Failure

[mjterry87]

Well, last night I tried for an hour not to eat or drink, but I did, and right now I am eating McDonals. I am such a failure! :sigh:

[CharlesYTK]

Easy goes it there my friend. We're just flesh. He knows that.

[Henaynei]

one does not learn to dance http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/15/15_1_150.gifwith his first stephttp://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/15/15_5_10.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001)!!!
WE ALL start at the beginning - it is not where we start that counts or how many times we fall or fail. What counts is we endure and persist with each renewed effort to prevail!!! HaShem counts not how many times we fall, but how many times we get back up!!!

[Henaynei]

You are not a failure.
Consider the fact that you tried and that your heart was to please HaShem. He knows your heart and He is honored by that. OMEYN!!

[Sephania]

I'm sorry this may seem harsh and I expect you all to jump down my throat but really how sincere and much of a try is ONE hour? Many people in preparation eat their meal say an hour before sundown of Erev Shabbat Yom Kippur just like normal and then just don't have anything for the rest of the night.

I'm sorry, I could understand maybe having trouble by mid-morning if you are used to breakfast , but the same night? An hour?

I will have to disagree with you all here, I don't see any true effort here. MJ, I am not calling you a failure, but all this patting you on the back for trying for an hour? Unless you have a medical problem I would say that this does not sound like a sincere effort to me. I know you have been through much lately, and my thoughts and prayers are with you because of that, but being 16 I think you could have gotten through the first night. There are tougher times ahead and we must prepare. The reason for the fasting is a denial of the flesh and seeking to repent from its failings,. I don't believe you were prepared properly so its not all your fault. I pray that next year you will be surrounded by many Messianic believers in a Messianic synagogue that will help you throught this time.

No one is a failure who truely seeks to please HaShem. Yes, he sees all the heart reveals.

OK, go ahead now and start casting stones. :blush:

[ShirChadash]

Who is casting stones?

[Mary_Magdalene]

i dont know about anyone else but i watch what i eat days before i ever fast. i really watch how much i eat so one day im not eating alot and then the next day i am not eating anything.

also, when you are struggling with eating start to focus on Him. Read your bible-maybe start a bible study a few days before so you are focused on learning His Word. This might help you thru it. Think about Christ on the cross-His agonizing death for us-now fasting doesnt seem so hard does it.

the enemy wants you to fail. pray and seek His face. Dont allow the enemy to knock you down when you are trying to be obedient. remember-satan hates obedience.

[Henaynei]

I'm sorry this may seem harsh and I expect you all to jump down my throat but really how sincere and much of a try is ONE hour? :) for one so young (sorry mjt) who has never considered fasting before, who has no support around them, in a household that is cooking, eating and challenging the fast and for whom this is their first Yom Kippur - having known nothing of it until a few weeks ago - 1 hour is a good start indeed. This year he has grown into an awareness and an intention - even if he has not carried it out yet!! "Next year" may he succeed even better!:thumbsup:

How many times have you or I decided to fast on a particular day for some particular reason and it comes midday and we find ourselves in the middle of eating lunch and suddenly remembering that we *had* planned on fasting that day?? AND how many of us, having blown it that far set the fast aside for another day when we can "do it right"?

no stones - just a reality check ;) I got rid of all my stones for Tashlik! ;)

p.s. - neither you nor I are diong very well "fasting" from the computer ;)

[Sephania]

NO, just an intermission between services to stay awake, actually I had come in here earlier to look into a few posts regarding YK, one on Azazel and the other on the Kol Nidre.

:blush: got sidetracked, forgive me.

[Blueskies]

I have to admit to being proud of my 14-year old this Yom Kippur. She faced the fast with a positive attitude and got through it, albeit with occasional remarks about how good pizza sounded.

Nevertheless, this was her first year, and she got up and prayed for strength. Not bragging, exactly, because the both of us were fasting together and no one else was eating in the house. But with prayer and diligence, as well as supporting one another, we were able to get through it.

Keep praying and do the best you can. That's all any of us can do.

[ShirChadash]

Amen, Blueskies.

[Bon]

I was talking to my Dad in Spain this morning, and he told me he fasted on Saturday for Atonement....and he said that when it came time for him to eat his evening meal after sunset on Saturday evening, that the food never tasted so good.

He said that he praised Yahweh with every mouthful.

What a sweetie my Dad is.

May Yahweh bless my Dad a hundred fold.

Shalom from Bon

[Henaynei]

I was talking to my Dad in Spain this morning, and he told me he fasted on Saturday for Atonement....and he said that when it came time for him to eat his evening meal after sunset on Saturday evening, that the food never tasted so good.

He said that he praised Yahweh with every mouthful.

What a sweetie my Dad is.

May Yahweh bless my Dad a hundred fold.

Shalom from Bon True - an eggsalad sandwich is a supreme gourmet fantasy come true after a conscious fast!! ;)

[debi b]

So is chocolate :yum:

[ShirChadash]

We all crawl. It doesn't matter how long we have walked in certain areas, there are ALWAYS new things to learn and always areas we crawl in first before we can walk in them. Such is the nature of growth and relationship with our Abba.

[P_G]

I have thought about this all day
And prayed over it and this is what I come up with..


Allow me to dump this big pile of rocks here in the middle of the forum and pick up my brother MJ's hand and stand by him.

I too failed in many ways on Yom Kippur. My fast did not last. And I have to admit I did not spend as much time in prayer as I should have. I am also a sinner.

So I want to invite those who have walked a perfect path on this to pick up some stones and kill us. Yes thats the penelty death--- sorry MJ I guess those are the rules but hey little brother at least we will go out together you know? And at the hands of the completely righteous too. I guess that is some kind of blessing in and of itself.

Now if you maybe turned on your computer or didn't make a perfect day of this or hey maybe even sinned some other way well you are invited to stand with me and MJ after all you know it's only right -- Right?

Wait

Hold on

There apears here that there is someone who has chosen to take our place!
To bear the pain of our sins and who would be our judge himself but chooses to rather simply pay the price in our stead!

MJ isn't that terrific?


Now having said that I weep for those who would pick up the rocks
for it is not my flesh and blood you would stone.

It is Y'shua's


Think about it


Blessings

Oh and if you don't need those rocks anymore lets use them to build a firmer foundation what say?

Pastor George :preach:

[ShirChadash]

Allow me to dump this big pile of rocks here in the middle of the forum and pick up my brother MJ's hand and stand by him. :) (in other words, I'm happy to see it)

I too failed in many ways on Yom Kippur...<snip>

Now if you maybe turned on your computer or didn't make a perfect day of this or hey maybe even sinned some other way :wave: (in other words... Uh, that would be me... or: "I resemble that statement")



Now having said that I weep for those who would pick up the rocks
for it is not my flesh and blood you would stone.

It is Y'shua's ! (In other words... Yup.)



Oh and if you don't need those rocks anymore lets use them to build a firmer foundation what say?
:thumbsup: (in other words... Uh, sounds like a plan to me, George.)

I say :amen: (in other words...












Ditto!)

[visionary]

I will hold hands with you PG as this is the place where I too deserve the same judgment. I too have failed in the fast, failed in the repentance, failed in the sincerity for the awesome day, failed in it all.

I may have been the worst as I looked upon the good graces of the Lord to cover them, and to forgive me, even when I didn't deserve it. You know, I had this faith, that the kind nature of my brother would be one to forgive me all manners of sins, and in all of my failures, that dependance I have upon his good graces for my poor deeds just isn't right and to me seems the worse.

Everytime I feel this way, the Lord points to the seventy x seventy forgiveness rules and reassures me that I have not overextended my welcome in His Kingdom. For which I am extremely greatful, because I love Him and like it here with Him more than any other place this world has to offer.

[mjterry87]

Thanks for standing up for me guys. The truth is that I could have gone through with the fast but I would have been like this:

Mom: Michael, why are you not eating, I made all this food and you are not eating it, what a waste. (My mom likes to cook before a hurricane)

Dad: Michael, Jesus died and destroyed the Torah, it is all done with. That is all OT stuff. YOU ARE NOT A JEW!!!!!!

Little Brother: Hey grandma, Michael is not eating food because he thinks he is Jewish.


My family does not understand at ALL! I know I probily could have done it, but I chose not to, I gave into temptation. Plus, my mom gets real nervous before a hurricane, and cooks A LOT ! So, it would have been twice as had NOT to eat. Anyways thanks again PG, and everyone else, hopefully next year I will go through with it!

Shalom :wave:

[ShirChadash]

:groupray: I want in too!

PS, 2300 posts!!! :eek::eek::eek: :clap:

[Nossa-the-Lame]

:groupray: I want in also, I need a hug! And wayto go Zemmy!

[ShirChadash]

*Zemmy groves on down...

Thas a whole lotta posts!!

[insaneinthebrain]

*Zemmy groves on down...

Thas a whole lotta posts!!
Groves on down? Are we talkin' orange groves, or are you growing something else? :P

[Nossa-the-Lame]

Groves on down? Are we talkin' orange groves, or are you growing something else? :P

^_^ ^_^

[P_G]

Thanks for standing up for me guys. The truth is that I could have gone through with the fast but I would have been like this:

Mom: Michael, why are you not eating, I made all this food and you are not eating it, what a waste. (My mom likes to cook before a hurricane)

Dad: Michael, Jesus died and destroyed the Torah, it is all done with. That is all OT stuff. YOU ARE NOT A JEW!!!!!!

Little Brother: Hey grandma, Michael is not eating food because he thinks he is Jewish.


My family does not understand at ALL! I know I probily could have done it, but I chose not to, I gave into temptation. Plus, my mom gets real nervous before a hurricane, and cooks A LOT ! So, it would have been twice as had NOT to eat. Anyways thanks again PG, and everyone else, hopefully next year I will go through with it!

Shalom :wave:


Ask you dad if Jesus got rid of fasting for me will you?

I may have a very interesting answer for him

Pastor George

(hehehe I would have you ask him if Jesus also abolished that "Honor thy father" rule but I know I would back hand you if you asked me that :) )

[P_G]

You know Terry

I just thought of something here
and I could see your dilema really

Think about this there are other Fasts you can do with out
it going noticed by anyone.

Remember to wash your face and be cheerful!

No it is not the most proper halacha but I truely beleive Ha'Shem would honor your heart. Perhaps a fast of something you like or many things you like
Even your PC and stuff
Rather just quietly take time in prayer. Mom and dad will just think you are being moody which is normal for a teenager.

Trust me on this

PG

[Nossa-the-Lame]

You always have great advice PG, such wisdom and insight! When can I adopt you? ;) :thumbsup:

[Sephania]

Bad Zayit, http://education.bradfordcollege.ac.uk/images/coursesubjects/world_of_teaching/nicki/ruler.jpgBad!

[ShirChadash]

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Ehn, you do that far too often, Zayit, methinks ^_^ .