-and-buff about, but rather, "tactfulness." If people knew how to be tactful of each other, then PC wouldn't have to be needed. Granted, this is a VERY simplified view of it, but, PC is out of control. Everyone whines these days, "oh, you're offending me" , blah, blah, blah... people need to toughen up a little, and realize that not everything's going to go their way... -_-' ... k i'm done lol

kingoffools13
15th June 2007, 09:55 AM
I'm not, however many people are anymore.

K
O
F

Too P.C.

lyonguard
5th July 2007, 07:14 PM
Everyone is too easily offended today. One group wants to be politically correct and then another group follows with the "me to" attitude and then another and another until it has become silly.

faith guardian
6th July 2007, 10:10 AM
Yes, we are too easily offended, and need to learn not to be.

Rossiter
6th July 2007, 10:16 PM
Well, it shouldn't be "political correctness" that everyone should huff-and-buff about, but rather, "tactfulness." If people knew how to be tactful of each other, then PC wouldn't have to be needed. Granted, this is a VERY simplified view of it, but, PC is out of control. Everyone whines these days, "oh, you're offending me" , blah, blah, blah... people need to toughen up a little, and realize that not everything's going to go their way... -_-' ... k i'm done lol
:thumbsup: A lack of tact seems to be the main thing that causes problems. It's okay to disagree, but not being a dolt about it helps a lot.

darenlesterministries
22nd July 2007, 05:31 PM
Ive little respect for folks that claim to be christians that worry about what others think. I believe we should preach the truth and let the chips fall where they may. Because if we are truely saved,unless someone told us what we needed to hear,then we ourselves wouldnt be saved now. I believe it shows more love to stand for the truth than to fall for just anything,so we can just get along. Chrisitnity is to bring us to repentence and conversion so we can be saved from the wrath of God to come. And unless the church starts doing its job then we are going to lose alot of our precious loved ones to the enemy.When Christ comes back for his church.Better to tell them now then to have them lost during the tribulation.
Love
Rev.Daren.S.Lester

GodsAmbassador2Nicolette
4th September 2007, 06:11 PM
Yes we are too politically correct. Christians have been silent for far too long.

JPPT1974
8th September 2007, 04:26 PM
More than we care to admit

gal4God
8th September 2007, 08:09 PM
deff

micbmac
9th September 2007, 11:49 PM
I don't know about being "politically corrcect" but I do think we need to take other people's feelings into considersation when we say things. especially when we are talking to or about poeple of other races and religions. I just don't want to hurt anyones feelings, but at the same time they have to take into consideration that we don't know all about their cuture and customs etc and what we might accidently do or say something that could possibly offend them.

Kirkhaven
11th January 2008, 01:00 AM
Especially when they grade your papers down and change bible translations as a reaction to it.

NostalgicGranny
11th January 2008, 02:00 PM
yes