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JustinWilliams
4th October 2004, 07:39 PM
Hi folks :wave:


As I was visiting the Old Lutheran website I noticed that one of their slogans was "Sin Boldly". I would be interested in reading some of your responses as to what this means to you as Lutherans. I know that it is associated with the Lutheran view of man's nature but would enjoy reading more about it :)

God Bless

Justin

Bradford
4th October 2004, 08:13 PM
Testing

Willy
4th October 2004, 10:28 PM
Bold sinning implies that life is filled with ambiguity. Sometimes our choices are between bad and worse. "Sin boldly" means that we should walk into the future boldly knowing that whatever way we choose we will be in sin. But we also know that forgiveness will be ours nonetheless, even if we have chosen wrongly. It's the Lutheran way of embracing the complexity of life and God's goodness at the same time.

Bradford
5th October 2004, 01:40 AM
Testing
FYI, I deleted the first thread with this title when the database crash corrupted it.

Caelum
5th October 2004, 04:38 AM
I always figured that it referred to actions/beliefs that Lutherans uphold that are viewed as sinful by the RCC...especially concerning Martin Luther's marriage and alcohol drinking...but that makes a lot more sense than what I thought :) lol

KagomeShuko
5th October 2004, 05:51 PM
Hi folks :wave:


As I was visiting the Old Lutheran website I noticed that one of their slogans was "Sin Boldly". I would be interested in reading some of your responses as to what this means to you as Lutherans. I know that it is associated with the Lutheran view of man's nature but would enjoy reading more about it :)

God Bless

Justin
I think it refers to the fact that we know we sin, but to go ahead with life because we know that God has abudant Grace. . .but I some seem to try to Interpret it as the more we sin, the more God forgives, so just go ahead and sin. However, I think it means that we just shouldn't worry so much about the sins. . .like Caelum said, too, probably in part of the things on which the RCC calls sinful, too.

Stein Auf!
Bridget

Caelum
5th October 2004, 07:07 PM
. . .but I some seem to try to Interpret it as the more we sin, the more God forgives, so just go ahead and sin.


I wouldn't go that far.. .

KagomeShuko
5th October 2004, 10:21 PM
I wouldn't go that far.. .
No, I don't go for that at all! I've just seen some try to justify that!

Stein Auf!
Bridget

Protoevangel
6th October 2004, 12:20 AM
If you are a preacher of grace, then preach a true and not a fictitious grace; if grace is true, you must bear a true and not a fictitious sin. God does not save people who are only fictitious sinners. Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly, for he is victorious over sin, death, and the world. As long as we are here [in this world] we have to sin. This life is not the dwelling place of righteousness, but, as Peter says, we look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. It is enough that by the riches of God's glory we have come to know the Lamb that takes away the sin of the world. No sin will separate us from the Lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day. Do you think that the purchase price that was paid for the redemption of our sins by so great a Lamb is too small? Pray boldly--you too are a mighty sinner. God calls us to live our faith boldly in this world, without fear of what others may think or of whether we're going to do or say the wrong thing. All of our good works in life are tainted with sin, but we must continue to live out our faith in the world, discussing, caring, and making difficult choices, while even "more boldly" clinging to Christ's righteousness

SPALATIN
6th October 2004, 08:34 AM
God calls us to live our faith boldly in this world, without fear of what others may think or of whether we're going to do or say the wrong thing. All of our good works in life are tainted with sin, but we must continue to live out our faith in the world, discussing, caring, and making difficult choices, while even "more boldly" clinging to Christ's righteousness
I agree 100% I like the quote you added from ML.

CrossWiseMag
6th October 2004, 10:39 AM
"Sin boldly" makes a lot of sense when you consider the context of the statement. Luther was writing to Melancthon, who was beleaguered by doubts about his own ability to do anything right. Luther was just being a good Lutheran: applying Gospel to the terrified conscience. No doubt if Melancthon had asked for permission to sin boldly, Luther would have hit him with a harsh dose of reality in the Law.

CSMR
7th October 2004, 12:18 AM
However, I think it means that we just shouldn't worry so much about the sins. . .like Caelum said, too, probably in part of the things on which the RCC calls sinful, too.
I don't think that's the meaning. We are never supposed to take sin lightly.
I would say the meaning of Luther's comment is: we sin inevitably; our nature is one of sin. We haven't the choice whether or not to sin, but what we can do is sin boldly, not pretending that our works are not sin or that we have the ability to stop sinning. (Some people use this statement against Luther because they think there is an alternative of not sinning which he is recommending we do not take, whereas the only alternative to sinning boldly is sinning ignorantly.) Once we sin boldly, then we can believe boldly in Christ.

AngelusSax
8th October 2004, 03:50 AM
"Sin Boldly" means, to me:

Don't fear sinning. Don't just sit in a room and be afraid that you'll sin if you step outside. Don't fret over every action, concerned that it may be a sin. Realize that you're human, you're going to sin. Also realize that Christ forgives all sin (with blasphemy of the Holy Spirit the one exception, as excepted by Christ himself).

Qoheleth
8th October 2004, 08:30 PM
Luther's statement about sinning boldly has been widely misunderstood and misused both by friend and foe of Luther's alike. Luther here is stressing the limitless mercy of God directed toward those who strive to live their lives in obedience to Christ. It is not a statement meant to give license to evil doers or what Luther would call "open sinners" that have neither fear, love, or respect for the commandments of God. This was not after all a public statement but a private letter to Philip Melanchthon. He firmly held that non-repentant sinners would be condemned to the fires of hell. Here, however, he is addressing the reality of sin in the life of the Christian and the limitless ability of God to forgive those who put their trust entirely in redemption won for us on the cross.