praise music?

[XVII]

your thoughts and opinions and convictions? if possible, use a Bible verse to back up your standpoint

this applies to what is being sang in the church, youth groups, and what you listen to every day such as if praise music is okay while yer in yer car driving

[Vessel Of Mercy]

Praise music is good as long as it is correct theologically and is in thorough consideration of the right relationship between God and man. It is probably best when the songs have to do with the sermon, and since the sermon should be an exposition of the biblical text, the songs would cover a variety of themes throughout the services as the preaching pastor preaches through the Bible. The songs would not only be about how much Jesus loves us, but in consideration of his love, how he rules over us, intercedes for us, comforts us, disciplines us, etc., would also be included. Also, it probably wouldn't be appropriate to sing a song about your boyfriend Jesus in which you frivolously chant his name a hundred times when the sermon text deals with an honest, deep, and real reflection on the glorious person and work of Jesus. I don't know of any "proof texts" that I could use here, because although the Bible speaks of everything in the universe, it does not speak of it all directly. I wouldn't know where to start giving individual texts that tell us how we ought to act as Christians and how we ought to worship, as the whole Bible, in a sense, is that body of text. We do still have the most vast and perfect resource to draw upon for the way we think and act. In coming before God rightly in worship, we must consider the whole counsel of God, his entire Word and what he speaks to our present situation, directly or indirectly. I do know that at all times we must act in faith by the fact that we are rebellious sinners deserving of death, but God has had mercy on us by the substitutionary death and resurrection of his Son, Jesus.

Hope that contributes somehow, although I may have not answered the question in such a way as you were looking for. May God bless you as you consider these things.

Ben

[pcwilkins]

I find that so much so-called 'praise' music is just thoughtless repetition, designed only to appeal to our natural minds. Words like "Jesus loves me, yeah, Jesus loves me, oh yeah, Jesus loves me...etc etc" seem pointless - there is no praise there at all.

I prefer the good old hymns!

Peter

[Iosias]

Praise and worship music has no place within the church. At home it is up to you :)

[johan777]

Praise and worship music has no place within the church. At home it is up to you :)

Wow, what a fleeting statement. Don't you think you should tell us why you think this way and back it up with some scripture?
Johan

[Gold Dragon]

Wow, what a fleeting statement. Don't you think you should tell us why you think this way and back it up with some scripture?
Johan
It is because the church in Acts was not recorded as singing during worship, just like they weren't recorded as painting their church walls, going to the bathroom in church, using microphones and electrical equipment, reading from the KJV and thousands of other things AV1611's church probably does.

[XVII]

well what about those who actually mean the words when they sing the praise songs like when people mean singing the hymn songs?

why wouldnt praise music belong in a church? scripture backup?

why would or wouldnt praise music be okay outside of church like in your car or at home?

[Sword-In-Hand]

Praise music may not belong in AV1611's church, but it sure does in mine and we worship the same risen Savior, Jesus. Also, Gold Dragon made a valid point, but here is my take on praise and worship music.

I think it's an absolute must in the church. I'm not all for these repetative songs because it seems like we are just trying to drive the name of Jesus into someone's head, but as for songs that truly call out praise and worship to our Lord, I'm in love with them. In our services its amazing how God works through our praise team, which I am on, and just ignites the service. His Holy fire rains down on us and it's almost indescribable of how His presence just overwhelms us. We are definitely not afraid to worship our Lord and I think He blesses us for that. Mind you the music is not what's important, its the presence of the Lord and the reading of His word. Music plays only a small role, but still an important one, because we will praise our Lord with music.

Some verses that call out to me about praise music are these. I know some will argue, but I'm used to that. ;)

John 4: 23-24, "But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

1st Corinthians 10:31, "Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all for the glory of God."

Psalm 150, "Praise the Lord! Praise God in His sanctuary; Praise Him in His mighty firmament! Praise Him for His mighty acts; Praise Him according to His excellent greatness! Praise Him with the sound of the trumpet; Praise Him with the lute and harp! Praise Him with the timbrel and dance; Praise Him with stringed instruments and flutes! Praise Him with loud cymbals; Praise Him with clashing cymbals! Let everything that has breath praise the LORD. Praise the LORD!" (*Note, I did not add the exclamation points, I wrote it word for word of how it is in the Bible.*)

I know some might argue with Psalm 150 because it's part of the Old Testament, but my opinion is get over it, the Old Testament is part of the Bible just like the New Testament is. :)

[Gold Dragon]

Also, Gold Dragon made a valid point, but here is my take on praise and worship music.
I hope nobody misinterpreted me to think that I am opposed to music in church. There are many churches like AV1611's that use the statement "the early church was not recorded as doing it" as their justification for prohibiting an otherwise unprohibited activity. I find that reasoning to be completely ridiculous.

[Sword-In-Hand]

Nah, I knew what you were implying GD and I agree 100%.

[Monica02]

What exactly is praise and worship music? How is it different than hymns? Is it similar to sung prayer such as the Ave Maria or the Chaplet of Divine Mercy (not the content, I know Baptists would not pray these- but similar in idea)? Psalm singing?

[P_G]

What exactly is praise and worship music? How is it different than hymns? Is it similar to sung prayer such as the Ave Maria or the Chaplet of Divine Mercy (not the content, I know Baptists would not pray these- but similar in idea)? Psalm singing?

I just can't tell you the last time I heard "Ave Maria" sung in a Mennonite church :) Pretty song though!

Typically praise and worship music is like what you might find on a WOW CD

I could sing of your love forever
Lord I lift your name on high
I love you Lord
Victory in the Camp


I love the old hymns I truely do and can play a whole boat load of them both traditional and in a Memphis blues kind of thing.

I love the more modern songs too.

From Scripture

Psa 33:2 Praise the LORD with harp: sing unto him with the psaltery and an instrument of ten strings.

OK when this was written the psalter (book of psalms) was written and sung in Hebrew Most likely in a minor key.

Very different than say the great works of faith in the Renesance
or the catchy hymns from the 1800's

Music has moved on too.

The command is still the same and that is to turn your voice and your joy towards G-d

Tradition for traditions sake is not worship


Pastor George

[Monica02]

WOW CD????? I am really out of touch! Should I know what a WOW CD is?

[SumTinWong]

You wouldn't like it if you are into liturgical music, or stuff like Ave Maria (which is a pretty song). Basically it is progressive Christian music as aposed to contemporary Christian music which is horrid at times.

[Monica02]

Forgive my ignorance. Is praise and worship music unique in its words or instumentation? I really do not know what you mean by "progressive". I am not a musician. Is it a style of music, such as rock or jazz or classical? Does it take the place of sermons or scripture reading? Do peole have objections to it because it sounds bad or because the words are not Christian enough? I know I am alll over the place with these questions, sorry.

[Iosias]

Wow, what a fleeting statement. Don't you think you should tell us why you think this way and back it up with some scripture?
Johan
In the NT church there were no musical intruments used. Secondly,

Ephesians 5:19 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=EPH+5:19&language=english&version=KJV&showfn=on&showxref=on) "Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;"

Colossians 3:16 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=COL+3:16&language=english&version=KJV&showfn=on&showxref=on) "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord."

No where is praise and worship music condoned.

[RED that's ME]

One of the natural traits of a truly righteous person should be the giving of praise to God. The Psalmist says, "Rejoice in the LORD, 0 ye righteous; For praise is comely for the upright." (Psalm 33:1). This word "comely" in the Hebrew language means, "suitable", "beautiful" and "becoming". Offering praise unto God should be a big part of the daily spiritual experience of the righteous. The definition of the word "praise" means "to set a price on", or "to commend the worth of, to express approval or admiration of, to laud the glory of, to extol". To the righteous, praise is our response to God for what He has done.

In the Hebrew language, according to the Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance, there are several different words that were translated into the one English word praise. They all express the same idea, but with a slightly different thought according to the context.

The title of Psalm 145(Strong’s #8416) denotes "laudation as by song". The word praise, as used in Psalm 145:2 concerning God’s name, means "to celebrate and boast" (#1984) because of the many victories that have been won in His name.

In Psalm 145:4, the word praise, in connection with God’s works means "to commend" (#7623). The writer says that one generation shall praise God’s works and declare His mighty acts to the next generation. Many times in Israel’s history the people were admonished by God to tell their children of His wondrous works in delivering them from Egyptian bondage and of their supernatural preservation in the wilderness. This trait of transmitting Christian faith to each succeeding generation is one that the Lord said was resident within the genes of Abraham (Genesis 18:19). Surely, with deep gratitude we should be thankful that our parents commended and even recommended the works of God, extending from creation to the regenerative work of Christ on the cross for us, so that this flame of righteousness may be kept alive in the earth.

In the book of Hebrews, the writer is quoting the Psalmist David (Psalm 22:22) in reference to Jesus Christ as saying, "in the midst of the church [or congregation] will I sing praise unto thee" (Hebrews 2:12). The word praise in this verse means "to sing a hymn" in order to make known to the congregation of Israel the purpose and plan that the Heavenly Father has in store for the congregation.

We see according to the record in the Scriptures that there have been many different ways in which our Israelite forefathers have praised God. They praised Him with their vocal cords: "I will greatly praise the LORD with my mouth; . . ." (Psalm 109:30); they praised Him with uplifted hands: "Lift up your hands in the sanctuary, and bless the LORD." (Psalm 134:2); and praised Him by clapping: "0 clap your hands, all ye people; . . ." (Psalm 47:1). We also read where the children of Israel are admonished to praise God with a variety of musical instruments (Psalm 150); by dancing (Psalm 149:3, 150:4), while standing in the House of the LORD (Psalm 135:2) and while lying down in the bed (Psalm 149:5).

Read more atTruth in History (http://www.truthinhistory.org/worship.htm)



Praise Him with the sound of the trumpet; praise Him with the psaltery and harp. Praise Him with the timbrel and dance; praise Him with stringed instruments and organs" (Psalm 150:3-4).



Since Bible times, music has always been an integral part of communing between God and His people. There are many examples of music in the Scriptures. Exodus 15:1-21, is an entire song by Moses and the Israelites recounting their divine victory over the Egyptians who were swallowed up in the Red Sea. King David, who was known as the "sweet psalmist of Israel" (2 Samuel 23:1), was skilled at playing the harp. During his lifetime, he wrote many songs (psalms) to praise the Lord. Psalm 18 is an entire song devoted to David's deliverance from King Saul. Even Jesus and the disciples sung a hymn after the Passover meal before the Lord's arrest in the Garden of Gethsemane. (See Matthew 26:30 and Mark 14:26.) The New Testament also commands us to sing unto the Lord, by stating, "Is any merry? Let him sing psalms" (James 5:13). Again, Ephesians 5:19 encourages believers to be filled with the Spirit while "Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord." These are merely a few examples. Songs and music in God's Word are enormous subjects! It is our desire to be like the Saints of the Bible and certainly to follow after the example of our Savior. As a result, praise and worship to the Lord is a vital part of every Living Word Church meeting. During this time, God the Father is honored, Jesus Christ is glorified, and the Holy Spirit moves in a mighty way to bring healing, comfort, quickening, and encouragement to those who worship Him in Spirit and in Truth (John 4:23-24). Music plays a vital role as a vehicle for praise and worship. The worship and praise in the assembly helps us to prepare our hearts when we come to meet with the Lord. Not only does the Lord receive the praise and honor that He deserves from His people during this time, but the congregation receives strength and joy as well when we praise His holy name.

http://www.worshipmusic.com/0938612409.html (http://www.worshipmusic.com/0938612409.html)

[johan777]

Dear AV1611


(http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=COL+3:16&language=english&version=KJV&showfn=on&showxref=on)Colossians 3:16 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=COL+3:16&language=english&version=KJV&showfn=on&showxref=on) "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord."


(http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=COL+3:16&language=english&version=KJV&showfn=on&showxref=on)

How would you explain the spiritual songs?
Johan

[CelineDion]

AV1611 what does your church do?

[P_G]

In the NT church there were no musical intruments used. Secondly,

Ephesians 5:19 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=EPH+5:19&language=english&version=KJV&showfn=on&showxref=on) "Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;"

Colossians 3:16 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=COL+3:16&language=english&version=KJV&showfn=on&showxref=on) "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord."

No where is praise and worship music condoned.
Yupp Thats right by golly and know what else isn't mentioned?

Lets look at the Tanach (Old Testement) for a moment:
1Sa 24:3 He came to the sheep pens by the way, where was a cave; and Sha'ul went in to relieve himself. Now David and his men were abiding in the innermost parts of the cave.

So apparently going to the bathroom was acceptable in old testement times. I mean since it is mentioned and all.

However my research has revealed that NO WHERE in the New Testement does any one go to the bathroom. Nope not one time is it mentioned or even encouraged.

Henceforth all good men and wommen of the faith should imediately stop going to the bathroom. I have personally locked the toilet in the church and there will be no more of this unseemly and unscriptural activity in my church or in my home.


psssssst

Just because something is not specifically mentioned in the Brit Chadassa (New Testement) doesn't mean it wasn't a common practice nor that it is ungodly.

Blessings

Pastor George:wave:

[Iosias]

Dear AV1611


How would you explain the spiritual songs?
Johan
Songs of the spirit note that what follows is the more important part of the verse: "in your hearts"

[Iosias]

AV1611 what does your church do?It depends. In the morning service which lasts around an hour we break the bread. We have three Hymn books a Believer's Hymn Book, a Remembrence Hymn Book and one more which I have forgotten the name of ( I have not been attending very long). The Believer's and Remembrence Hymns and used in the Breaking of the Bread service and are sung without music.

In the Gospel meeting in the evening we use the Hymns from the book I cannot remember the name of :blush: and that is sung with organ music.

[Sword-In-Hand]

Yupp Thats right by golly and know what else isn't mentioned?

Lets look at the Tanach (Old Testement) for a moment:
1Sa 24:3 He came to the sheep pens by the way, where was a cave; and Sha'ul went in to relieve himself. Now David and his men were abiding in the innermost parts of the cave.

So apparently going to the bathroom was acceptable in old testement times. I mean since it is mentioned and all.

However my research has revealed that NO WHERE in the New Testement does any one go to the bathroom. Nope not one time is it mentioned or even encouraged.

Henceforth all good men and wommen of the faith should imediately stop going to the bathroom. I have personally locked the toilet in the church and there will be no more of this unseemly and unscriptural activity in my church or in my home.


psssssst

Just because something is not specifically mentioned in the Brit Chadassa (New Testement) doesn't mean it wasn't a common practice nor that it is ungodly.

Blessings

Pastor George:wave:

:amen: PG

[LilBrat4him]

I think that some of it is ok

[Sword-In-Hand]

I think something that is kind of interesting is Andy Stanley's (Charles Stanley's son) church, well their praise band, 722, played a whole set of Hoobastank songs to draw in teenagers and then explained the gospel to them.

[Blazin4Christ]

theologically it is fine in my opinion, as long as it isn't "Modern rock praise", if it is like occapello(SP?), or just with a light guitar and piano is fine, but some praise I don't liek if it is to emotional or too carnal, a simple Biblical insight about music for Christians...

COlossions 3:16 - Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

Basically this verse says three things to me personally...

#1. that praise music is to praise God Biblically,
#2. That praise music can be a testimony praising God,
#3. That praise music should be spiritual,

thats my 2 cents

[SumTinWong]

I think something that is kind of interesting is Andy Stanley's (Charles Stanley's son) church, well their praise band, 722, played a whole set of Hoobastank songs to draw in teenagers and then explained the gospel to them. Yeah hoobastank. They sang that wondeful old Gospel song:
Out of Control...
"i've done everything as you say, i followed your rules without question
i though it would help me see things clearly
but instead of helping me to see, i look around and it's like i'm blinded
i don't wanna live like this so can you tell me?

where should i go? what should i do?
i don't understand what you want from me
'cause i don't know if i can trust you
or all of the things you've said to me
and i may never know the answer to this endless mystery
where should i go? what should i do?
i don't understand what you want from me

i feel like i'm spinning out of control, try to focus but everythings twisted
and all along i thought you would be there
to let me know i'm not alone but in fact thats exactly what i was
all alone and spinning out of control. out of control....."

Anyway, if that were me I would be ticked off at the bait and switch.

[Sword-In-Hand]

Although the bait and switch would probably upset some, I still like what 722 did.

[Adammi]

In the NT church there were no musical intruments used. Secondly,

Ephesians 5:19 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=EPH+5:19&language=english&version=KJV&showfn=on&showxref=on) "Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;"

Colossians 3:16 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=COL+3:16&language=english&version=KJV&showfn=on&showxref=on) "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord."

No where is praise and worship music condoned.
Nor is it Condemned.
Define hymns and spiritual songs. They didn't have Amazing Grace, or any of the songs that you or I am familiar with.

[Adammi]

It depends. In the morning service which lasts around an hour we break the bread. We have three Hymn books a Believer's Hymn Book, a Remembrence Hymn Book and one more which I have forgotten the name of ( I have not been attending very long). The Believer's and Remembrence Hymns and used in the Breaking of the Bread service and are sung without music.

In the Gospel meeting in the evening we use the Hymns from the book I cannot remember the name of :blush: and that is sung with organ music.ORGANS!?!?! No not you AV, those satanic, ungodly, demonic, and unscriptual things. TSK TSK TSK.

[Vessel Of Mercy]

Can the majority of us agree at least that praise choruses, hymns, psalms, and spiritual songs must all be biblical in content and the whole of them, sung by a group of believers, over time, should contain proper lyrics and express a proper attitude toward God?

My thought is that no matter what style of music, whatever we sing to the Lord must be correct, biblically. Whatever songs lack in right doctrine or attitude, whether hymns, praise choruses, etc., we should not sing. I generally prefer hymns over any other type of music in church, but I wouldn't say it's wrong to have other kinds of music, because there are quite a few praise choruses that are both doctrinal and have lyrics that genuinely take our true state before God into consideration.

What I do not like are unbiblical hymns in my Baptist Hymnal, songs that have proud lyrics, and songs that overemphasize some aspects of God or Christianity, such as the love of God in Christ, and dismiss God's other attributes or other truths of His Word.

I think something that is kind of interesting is Andy Stanley's (Charles Stanley's son) church, well their praise band, 722, played a whole set of Hoobastank songs to draw in teenagers and then explained the gospel to them.
That seriously offends me because Hoobastank just sucks. :P There's no arguing that. ^_^

Grace and peace to all of you in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Ben

[Miss Mayberry]

Can the majority of us agree at least that praise choruses, hymns, psalms, and spiritual songs must all be biblical in content and the whole of them, sung by a group of believers, over time, should contain proper lyrics and express a proper attitude toward God?

I certainly can. :)

Teehee...praise and worship music.. something I've a pretty strong opinion on.

Hymns really don't appeal to me. I feel like I'm just singing the words -- my heart is not in it. I'm a teenager, so what I just said should come as no surprise. I don't feel that praise and worship music has absolutely NO place in the church. If it expresses your sentiments towards God, if it uplifts and encourages you, if it humbles you, if it 'praises and worships' the Lord, regardless of beat, genre, etc., it has a place in the church.

Praise and worship music also sends out a more modern statement:


Wilt Thou be made whole?
Do you want a new life?
Wilt thou be made whole?
And believe in Christ
Do you want to be washed?
As white as the snow
God's question to you
Wilt thou be made whole?
Compare the above to the following:

If only my one heart
Was all you'd gain from all it cost
Well I know you would have still been a man
With a reason
To willingly offer your life

I am not just a man, vastly lost in this world
Lost in a Sea of Faces
Your body's the bread, Your blood is the wine
Because you traded Your life for mine

Psalms 150:3-5

I say... worship God your way. My way just isn't with hymns. But if that's YOUR way, then that's great! Break the mold. ;)

-Amanda :angel:

[Vessel Of Mercy]

Amanda, I've always been interested in singing the Psalter, but never had the opportunity during a service, so I can only do it privately. It is an inspired response to God, after all.

[johan777]

God is really not into a specific form of worship , but the manner we worship Him.

Mat 15:8 'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.

Mat 15:9 Their worship of me is empty, because they teach human rules as doctrines.'"
Phi 3:3 For it is we who are the circumcision-we who worship in the Spirit of God and boast in Christ Jesus. We have not placed any confidence in the flesh,

Joh 4:23 Yet the hour is coming, and is now here, when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth. Indeed, the Father is looking for people like that to worship him.

Joh 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

[Glorified]

IMO, if the music touches your heart to a point of singing it, clapping to it, smiling, raising your hands, getting chills etc... Then this is a form of worship that pleases God. As long as you can feel Jesus in your heart and this makes you happy, then you are praising and worshipping God period.

I'm curious, why do we use scripture in every single thing that we disagree with to back up our argument when some of it doesn't apply today? Do we in our society still stone people? Crucify people? Eye for an eye? Yet we still do it time and time again to prove our points. I'm certain that there's tons of scripture that does apply still today and that we must abide by it. I'm not doubting that, but it seems that when a disagreement arises everyone starts throwing scripture around as a defense weapon.

IMO, God just wants you to love and adore him as he does each and everyone of us. God sacrificed his only son for us. I look at my son and ask if I could ever do that. Do I love people that much to sacrifice my son whom I love with all my heart. I don't know the answer to that and that scares me.

I think that we sometimes seem to get away from the big picture. We're doing this for God, not our Churches, not for each other, not to prove our points, it's just for God period. Everything else is meaningless.

I feel the Bible is here to teach us how to love God, ourselves, and each other period.

Thank you God for what you have done for us and thank you Jesus for doing it. You are truly awesome.

I hope this makes sense, I'm kind of scatter brained this morning.

[CelineDion]

organs arent in the New Testament. So why are you using them Oh my friend how you have just contridicted yourself. AV1611 its not that we all dont like you its just that we dont see your spiritual logic in ONLY listening to the new testament. That makes no sense. God gave us His whole book for a reason do you think we would have had the Old Testament if it wasnt needed? I mean its only logical.

[eldermike]

I pray that one day we will concern ourselves with what we do outside the church. Go, is our commission, how you come together to spur one another on to good works is not actually church anyway, YOU are the church, everywhere you GO!

And, God need not be protected from music, He is not trapped in your building.

[CelineDion]

Amen Glorified

[ZiSunka]

Why does anyone have to tell anyone what kind of music to praise God with?? :scratch:

When did God make any human the determiner of what kind of music He likes?

[CelineDion]

i agree lambslove

[Glorified]

Eggggggzacltly Lambslove!!!!

[Adammi]

I pray that one day we will concern ourselves with what we do outside the church. Go, is our commission, how you come together to spur one another on to good works is not actually church anyway, YOU are the church, everywhere you GO!

And, God need not be protected from music, He is not trapped in your building.That is the best post I think I've read!

[XVII]

we praise God for what He has done for us with many other reasons...but one big reason being is that He saved us from an eternity without Him...we sing praises to Him for that reason...and we desire to see people get saved, and we get people saved, we want to praise God...

so what makes someone right saying praise music is okay or not? how can we determine who is right or not...how can we know?

if we arent doing what God is commanding us to do, why are we singing praises to our God for all that He has done for us, when we arent doing what He wants from us

[kayanne]

Time for everyone to lighten up a bit with some praise song humor:


The differences between Hymns and Praise music:


An old farmer went to the city one weekend and attended the big city church. He
came home and his wife asked him how it was. "Well," said the farmer,
"It was good. They did something different, however. They sang praise
choruses instead of hymns."

"Praise choruses," said his wife, "What are those?"

"Oh, they're okay. They're sort of like hymns, only different," said
the farmer.

"Well, what's the difference?" asked his wife.

The farmer said, "Well, it's like this - If I were to say to you: Martha,
the cows are in the corn,' well, that would be a hymn. If, on the other hand, I
were to say to you:

Martha Martha, Martha, Oh, Martha, MARTHA, MARTHA,
the cows, the big cows, the brown cows, the black cows,
the white cows, the black and white cows,
the COWS, COWS, COWS are in the corn,
are in the corn, are in the corn, are in the corn,
the CORN, CORN, CORN,

then, if I were to repeat the whole thing two or three times, well that would be
a praise chorus."


As luck would have it, the exact same Sunday a young, new Christian from the
city church attended the small town church. He came home and his wife asked him
how it was. "Well," said the young man, "It was good. They did
something different, however. They sang hymns instead of regular songs."

"Hymns," said his wife, "What are those?"

"Oh, they're okay. They're sort of like regular songs, only
different," said the young man.

"Well, what's the difference?" asked his wife.

The young man said, "Well it's like this - If I were to say to you, Martha,
the cows are in the corn,' well, that would be a regular song. If, on the other
hand, I were to say to you:

Oh Martha, dear Martha, hear thou my cry
Inclines thine ear to the words of my mouth.
Turn thou thy whole wondrous ear by and by
To the righteous, inimitable, glorious truth.
For the way of the animals who can explain
There in their heads is no shadow of sense,
Hearkenest they in God's sun or his rain
Unless from the mild, tempting corn they are fenced.
Yea those cows in glad bovine, rebellious delight,
Have broke free their shackles, their warm pens eschewed.
Then goaded by minions of darkness and night
They all my mild Chilliwack sweet corn have chewed.
So look to that bright shining day by and by,
Where all foul corruptions of earth are reborn.
Where no vicious animal makes my soul cry
And I no longer see those foul cows in the corn.


Then, if I were to do only verses one, three and four and do a key change on
the last verse, well that would be a hymn."

[RED that's ME]

God is soo good and He made us to love and praise him.

We should praise him not just in song but in our living too that is the greatest praise.

There are too many verses that talks about songs and hymns, praises to God. He listened to David play His harp. God loves music we might as well get use to singing praise and worship songs because that's what we will be doing in Heaven for eternity. The Bible says he inhabits our praise. :angel:

I will bless the LORD at all times: his praise SHALL CONTINUALLY be in my mouth. Psalm 34:1
Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men! And let them sacrifice the sacrifices of thanksgiving, and declare his works with rejoicing. Psalm 107:21- 22

PRAISE ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul. While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being. Psalm 146: 1-2


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[Iosias]

ORGANS!?!?! No not you AV, those satanic, ungodly, demonic, and unscriptual things. TSK TSK TSK.
Quite...:) That is why I prefer the Sunday Breaking of the Bread service as there are no musical intruments used at all :clap:

[Iosias]

organs arent in the New Testament. So why are you using them Oh my friend how you have just contridicted yourself. AV1611 its not that we all dont like you its just that we dont see your spiritual logic in ONLY listening to the new testament. That makes no sense. God gave us His whole book for a reason do you think we would have had the Old Testament if it wasnt needed? I mean its only logical.
See post above :)

[Sweet Pea]

I think some people are going to be surprised to find out what REAL praise and worship is in Heaven.

[Iosias]

I think some people are going to be surprised to find out what REAL praise and worship is in Heaven.
I agree...worship is spiritual.

[ZiSunka]

I think some people are going to be surprised to find out what REAL praise and worship is in Heaven.
I think we'll all be surprised...and delighted!:D