Is swearing/cussing okay?

[Amanda-Soo]

Here is why I believe swearing is wrong:


"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." - 1 Corinthians 6:9-10

Revile means to use abusive language. Which states above anyone who uses abusive language will not enter into heaven.

"Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption." - Ephesians 4:29-30

[Asar'el]

Having voted 'No, you should not swear at all', I must say I wish I could do that which I should... I thank God that He knows our weak frame.

It is good to aspire to high ideals; in what we think, in what we do, and in what we say.

[Jesus_freak1216]

IMO, swearing is wrong, but i don't include phrases like "****", or "****ed off" as cusses. perhaps they're not the best words to use at church, but i wouldn't hold back from using them around my friends out of church. and i have to say unfortunately, i do use some cusses in my head when i get ****ed, i repent of it yes, but i still do it, and i'm positive 80% of you people do it also, lol. but i believe swearing is wrong in and out.

[Jesus_freak1216]

oops, i didn't know c*** was a cuss on here, lol. my mistake, i apologize!i shall use words like "p.o.ed" and crud from now on

[MLynn]

The ideal is no swearing at all. But, we are all human and prone to error. Jesus died for all of our sins, including bad attitudes and bad language. We can repent and learn from our mistakes.

[tanya88]

Cussing is cursing. We should be only blessing. What Whould Jesus Do? I don't think Jesus cussed

[tweek821]

I'm not going to sit here and condemn anyone who cusses because Lord knows I should have a throne in hell (not a good thing) but it's a really bad habit that begins to become second nature until it slips at church or what have you...and then you come up with excuses like, "my parents always said it" or "i heard it on tv" when it's really your probelm.

[Mr. Lunt]

No we shouldn't. Pr 10:31-32 The mouth of the righteous brings forth wisdom, but the perverse tongue will be cut out. The lips of the righteous know what is acceptable, but the mouth of the wicked what is perverse.

[The Mystic]

I definetly don't believe in cussing and I've only cussed once in public during sixth grade. But I know that a lot of you guys have a problem with just slipping up sometimes when you get mad or something. Well when people cuss around me I can get offended especially if they're a Christian. But I understand that it can be something you struggle with. Just whenever you slip up, even if your with non-Christians, just apologize out loud to the people around you. Because when people don't apologize it tends to make me think that they're not a very strong Christian, but I definetly respect it when someone apologizes for cursing.

[cat has felt the light!]

sometimes I swear, F word, S word whenI've been hurt or something but I'm trying not too, taking the Lord's name in vain is absolutely wrong!!!
C@ xx

[cat has felt the light!]

I've just read the above post and I always apologise!!!
C@ xx

[Wahwax]

Ephesians 4:29

[angelnstix]

I used to cuss A LOT! I was raised in a family that cussed. I think it is wrong and I try not to do it. I am not perfect and I slip up now and then. :(

[angelnstix]

We just have to stay close to God and ask him for forgiveness of our sins.;)

[Wahwax]

NIV Ephesians 4:29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.

KJV Eph 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

NASB Ephesians 4:29 Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.

[Akuma]

Cussing makes people sad....

[born2run]

I have a "huge" problem with swearing. It bothers me like the plague, and I can't seem to shake it. I hate it, I know it's wrong, but it's become a habit. It's against God's orders, and it's unprofessional. Any suggestions as how to boot it for good?

[HotRhymez]

I am not completely sure, but I would have to say that swearing is wrong if you are intending to insult or fight somebody and offend them, and swearing is also wrong if you are taking God's name in vain. (Examples... Oh my God, God **** it, etc)

However, I do believe that swearing isn't really a sin if you are using it to joke around about something or with something, or if you are by yourself and you just mutter a curse word to yourself...for example if you are by yourself and you trip and fall and swear, it's not really a sin since you are expressing emotions cuz of the pain.

I swear dozens of times a day, but rarely do I swear to somebody else intending to hurt them or put them down and I don't take God's name in vain anymore...when I swear it's usually when I'm telling a joke or when I'm angry about something, or when I'm by myself blowing off some steam. God isn't going to throw us out of Heaven just because we swore a few times on earth, we're not perfect!

[Bible Addict]

No, the Bible discusses how a freshwater spring cannot produce salt water and a freshwater spring cannot produce salt water etc. It goes on to say in the same passage that in the same way, we should not swear when we're supposed to be praising/worshipping God.

Also, think of it this way: if you throw a small wrench in to a large engine, it can totally ruin the engine... our mouths are small, but they utter evil things, and like a wrench in an engine, they can mess up our entire lives.

If we try to get in the habit of looking at things positively, and looking to God when we're angry or upset, this should become a non-issue anyway.

And BTW, please don't take this the wrong way, I'm not claiming to be perfect or that I never swear, I'm just saying I don't think we should and we should actively try not to.

[Cin]

No, I agree with the others that we should not let anything unwholesome come out of our mouths. I remember in high school my best friends would always apologize when they slipped up and cursed around me. I was always amazed at that because I never confronted them or said anything about it to them. It made me feel like I was a witness to them because I didn't talk that way.

[DeltaJ]

i think mild explenitive are okay but apsolutely not profanitys

[tanya88]

I used to cuss but then God helped me change.Now when I hear someone cuss it makes me uncomfortable. I alsom know that most guys ( Russian guys atleast) get turned off when girls cuss. They say its unattractive.

[Bible Addict]

No, the Bible discusses how a freshwater spring cannot produce salt water and a freshwater spring cannot produce salt water etc. It goes on to say in the same passage that in the same way, we should not swear when we're supposed to be praising/worshipping God.
I found the passage I was talking about:

James 3

Taming the Tongue

1Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. 2We all stumble in many ways. If anyone is never at fault in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to keep his whole body in check.
3When we put bits into the mouths of horses to make them obey us, we can turn the whole animal. 4Or take ships as an example. Although they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are steered by a very small rudder wherever the pilot wants to go. 5Likewise the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. 6The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.
7All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and creatures of the sea are being tamed and have been tamed by man, 8but no man can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.
9With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. 10Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. 11Can both fresh water and salt[1 (http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?passage=James+3%3A1-12&SUBMIT=Lookup+Passage&NIV_version=yes&language=english#footnote_882130860_1)] water flow from the same spring? 12My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.
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[Bladecarver]

No, it's not.

[kwimmer]

Honestly, it probably depends on the context, but everyday language does not call for it.

[heldtight]

Right the bible should have been the end of it. Although I think that this is even clearer, we are to minister grace to our hearers. Swearing cussing or other indecent vulgarities does not minister grace to me, they turn my stomach. Think about that when you want to get down and dirty are you ministering grace?
Eph 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

Case closed I would say.

Plus several proverbs can be added.

[faith by day]

It is not ok to swear. it is wrong in the eyes of the lord.

[Touring3D]

None of it is ok. I slip up sometimes though.

You should have heard me before I accepted Jesus. It was REALLY bad. The Holy Spirit has worked wonders in me.

[_Zap_]

No, you shouldn't.

[The "J"]

"Anything but taking the Lord's name in vain"

Don't worry mods, I'll watch my tongue around here *wink*

[God'sGrace]

However the occasional swear when in the presence of non-Christians (who regulary swear) might be tactically useful because if all your language is clean then they won't take you seriously and you will build to gap between yourself and them. You need to bring bridges with the unsaved by showing that Christians are'nt a bunch of weirdos but real humans too!

Even so your overall language should be cleaner than theirs and you should NEVER take the Lords name in vain. (unless you are an actor and your character in a play takes the the lords name)
WHAT?!?!?!? We are supposed to be setting an example for nonchristians. Granted, we shouldn't be some goody-goody two shoes, but cussing to make them know we are human isn't right. I mean, come on, do we want to go out and murder someone to show we are human? Also, think about it, do we really want to be human, or do we want to be like Christ? (Please don't take offense, I might be wrong)

[Qidron]

:eek: Wellll, uh, no. (why don't we have a "rolls eyes" icon?Or an "Are you kidding me?")
??? how could it be OK???
Everyone falls short, ya know, but NO IT ISN'T OK.

[Starting again]

Ok ok... lets not be too harsh it was an honest question after all.
I don't think it's ok to swear, but I have my moments.
All I have to say is, don't start becasue it's really hard to stop.
Most swear words don't have very moral meanings, in which case if it isn't wrong, it should be, no one should be going round talking about what they "did" last night ick.. and I know what you're gonna say "... Ewww I never actally think of what it means when I say it!!..." but see, thats the point, the devil always gets us to do things without us really knowing or caring about what we are doing.
I leave the decision up to you.

[Khrissy78]

I was never taught about the Lord growing up, my parents never took me to church. His name was mentioned in the house but only in vain. Needless to say I was raised around a bunch of swearers (is that a word?) therefore I picked up on it big time..I have recently slowed down alot and I wont give up until I swear no more. I never thought it was very attractive to have words like that come out of my mouth, I just didnt know any better and it became a habbit. I do not think its right to consider those who swear bad or unintelligent people, some of them just picked it up from their parents or their surroundings and really think that there is nothing wrong with it. I do not agree with saying the Lords name in vain (I am guilty of that too:cry: yes i have stopped) but my point is that those who dont know Him dont realize what saying that it means.

[Khrissy78]

oh and HAPPY BIRTHDAY QIDRON!

[Nancaroo]

I don't believe that swearing is ever okay and if we have a slip of the tongue we need to confess it as the sin that it is

[Qidron]

Oh, Khrissy, I'm blessed....thank you!

[k]

Somewhere between the first two. The "F" word comes from "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge." When people were caught in the physical act they were put in stocks for all to see, and since typography had yet to become a Kinkos business, the crime was placed in the form of an acronym. So, this evolved into a "cuss" word. Kind of like patriarchy evolving women into sex objects, or household slaves and second class citizens.

Peace

[Khrissy78]

Oh, Khrissy, I'm blessed....thank you!
You very welcome!:wave:

[Caedmon]

"Cuss words" are part of some people's active vocabulary. Most of the time, these words intensify the emotional content of a statement. Most of the music that I listen to contains such words, and I use these words occasionally (although never at CF since that would violate the rules). The Christ, Himself, used words and phrases with a comparable emotional charge. There's next to nothing wrong with it, unless you use them to greatly hurt another person for no constructive reason. Any word, regardless of its classification, can be used to hurt others in this way.

Disclaimer: My comments concerning "cuss words" are not the opinion of every CF staff member.

[Libby1]

"Cuss words" are part of some people's active vocabulary. Most of the time, these words intensify the emotional content of a statement. Most of the music that I listen to contains such words, and I use these words occasionally (although never at CF since that would violate the rules). The Christ, Himself, used words and phrases with a comparable emotional charge. There's next to nothing wrong with it, unless you use them to greatly hurt another person for no constructive reason. Any word, regardless of its classification, can be used to hurt others in this way.I found the passage I was talking about:

J A M E S CHAPTER 3 (THREE)

Taming the Tongue

1Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. 2We all stumble in many ways. If anyone is never at fault in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to keep his whole body in check.
3When we put bits into the mouths of horses to make them obey us, we can turn the whole animal. 4Or take ships as an example. Although they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are steered by a very small rudder wherever the pilot wants to go. 5Likewise the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. 6The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.
7All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and creatures of the sea are being tamed and have been tamed by man, 8but no man can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.
9With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. 10Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. 11Can both fresh water and salt[1 (http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?passage=James+3%3A1-12&SUBMIT=Lookup+Passage&NIV_version=yes&language=english#footnote_882130860_1)] water flow from the same spring? 12My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.
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I pose just one question...does Jesus swear? WWJD? We are called to stay separate from the world. We are to live in the world but NOT be a part of it. Our lights are to SHINE not be tainted.

It greatly saddens and grieves my spirit that I quote you verbatim"...Most of the music that I listen to contains such words, and I use these words occasionally (although never at CF since that would violate the rules)...."

What grieves me even more is you try to condone with the following quote verbatim "...The Christ, Himself, used words and phrases with a comparable emotional charge. There's next to nothing wrong with it,...."

I have underligned the last portion of your quote: "... There's next to nothing wrong with it,...." as it shows that you are aware it is wrong.


Swearing is NOT acceptable. Period. End of discussion. We are to be EXAMPLES and SHOW THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE................which includes our actions.

:( by your response.

[AdJesumPerMariam]

I pose just one question...does Jesus swear? WWJD? We are called to stay separate from the world. We are to live in the world but NOT be a part of it. Our lights are to SHINE not be tainted.

Swearing is NOT acceptable. Period. End of discussion.

I agree. Swearing is never aceptable, even my kids & grandkids know that!

[PandaJunky]

Some of my friends cuss, and I don't like it. Most of my good friends also hate cussing/swearing. As one of them put it "I believe that people who swear are unintelligent, because they can't think up better words than those they use." No offence to those who do swear/cuss, but I have to agree with him. There are so many other words that you can use. I know that swearing can be an addiction, my cousin, and some of my friends, are "addicted."

As for saying the LORD's name in vain..That is an absolute no, no.

[Libby1]

Double posted. Sorry

[Khrissy78]

Just because someone swears does not make them a bad person..Most people pick up on it from their parents. I for example am a wonderful person, one who will help anyone that I can. I do so much for others that I barley have time to think of myself, and I too "cuss". I am trying to stop and I am doing well so far. The reasons I am stopping is because I realized that I did not like what was coming from my mouth. That does not mean that now that I am changing that I will now look at my friends/family and say they are bad for the way they speak. It is they way they choose to live thier life, just as we Christians choose to live ours how we choose. I agree, now that I know Christ that saying his name in vain is an offense but we cannot exspect someone who does not know Christ to feel the same way we do. I have noticed so many people on this board that say "this is right and that is wrong" because of what they believe in. How about what others believe in? Or dont believe in? Not one of us knows anothers heart or why they do what they do. We are all made different, we just need to learn to respect that. None of us (including me) are perfect. ;)

[Libby1]

Just because someone swears does not make them a bad person..Most people pick up on it from their parents. I for example am a wonderful person, one who will help anyone that I can. I do so much for others that I barley have time to think of myself, and I too "cuss". I am trying to stop and I am doing well so far. The reasons I am stopping is because I realized that I did not like what was coming from my mouth. That does not mean that now that I am changing that I will now look at my friends/family and say they are bad for the way they speak. It is they way they choose to live thier life, just as we Christians choose to live ours how we choose. I agree, now that I know Christ that saying his name in vain is an offense but we cannot exspect someone who does not know Christ to feel the same way we do. I have noticed so many people on this board that say "this is right and that is wrong" because of what they believe in. How about what others believe in? Or dont believe in? Not one of us knows anothers heart or why they do what they do. We are all made different, we just need to learn to respect that. None of us (including me) are perfect. ;)Whoa no offense intended:) I'm not going by how I 'feel' nor how I 'believe'. Simply by what the Word of God itself has to say and how God says we are to be examples. I totally agree that now many people feel it is the 'norm' and that it has been permitted to 'become' part of their norm. It is letting our lights shine and 'showing' it.

[Krazeekkc]

"Cuss words" are part of some people's active vocabulary. Most of the time, these words intensify the emotional content of a statement. Most of the music that I listen to contains such words, and I use these words occasionally (although never at CF since that would violate the rules). The Christ, Himself, used words and phrases with a comparable emotional charge. There's next to nothing wrong with it, unless you use them to greatly hurt another person for no constructive reason. Any word, regardless of its classification, can be used to hurt others in this way.
I think I agree with you. I think lihe sh** is ok when say you stub your toe. But saying it to someone is wrong. Also, besides taking the Lords name in vain, dam* is also wrong. Does anyone else feel that way? Because even if you called someone stupid that would also be a sin. Same if you used a cuss word instead of stupid. I actually knew a couple of people that didn't allow them to say stupid, darn, or anything of the sort.

[Libby1]

Stupid is not a cuss word. However calling someone stupid is one of the forms of abuse.

[Krazeekkc]

Some of my friends cuss, and I don't like it. Most of my good friends also hate cussing/swearing. As one of them put it "I believe that people who swear are unintelligent, because they can't think up better words than those they use." No offence to those who do swear/cuss, but I have to agree with him. There are so many other words that you can use.
Yes, but according to some of the verses even using a different word would still be just as bad.

[Libby1]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. You are referring to REPLACING a word BUT still inferring the interpretation..............yes in that case it would still be swearing.

[ps139]

At all times, whether we know it or not, we are witnesses to our Christian faith. Frankly I think swearing is a sign of ignorance, at least thats how I view it. If someone needs to swear to get their point across, they should spend some time learning appropriate words. Is a word, a string of phonemes, inherently evil? No. But society perceives it this way, and people are offended. For that reason, we should make our best efforts to watch our tongues.

Paul's words to the Corinthians apply in this situation:



You say, "I am allowed to do anything"--but not everything is helpful. You say, "I am allowed to do anything"--but not everything is beneficial. Don't think only of your own good. Think of other Christians and what is best for them.
Here's what you should do. You may eat any meat that is sold in the marketplace. Don't ask whether or not it was offered to idols, and then your conscience won't be bothered. For "the earth is the Lord's, and everything in it."
If someone who isn't a Christian asks you home for dinner, go ahead; accept the invitation if you want to. Eat whatever is offered to you and don't ask any questions about it. Your conscience should not be bothered by this. But suppose someone warns you that this meat has been offered to an idol. Don't eat it, out of consideration for the conscience of the one who told you. It might not be a matter of conscience for you, but it is for the other person.
Now, why should my freedom be limited by what someone else thinks? If I can thank God for the food and enjoy it, why should I be condemned for eating it? Whatever you eat or drink or whatever you do, you must do all for the glory of God. Don't give offense to Jews or Gentiles or the church of God. That is the plan I follow, too. I try to please everyone in everything I do. I don't just do what I like or what is best for me, but what is best for them so they may be saved.

[Qidron]

ps139,

:amen:

And thanks for the post !

[Khrissy78]

Whoa no offense intended:)My post was not at all meant to sound like I was offended.."Whoa" makes it sound like you thought I was angry when I wrote it. I wish you would not take it that way.:D

I'm not going by how I 'feel' nor how I 'believe'. Simply by what the Word of God itself has to say and how God says we are to be examples. I totally agree that now many people feel it is the 'norm' and that it has been permitted to 'become' part of their norm. It is letting our lights shine and 'showing' it.My post was not directed at you, it was just my opinion on the thread..
My whole point was that alot of people dont know about His Word either because they choose not to believe or they were never taught any thing about Him. The other part of my point was that those who swear are not bad people because of how they choose to speak. We are not good examples if we make those who dont follow His Word feel like they are bad, wrong or anything else like that (not saying you do). After all He will love them no matter what right?;)

[Jesuswannabe112789]

NEVER SWEAR! NEVER USE THE LORD'S NAME IN VAIN! I think these are some of the worst things you can do. You should never cuss whether you're around Christians or non-Christians. As Christians, we need to stand up and set a GOOD example for others. I hate it, when kids at my school cuss (which is all the time)and use the Lord's name in vain. According to my mom, kids never used to swear, as much as they do now, when she was in school. Today, kids cuss as if they were using every day language. I believe that this has to be stopped!

[Libby1]

At all times, whether we know it or not, we are witnesses to our Christian faith. Frankly I think swearing is a sign of ignorance, at least thats how I view it. If someone needs to swear to get their point across, they should spend some time learning appropriate words. Is a word, a string of phonemes, inherently evil? No. But society perceives it this way, and people are offended. For that reason, we should make our best efforts to watch our tongues.

Paul's words to the Corinthians apply in this situation:
:thumbsup: Ps139!

[Libby1]

My post was not at all meant to sound like I was offended.."Whoa" makes it sound like you thought I was angry when I wrote it. I wish you would not take it that way.:D

My post was not directed at you, it was just my opinion on the thread..
My whole point was that alot of people dont know about His Word either because they choose not to believe or they were never taught any thing about Him. The other part of my point was that those who swear are not bad people because of how they choose to speak. We are not good examples if we make those who dont follow His Word feel like they are bad, wrong or anything else like that (not saying you do). After all He will love them no matter what right?;)
Hello. You are correct those who do NOT know are not bad people. Have you ever noticed when someone loves the Lord and someone starts to swear and suddenly they stutter and apologize for swearing BUT they don't understand why they are swearing or speaking inappropriately? This is how we should be. When our light shines fully even non christians sense and know there is something different about you and they find they are unable to behave inappropriately.

When our light shines openly for Christ, without saying anything in time those who do not know him should ask what makes you different or they will state there is something different about you...............We cannot serve TWO masters.

[Caedmon]

I pose just one question...does Jesus swear?"... you brood of vipers..." - Matthew 3:7, Matthew 12:34, Matthew 23:33, Luke 3:7. NASB.
"... you are like white washed tombs..." - Matthew 23:27. NASB.
"... hypocrite(s)..." - Matthew 7:5, Matthew 15:7, Matthew 22:18, Matthew 23:13, Matthew 23:14, Matthew 23:15, Matthew 23:23, Matthew 23:25, Matthew 23:27, Matthew 23:29, Matthew 24:51, Mark 7:6, Luke 6:42, Luke 12:56, Luke 13:15. NASB.
"... son of hell..." - Matthew 23:15. NASB

If you think that these words are not "cuss words," try calling someone a "son of hell" or "hell-spawn" today.

[Caedmon]

According to my mom, kids never used to swear, as much as they do now, when she was in school.
Tell her to read Cather in the Rye, by J.D. Salinger, and then have her read when that novel was first published.
Today, kids cuss as if they were using every day language.That's because most of them are.

[Qidron]

Whoa Caedmon

Are you implying that because something was in a book it was reality for EVERYONE at that time? Maybe the book helped usher it in..do ya think?

Young ppl today are much more likely to substitute vulgarities for real words. It's just easier and supposedly cool. And the more we hear it, or read it, the more likely we are to use it.

It's true that Jesus calls it like it is....but I'D be careful about calling a group of ppl a brood of vipers...or someone a son of hell...although I do know of some...who call themselves CHRISTIANS... :confused:

He also told us not to return evil for evil....or railing for railing....so I'm thinking that makes it pretty clear.

[k]

It appears some words are (maybe?) being used out of context and definition. Christ said not to 'swear' but, this had nothing to do with 'cuss' words. (Did those words even exist then? Taking the Lord's name in vain is exempt) Not 'swearing' means not making an oath, we are to 'let your yes be yes and your no be no.'

James 3 speaks clearly on 'cursing' but, this was in the context of condemning people, or having direct personal ill-will towards someone. Is it possible that our culture has so ingrained the nature of certain words that we accept it as a priori knowledge? What is the harm of saying the 's' word in place of ****? Why is a euphemism acceptable and not the real deal? Obviously, using '****' or 'dung' as a direct attack on a person is a harmful insult, but so is stupid; so what if our culture trained us to see 'stupid' as a cuss word? We would then 'outlaw' that word? For every cuss word there are several 'acceptable' replacements. So part of my point about James 3 is that is seems as though specific words are irrelevent, but what is important is the love (or lack of) in the heart of the one speaking.

Let me be clear in that I am not trying to justify anything, but merely asking some questions.

Peace

[OddBeani]

Would you kiss your mother with that mouth?

[k]

Would you kiss your mother with that mouth?
Have no idea if this was intended for me, or in general. As I stated, simply asking (what seeeeem to be) valid questions. To answer yours, I have never had the honor of meeting my mother. If that ever happens, I would love to kiss my mother and thank her for giving me life.

Peace

[Caedmon]

Are you implying that because something was in a book it was reality for EVERYONE at that time?
Nope. I'm claiming that the "good ol' days," when things were "better" than they are now, never existed.
Maybe the book helped usher it in..do ya think?
I'm pretty sure that the book reflected an already present trend. My 70+ grandmother fully agrees with me.
Young ppl today are much more likely to substitute vulgarities for real words. It's just easier and supposedly cool.
IMO, you're presenting a biased argument. I've heard adults that "cuss" continually. Several months ago, a grey-headed gentlemen made no qualms about calling me a "homo" in the store for picking up some Dove soap. So I'll have to disagree with you.
And the more we hear it, or read it, the more likely we are to use it.
I'll have to disagree somewhat with that as well. I have many academic friends who are also exposed to "cuss words" in life and in the literature they read, and who do not make a habit of using said words.
It's true that Jesus calls it like it is....
As do I... truth tempered with compassion.
but I'D be careful about calling a group of ppl a brood of vipers...or someone a son of hell...although I do know of some...who call themselves CHRISTIANS... :confused:
There is an "evangelist" who comes to our campus on a weekly basis and screams at us, continually claiming that we're "liars," "whores," "whoremongers," etc. I find that to be ignorant and quite disrespectful, not to mention ineffective. He's not winning any proselytes, and I would never use such tactics.
He also told us not to return evil for evil....or railing for railing....so I'm thinking that makes it pretty clear.
I don't use language to wrongfully attack others, although I do have a gift for language, and sometimes I am tempted. But I think that in a very few instances we are allowed, as Christ was, to tell it how it is.

[Qidron]

OK, so leave out the word YOUNG...that was a mistake...many people today use curse words instead of words that discribe what they really want to say.

Somehow I feel like we're missing the point here. Those of us who call ourselves Christians are being sifted like wheat...lotsa chaff in here. It's all coming to the surface. So, I will concede that in ALL the good ol' days there has been a continual downward trend in morality...but ppl had managed, in the past, to stem the tide better...and did not claim so freely that evil is good. The dam just breaks wider year by year. This isn't OK, but it will be used to wake us up to our need of cleansing.

"Calling it like it is" is not the same as blurting out empty vulgarities, cursing people or being verbally abusive...and I think those are the things that were being referred to here.

Your weekly evangelist sounds like he needs a good "movement" and lots of rest. I hope you are praying for him. :)

Oh, and we did not use vulgar language when I was in high school like it is used today. I don't care what anyone else did or says. I know that to be true. I was there.

[Nevada77]

You should avoid swearing at all costs, especially around other people. Not only does it sound awful it makes other people feel uncomfortable. Definately don't take the Lord's name in vain.

Nevada :angel:

[Mϋzikdϋde]

My son asked me who decided which words would be profanity and which ones would not.

I told him that profane words are designed to offend people. Whether you are personally offended or not is inconsequential. The rest of society won't deem a word non-profane because you think it's ok. Some words were originally designed to describe other things such as a female canine but we took that word and applied it to female humans in an attempt to demean their character. Thus, even though the word was not originally intended to offend, it still ended up that way.

So, when we ask if it's alright to swear, we are really asking if it's alright to offend people.

I think the answer is obvious.

EDIT: I have to admit that I swear on occasion. I don't try to justify, or rationalize it and I don't condone it. My language is included in my 12 step plan for repentance.

[Libby1]

"... you brood of vipers..." - Matthew 3:7, Matthew 12:34, Matthew 23:33, Luke 3:7. NASB.
"... you are like white washed tombs..." - Matthew 23:27. NASB.
"... hypocrite(s)..." - Matthew 7:5, Matthew 15:7, Matthew 22:18, Matthew 23:13, Matthew 23:14, Matthew 23:15, Matthew 23:23, Matthew 23:25, Matthew 23:27, Matthew 23:29, Matthew 24:51, Mark 7:6, Luke 6:42, Luke 12:56, Luke 13:15. NASB.
"... son of hell..." - Matthew 23:15. NASB

If you think that these words are not "cuss words," try calling someone a "son of hell" or "hell-spawn" today.
Jesus was was filled with righteous anger when the temple was used to buy and sell as it after all was to be a place of worship. I don't feel you can justify 'swearing' nor compare it with Christ's sayings. Since Satan is real and Jesus Christ is real and is the living Son of God it would make sense that he refers to their sin as such.

I pose another question to you: To pose another question: Does swearing 'edify' Jesus Christ?

Perhaps I am somehow 'misinterpreting' your points:confused:

[pcwilkins]

Doesn't the Bible say "Swear not at all"? I think that answers your question :-s

Pete

[Libby1]

Doesn't the Bible say "Swear not at all"? I think that answers your question :-s

Pete
I tend to think that the word swear in the KJV at least would mean i.e. I swear I will look after so and so when you die or I swear I'll do this by the end of the week as in an oath (hopefully I'm explaining myself correctly......I know what I'm trying to say here)............perhaps in other versions the word swear is used with the meaning 'cuss'.

[Jenny89]

NEVER take the Lords name is vain.

Try to avoid other swearing, especially in church or amongst Christians.

However the occasional swear when in the presence of non-Christians (who regulary swear) might be tactically useful because if all your language is clean then they won't take you seriously and you will build to gap between yourself and them. You need to bring bridges with the unsaved by showing that Christians are'nt a bunch of weirdos but real humans too!

Even so your overall language should be cleaner than theirs and you should NEVER take the Lords name in vain. (unless you are an actor and your character in a play takes the the lords name)

i dont think this is right...you shoud neverrrrrrrrr swear...especially if you are trying to help them become a christian...you are giving them a bad example and showing them it is ok. when it is not ok. it says somewhere in the bible that good things and bad things cant come out of your mouth. you cant be praising god one minute then sayin "f" this or "f" that...but thats your opinion

[Libby1]

If we become as the world, they will know we are Christians by our:confused:

[ps139]

I'll have to disagree somewhat with that as well. I have many academic friends who are also exposed to "cuss words" in life and in the literature they read, and who do not make a habit of using said words.

The more you see, read, or hear something, the stronger it gets in your mind, you become desensitized to it, and the more likely you are to associate with/use it. Its a simple fact, its all about habits. If anyone is seriously trying to make a habit of not swearing, then they will avoid influences who swear, its very simple.

[Jesus-is-the-best]

Cursing is never ok...

[Lady_Firehawk]

I try not to, but I end up doing it anyway and feeling like... bluh. :(

[ChristianGirlNY]

It is not okay to swear but sometimes you can't help but let one slip

[Mϋzikdϋde]

It is not okay to swear but sometimes you can't help but let one slip
Kinda like....Gas?

[Krazeekkc]

But I don't think anyone has proved my point wrong.

EXAMPLE:

Calling someone stupid would be just as bad as calling them a cuss word. Because every sin is equal to God, correct? So therefore saying that someone is stupid = cuss word

Saying shoot = sh** Saying shoot is not a sin (at least I don't think so!) So when sh** has the same meaning as shoot, why does saying sh** become a sin???

[Mϋzikdϋde]

If I say "shoot" or "darn" or "Heck" and it doesn't offend anyone, I doubt it could be considered a sin. Who knows though? I'm just glad that nitpicky things like that won't keep me out of heaven. I'm sure that God will take into consideration that I truly felt that there's nothing wrong with it and that I wasn't giving in to some sort of temptation.

But then, I'm not much into the idea of legalistic salvation

[tigeroz84]

swearing is not okay, whether you say the name of the Lord in vain or use bad languages or even put up your middle finger and all other swearing gestures, they're not okay. However, it's still hard not to swear.. I'm still trying to get rid of this bad habit ;)

[tigeroz84]

Saying shoot = sh** Saying shoot is not a sin (at least I don't think so!) So when sh** has the same meaning as shoot, why does saying sh** become a sin???

I think saying shoot is also not quite rite coz words evolved over time, from harsh words they changed into not-so-harsh words but still have the same meaning for swearing,
e.g
God! >> Gosh!
Christ! >> Crikey!
Jesus! >> Geez! or Gee!

Well, I don't know for sure, this is what I read in a book about swearing :)

[DLDILL]

I guess you have to ask yourself, if Jesus was standing right there, would you say that word? If not, then I guess you shouldn't be using it at all.

[Gwynne]

I have sworn, in moments of extreme frustration, however I don't like it. I generally think there are better words to say.

[SuperSmart]

You sholdn't swear but it becomes very hard not to just like with me i am srronded by people who swear all the time in school so it rubs of on me a little so i let one slup evry now and then

[PrayerPointPerson]

No...cursing is a sin. It says in God's word that God is the only one who can curse anyone. It also says that the tongue is the most wicked part of our body and that we should control it.
Ephesians 4
29Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.

[brinny]

from a recovering cuss-a-holic, it's not glorifying to God to cuss.

[tanya88]

1 Peter 3:10 For the one who wants to love life and to see good days must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit.

[jeffnevins]

When I'm physically hurt by an unexpected accident, I may curse.

When I err in a bad way I might.

I almost never do so when around others. Word choice is an art.

[brinny]

Word choice is an art.

Can I use your quote? :D

[okiemommy26]

no it isnt right but i do cuss and im trying to stop doing it

[Spyk]

1 Peter 3:10 For the one who wants to love life and to see good days must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit.
That some it up Tanya .. ^^ .. i dont think swearing is a good thing at alll. ! and most definately not Gods Name in Vain :(

[Mrs. Matt Dally]

No. It's not right. Cussing gives a sharp, nasty flavor to the way you talk. As a Christian, and trying to set a good example for others, are those the kinda vibes you wanna give off?

[Spyk]

sounds Good Matt ..

[Libby1]

No. It's not right. Cussing gives a sharp, nasty flavor to the way you talk. As a Christian, and trying to set a good example for others, are those the kinda vibes you wanna give off?
:thumbsup: :amen: Bullseye!

[Hisbygrace]

No, it isn't okay to curse and swear, but here I go confessing again that there are times of weakness when I do.

Before Christ became my Lord and Savior it was nothing for me to say the regular cuss words( not the indept ones), but the ones that decribe certain places or things. But Christ is ever changing me and developing within me His attitude and His thoughts. "Thank you Lord for changing me".
In Matthew 15:18-20 Jesus is explaining to the Disciples that it is what comes out of mans mouth that defiles man. For what he says is the result of his thoughts which come from his heart and define the person that he/she is.

[Libby1]

The more we soak in God's Word and sit still and know that He is God the less of our 'self' we see and the more we tend to 'strive' to be holy.

[noellejoi]

No

[Aimee03]

no, you shouldn't swear, but many people do it.

[Starting again]

Well the bible says we shouldn't, so i guess we shouldn't.

[kleptobismol]

i dont think cussing is good...it makes u sound unimaginative...

[just_dance]

I do not agree with it. At my school you can not go through the hall with out hearing at lest 10 people swear. It is not called for ( Oh my gosh I sounded like I am twice my age!)I just can't stand it!

[brinny]

i dont think cussing is good...it makes u sound unimaginative...


haha that is soooo true :D

[Neal]

I like making up my own swear words... but ever tempted to take the Lord's name in vain? You've got to be kidding me. I've used bad words before, though. Never, like, shouting, though... it was always mumbled... though I know God heard.

[brinny]

I just gotta ask myself the question: Is it honoring to God? That settles it for me. :D

[Libby1]

I do not agree with it. At my school you can not go through the hall with out hearing at lest 10 people swear. It is not called for ( Oh my gosh I sounded like I am twice my age!)I just can't stand it!Hey from someone THREE times your age (:amen: ) :thumbsup: :D

[ajuran]

[QUOTE=Droobie]Have you ever felt the desire to swear? To lash out with the 'f' or 's' word?[QUOTE]

Think for me as a german swearing has another meaning then for u americans. Cause we use the "f" and esp. the "s" word a lot. It just a normal word, for something bad, or what you say if something happened you didn´t want to. So if you hang around a lot with teenegars it will be rather hard not to say it. my brothers even used it so much, that my 3 year old brother used to say the "s" word. So for me that´s not swearing. But I think you shouldn´t swear or curse someone, or even say "o god".

[fragile one]

Think for me as a german swearing has another meaning then for u americans. Cause we use the "f" and esp. the "s" word a lot. It just a normal word, for something bad, or what you say if something happened you didn´t want to.
I know exactly what you mean. Curse words are cultural. I can say p*ss in Ireland and no one would bat an eye. I say it here in the USA, and someone inevitably gets their knickers in a twist ;)

I curse...but usually, a curse word in one place isn't a curse word in another, so do I really curse or not? :D

[~Wisdom Seeker~]

My Mother used to tell me as a child "Intelligent people will find better words to express themselves" subtext: Only stupid lazy people use profanity, because they don't have the brain power to be more creative.

My Mother was good at using negative illustrations to encourage positive behavior. :D

[meebs]

well i think you can say P*** and S***, but i think others are merely offensive (to anyone, show no respect. etc) . The ones where you take the lord name in vain though, are bad.

Im having a struggle at the mo to stop swearing, its hard though, when others do it every second word here! :doh:i ask God for help.

(please pray for me! :prayer: )

[HotRhymez]

Yeah..swearing is fun! It's better to swear than to do something worse, like punch somebody and break their nose.

[JohnnyV]

I think swearing is not a sin in itself(afterall they have only the meanings we attach to them), but it does offend people so we shouldnt do it. And definitely not take the lords name in vain.

[~Wisdom Seeker~]

My Mother used to say that it wasn't the words that were "bad", but their being used to offend others that was "bad".

The same could be said for alchohol, drugs, food or money. The lust for them is where we humans get into trouble. By themselves they're inanimate.

Words have a lot of power. We can use them to lift each other up and make living easier, or we can use them to tear others down and make living a gray and joyless existance. It's our choice. And we choose not to be possitive. Ever wonder why human beings are so enraptured with the negative aspects of everything? I think it's part of our genetic makeup. It's very neandrathal.

Is it common and accepted to use profanity? Sure. More and more as time goes on, what used to be shocking becomes commonplace, accepted. Is it right, good, honorable, edifying, G-d honoring to do so? That's the real question here.

Not many people who use profanity would say that they thought it was something to be proud of. Most know it's offensive, but they just don't care. It's a rebellious and anitsocial indication of where society is today. We're so desensitized to anything negative, that it actually works in reverse. We're now offended by the possitive. Show a person who never uses profanity and we ridicule them. It's topsy tirvy world. Right is wrong, wrong is right. The greater the population increases, the more all negative aspects of life increase. And the more oversaturated we become, the more desensitized to it we become.

Earth is a hostile environment. We have so many advantages today that we didn't have 100 years ago. And yet, as a society we are becoming calous to those around us. And we justify it to ourselves. Instead of taking a personal stand against it.

[Starting again]

Yeah, Wisdom Seeker, That makes alot of sense to me. thanks.

[shinpai_ga_nai]

Someone else has probably already said this, but Ephesians 4:29 tells us to only let words that build others up to come from our mouths.

[jcright]

Nope, I don't think you should be swearing.

[faith renewal]

I'm not sure on this one. First, though, let me clarify that I don't ever think that swear words should be used as adjectives. There are thousands of other words that would more accurately convey your meaning. My uncertainty is based on the use of cursing in an emotional outburst. Say you stub your toe and yell "son of a gun!" We all know what is really meant there. You are cursing inwardly, so why not be true to yourself and say the real thing? On the other head, swearing can be very offensive and we sould be sensitive to the feelings of those around us. That is why I'm not sure.

[chris714ndud3]

i think all kinds of swearing should be avoided

[Ceccia]

I don't like to swear because I think it makes me sound crude and low-class...as well as unintelligent.

That's not to say that I never swear. But I'm working on it.

[niki4jesus]

GOd is so powerful that he was able to speak things into existance... the sun, the moon, the waters... Since we are aiming to be more like him we should be aiming to use our language as positively and in the way that edifies our Lord, our selves and each other. Remember...

Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be exceptable in thy sight Oh Lord my strength and my redeemer, in Jesus name Amen.

[wackyjo]

I hate swearing,,,my theory is people swear when they havent got the vocab to express what theyre trying to say!!! I am trying to give it up -- but faling badly!

[kissybug27]

I don't know if using cuss words is a sin but it is very disturbing to hear someone cussing. What ever happened to the days when man were decent enough to not cuss around women and women were lady like enough to not use vulgar language? You know there are laws against it. LOL Although they are not forced anymore LOL

[xxRachaelxx]

Swearing is totally DUMB!
When I hear people swearing I think ''who do you think you are???'' they think they're soooo cool or something. They sound stupid and it's just filth.
I admit - sometimes, if I get really wound up or something, a swear word comes out - and i hateeeeee it....butttt I haven't swore in ages..which is great.

[dubstep]

Why would a word be offensive? You might as well say that any sound could be offensive. A person who is offended by swearing is a weak person. Because they let something as trivial as a word take over their senses.

[lexx-W-bush]

dude, you know you can't swear.

[dubstep]

ok

[lexx-W-bush]

that's like totally not cool.

[Caprice]

I won't claim to never use swear words... but I believe whole-heartedly that it is not "OK" to do so.

[xsynerinc]

swearing is "perversity of speech". it keeps the door open to the devil in your life.

nothing but edifying, kind words should come from the mouth of a christian. "all else grieves the Holy Spirit whereby we were sealed unto the day of redeemption"

"brethren how can cursing and blessing come from the same mouth, this ought not be so."

swearing is a form of conforming to the world. and christians should be holy even as the Father is holy.

"anyone who doesn't bridle their tongue, they're religion is in vain."

it takes a mature christian strong in God's word to control the flesh/tongue.

there's many more scriptures.

swearing hurts the swearer more than the hearer. although i certainly don't want my ears to be somebodies auditory trashcan.

[gizmo03]

I don't do it on a daily basis in every conversation, at times I say certain words in talking without even thinking about it. But at times I do it on purpose when I am really mad and need to vent.

[skilltroks]

I think swearing is not ok. As a Christian, we need to make it a habit on not swearing.

[labellady]

I don't think you should swear. I let a couple slide in, but I shouldn't.

[pro_odeh]

swearing is not ok!! The Bible tells us that we should not act as the world.

[mrguitarporsche5]

um no

[Jenny89]

i believe that swearing is bad because a youth leader explained to me why. it makes perfect sense. You cant be a christian one minute and then start cussing a second after. Because its like you are speaking to completley opposite things cussing and then praying to God they cant come out of the same mouth. And you should never do anything that you wouldnt want to do in fron of Jesus. I mean would u really want to start saying cusswords in front of Him? and like he see's so its like we are because he sees everything we do.... i dont know its kinda hard to put in words...i do occasionally slip not out loud...but in my head..thats just is bad i think...it makes me feel bad...but its hard not to my parents cuss and at school everybody cusses even some of the teachers... but its stilll no exuse:o

[scout040506]

i reallydon't like it when bands swear because then they have tosay it every time they sing the songeven if theyare not in a swearing mood who agrees withme sorry about the stuck togetherwords my spacebar is beingmean

[SmEaGoL!]

One shouldn't but it shouldn't be thought of as that big a deal. It depends on the situation.

[scout040506]

hmmmm that makes sense sorta

[Machiavelli]

I believe that it's a matter of context and company. I'm a lawyer in training who is taught how to use the art of language. Personally, I have caused far more damage by using well-constructed language in a vindictive manner than by swearing.

If one is around people who are sensitive to certain types of language, I think that it is appropriate to tone one's language down somewhat. However, if someone was in circles where swearing was perfectly acceptable, then I wouldn't see any problem whatsoever with using language to adapt to the circumstances. I don't think that the Bible explicitly condemns using certain language, although to take the Lord's name in vain is explicitly forbidden.

I should point out lastly that language tends to become habitual. This is not simply the case with "objectionable language", but with all types of language. I think that I've probably lost count of the times that I've used words such as "consequently", "accordingly" and "inherently" both in essays and in spoken conversations! In this sense, I feel that one has a freedom to swear in certain circumstances, but the fact that such language will become habitual and eventually drift into conversations where that type of language is not appreciated is reason enough to watch what you say.

Regards,
Machiavelli

[Saruman]

Swearing AND cussing are both wrong, wrong, wrong. I don't understand why some of you don't get that. "...and a perverse tongue shall be cut out." Plain and simple. This is a topic that I believe in ZERO tolerance.

[absolutely_lost_86]

ahhhhh no

[Saint2be27]

Nope

[jans]

How can we praise God and then use foul language.

[jason_the_ecumenicalist]

Is swearing okay?? That is rather difficult....

Here is a shocker: The bIble has cuss words in it!!! Ofcorse they are translated out in our English translations. Paul in various books uses some pretty foul langauge, or atleast words that carried a deragatory greek definition. Many times Paul's rebukes are fairly deragatory.

Philippians 3:2
Watch out for those dogs, those men who do evil, those mutilators of the flesh.

word here: dogs, that is pretty deragtory. Today, it would be the equivalent of calling someone a female dog (the b-wrod!) today. Ofcorse that would never be translated into scripture!!!


Phillipians 3:8
What is more, I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ.

some have suggested a better term may actually be Bull S*** for a greek equvilent.

But these are not your fundamentlist schollars, but greek schollars who are saying how these words were used in general in all literature, biblical, pagan, ect. Ofcorse funamentalist Christian schollars deny this, because cussing is a sin and the Holy Spirit certainly would not have directed Paul to cuss. On this one i am siding with the general greek schollars who know the langauge much better. I even have heard a couple Christians who are greek experts agree.

Phillipians 3:8

[Saruman]

Of course the Bible has cusswords in it, like d*mn, and hell. The Bible talks about many things which are sinful. Are we to justify murder since it's in the Bible??? I think not.

[Joens86]

Have you ever felt the desire to swear? To lash out with the 'f' or 's' word? Is only taking the Lord's name in vain swearing in you eyes? Is swearing altogether out? What are your thoughts?
Dear Brother in Christ

I clearly remember that once a Great woman told me this "If u are a christians than forget about swearing or cursing as a christians mouth is use to worship God, do u think u wanna use the mouth that u use to worship to curse someone? Than whats the point in you been a christian"

I use to curse and swear alot as Iam a soldier, but as time goes by and i get closer with the Lord you will change.

Joe
The Sinner

[jehovahway]

Have you ever felt the desire to swear? To lash out with the 'f' or 's' word? Is only taking the Lord's name in vain swearing in you eyes? Is swearing altogether out? What are your thoughts?From the people that i have been around that do that .the holy spirit
has shown me satans angels on them.

I have gift 7 of the nine gifts of the spirit.

The people that were doing this were not christians.

[ascribe2thelord]

Is swearing okay?? That is rather difficult....

Here is a shocker: The bIble has cuss words in it!!! Ofcorse they are translated out in our English translations. Paul in various books uses some pretty foul langauge, or atleast words that carried a deragatory greek definition. Many times Paul's rebukes are fairly deragatory.

Philippians 3:2
Watch out for those dogs, those men who do evil, those mutilators of the flesh.

word here: dogs, that is pretty deragtory. Today, it would be the equivalent of calling someone a female dog (the b-wrod!) today. Ofcorse that would never be translated into scripture!!!


Phillipians 3:8
What is more, I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ.

some have suggested a better term may actually be Bull S*** for a greek equvilent.

But these are not your fundamentlist schollars, but greek schollars who are saying how these words were used in general in all literature, biblical, pagan, ect. Ofcorse funamentalist Christian schollars deny this, because cussing is a sin and the Holy Spirit certainly would not have directed Paul to cuss. On this one i am siding with the general greek schollars who know the langauge much better. I even have heard a couple Christians who are greek experts agree.

Phillipians 3:8
What you've said is very true. The New Testament was generally written in the street language of the people in those times.

[ascribe2thelord]

Have you ever felt the desire to swear? To lash out with the 'f' or 's' word? Is only taking the Lord's name in vain swearing in you eyes? Is swearing altogether out? What are your thoughts?Actually, yes, all the time! But not taking the Lord's Name in vain. That ranks right up there with blaspheming the Spirit, or at least somewhere close, in my opinion. It's declaring yourself an enemy of God to abuse His holy Name.

[kleptobismol]

no it makes u sound unintelligent

[persianboy]

All unrighteousness is sin...

[Machiavelli]

I should first point out something - I almost never swear. Perhaps it's because I associate in circles where people rarely swear, perhaps it's simply force of habit. So my defence of swearing in no way is a defence of my own behaviour, but simply an acknowledgement of my freedom to use "colourful language" in an appropriate context should I deem it expedient.


Of course the Bible has cusswords in it, like d*mn, and hell. The Bible talks about many things which are sinful. Are we to justify murder since it's in the Bible??? I think not.
Although the Bible contains murder, it explicitly condemns murder. Not only does the Bible refrain from explicitly condemning swearing, it seems to permissively allow swearing in that the God-inspired language used in the Bible contains swearing.


I clearly remember that once a Great woman told me this "If u are a christians than forget about swearing or cursing as a christians mouth is use to worship God, do u think u wanna use the mouth that u use to worship to curse someone? Than whats the point in you been a christian"
This gets to the crux of the matter. What is the intent of the language? Is such language is used to denigrate another person, then of course it is unacceptable. But this has nothing to do with the sounds that are coming out of your mouth. Rather, it has to do with the intended effect of the the words that you use. The same may be said for words that are not considered swearing. If you use language that is considered perfectly acceptable to denigrate someone, this too is unacceptable.


From the people that i have been around that do that .the holy spirit
has shown me satans angels on them.

I have gift 7 of the nine gifts of the spirit.

The people that were doing this were not christians.
If the Holy Spirit has really shown you this, why has He not also given you a reason for this belief?

no it makes u sound unintelligentFunnily enough, there are plenty of ways to sound unintelligent without using "objectionable language". And why should this be an issue anyway? Since when did intelligence have anything to do with what is right and wrong?

To create an intelligent/unintelligent distinction really is elitist, and shows a real lack of empathy for those that may speak in a different way to the way that we speak simply because of the differences of our respective upbringings.

All unrighteousness is sin...That's a circular argument. Of course unrighteousness is sin. The real issue is really whether swearing can be regarded as "unrighteousness".

Regards,
Machiavelli

[1denomination]

In the book of Matthew, The third time Peter denied Jesus, a woman said suley you are one of his for your speach betray's you so he then began to curse and swear, I belive in an effort to prove he wasnt a follower of Christ. I dont know about you but if it can be used as a way to prove Im not a Christian Im not going to do it. Maybe some people dont want to be recognized as christians sothey can swear all they want, I guess you have to ask yourself, Do I want to be recognized as a Christian?

God bless:prayer:

[Machiavelli]

In the book of Matthew, The third time Peter denied Jesus, a woman said suley you are one of his for your speach betray's you so he then began to curse and swear, I belive in an effort to prove he wasnt a follower of Christ.
In Mark, we read that the woman accuses Peter of being a follower of Jesus because he was a Galilean. The way that Peter talked, therefore, is much more likely a reference to his accent, rather than the type of language that he used.

I dont know about you but if it can be used as a way to prove Im not a Christian Im not going to do it.
I don't think that such language establishes one's status as a non-Christian anymore than an absence of such language establishes one's status as a Christian. I think that it's perfectly possible to have godly people who use colourful language and ungodly people who use more "socially appropriate" language.

Maybe some people dont want to be recognized as christians sothey can swear all they want, I guess you have to ask yourself, Do I want to be recognized as a Christian?
Perhaps it might be better to be recognised as a Christian for the love you have for other people, manifested through your good works for them rather than any sound that may come out of your mouth?

[gmedwards]

if we were perfect then maybe we wouldnt swear...but we do make mistakes.

[jason_the_ecumenicalist]

Of course the Bible has cusswords in it, like d*mn, and hell. The Bible talks about many things which are sinful. Are we to justify murder since it's in the Bible??? I think not.
I was not making an arguement for or against swearing, just stating a fact, where cussing was directly used. Damn to hell is a different grammatic function then Paul calling some one a very dergatory name. Words can't be defined by a literal reading, but by how they are used. damning someone to hell is a physical action carried out by God, and I do not interpret it as cussing in that sense, but in Phillipians, I do interpret his langauge as cussing.


Cussing is not on my top lists of concerns either. I think cussing may have its place in certain contexts, i.e. getting a particular point accross as Paul does.

[Yamialpha]

I wouldn't consider it an acceptable thing because you can offend other people simply because you want to put on a false complex.

[guitar rocker]

no swearing.
the times i feel like i want to swear most are times where people i'm around or know are swearing. that makes it really hard, ya know?
DEFINATELY NOT GOD'S NAME IN VAIN. EVER.

[ladybug01]

We should NEVER swear or take God's Name in vain. However, we are permitted to cuss.
Swearing and cussing, I believe, are different things. Swearing consists of statements such as "by Mary, I think the Redsocks are going to win." Christ tells us not to swear by anything in heaven or on the earth. Cussing, though, is like "d*mn, these are good Pop-Tarts" or "cr*p, I'm late for class" and is acceptable.

[GodFlute2]

Matthew 5:34 says,
"But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne;" That's enough proof for me. It's even written in red print(words Jesus spoke).

[indeep]

I try to keep my swearing to a minimum, but sometimes I just feel like lashing out verbally, but it usually happens when no one else is around. Normally I'm cussing at my own incompetence, or the unworking nature of something I am trying to use. :P

[MQTA]

But what constitutes swearing?

[Joens86]

I try to keep my swearing to a minimum, but sometimes I just feel like lashing out verbally, but it usually happens when no one else is around. Normally I'm cussing at my own incompetence, or the unworking nature of something I am trying to use. :P
Not sure if u have watch Joan the arc there is this guy who the maiden ask to stop swearing but he still cant stop, brother dun curse or swear unnecessary or shld i say is best not to swear i am also a heavy curser and swearer currently i am trying very hard to change also as the joan of arc has change me alot.

if u haven watch maybe u can try go watch the movie is really nice.

Joe
The Sinner

[shaz_fun]

it's hard.... i don't think we should ever swear and deffinatly never use God's name in that sense, but i understand how hard it can be... especially when u hear it around u at work or whatever.... It's a case of when u feel like swearing turn it to a prayer.... because then u find u don't want to use words that are not 100% acceptable....
God bless
Shaz
x x x x x x

[tiana]

I think it's not what God would want for us. Do we struggle with our tongues and what we say? I think most folks do even if it's not cussing but just saying hurtful things.

[Nobility]

i agre that it shouldn't beused... Why isabetter view... The verse do what is right in the eyes of others come into play as a big part for me.

[Bin Qasim]

Peace

Order has come already not to take the name of God in vain........then why do it?

[LilRitt04]

In school kids hear it all the time...But that doesnt make it right...

I think as a Christian you need to maintian a Christian attitude, not only in your attitude, but your personality, and you voice. If you come off to someone as a Christian and then you cuss its hipocritical. Before I became a complete and total Christian I would cuss, but then it got to the point were I would slip but now I dont at all..

So what I am trying to say is that I am against it...I think it is completely wrong as a Christian to display that kind of attitude!

[Fonzy]

i thinks its ok.

[ALASKACHICK10]

I don't think you should swear or cuss at all

[Samsara]

I can use very bad language and when I do I feel like I have just offered a betrayal up of my true nature. I don't like the use of the word "should" in the poll but for me, I do not appreciate how I feel when I am in the middle of 'inventing' new words.

Wanting to be a peaceful loving person, to use foul language deprives me of that nature. It also deprives those around me of that nature of my inherent self. I'm sure I'll still continue to use words that do not feel really good, but my awareness that I dislike doing it tells me that my goal is to remove them from my vocabulary.

I don't stop with 'words' but also include sarcasm or making jokes at another's expense, being crude, crass, negative in language or obnoxious. It's not always all about 'curse words' ...it's about 'cursing'...

"this day is terrible!" and i have just cursed my day to be terrible. "you're a ________ " [insert a name-calling name] and I've just cursed someone with a not good label. Snide remarks would be cursing the positivity of a situation...Throwing negative perceptions around.

I strive to watch my language in many senses of the way I speak not just certain words.

Samsara

[Tangi]

I cant find it O.k at all in whatever situation. It is not O.K

[NickyBlade]

Truthfully, I slip once in a while. But, for the most part, I try to avoid foul language. I think people respect you more if you articulate well without the use of cussing to get your point across.

[sinner/SAVED]

I think we should resist anything that others find offensive

[dudeoffaith1]

What's wrong with bad words as long as you are not using God's name in vain?

[twenty1blakjack]

I don't see what's offensive about things like f*** and s***. They're just words, and somehow it was decided that they're bad and shouldn't be said. I think that concept is ridiculous.
My grandma says things like Christopher Mauly! when she is upset or surprised. It's pretty funny. Some random guy's name.
Same for me when I say stuff like "jesus christ calm down". I feel weird saying that, so I'm tryin' to say stuff like "holy s*** calm down."

[heavensworthit]

We had this discussion at school the other day and they asked, "well, we all have different definitions..who's right?" you have to think of others...what you consider not to be a swear may be highly offensive to someone else....and don't try to "christianize" swears either....

[pro_odeh]

Matthew 5
22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother[1 (http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?passage=MATT+5:22&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=on&showxref=on#footnote_77440980_1)] will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,[2 (http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?passage=MATT+5:22&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=on&showxref=on#footnote_77440980_2)] ' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
It's not just the word you use, but also the heart behind it. We should not use Gods name in vane, neither should we call upon the devil, or use words not suitable for any situation..

God bless!!

[MQTA]

oh how great society would be if people acted as they say they should.

[pro_odeh]

oh how great society would be if people acted as they say they should.
No kidding.. We know that's impossible, but it doesnt hurt to try ur best! ;)

[delvaughn]

Our mouths are to be a mouthpiece for the Lord.

[Carl Rapel]

i am sure someone has already posted scripture so i wont. but what if someone you know thought you were a christian and saw you curse all the time. They usually would have one of two thoughts... 1 is wow they are a hipocrit or 2 they can be ignorant and think if they do that that should make me a christian (when they truly are not)

[challe]

:wave: Hi ,, I vote NO ,, Cause I dont think its Okey to Swear !


Challe / :clap:

[draconus71]

I believe we shouldnt swear or cuss at all

[Centrifuge04]

Not going to vote on this one but, it is wrong to curse but sometimes you just can't help it/

[Sipes13]

I try my best to swear as little as possible.. My family has a serious potty mouth and its kinda contagious.. So i just catch myself when i do.. But I dont usually have a problem with this..There is worst things than swearing, like wearing bright colored clothing or listening to Elton John....

[peach16_4u]

so if your supossed to give God your best why wouldn't that include your words??? read eph. 5

[jesusismyking]

I swear a lot. That's not a good thing...I know. Especially since I'm only 15 but I have cut back a lot. The Lord is helping me with it. It is never okay to say the Lord's name in vain,even when I wasn't a christian I knew it was wrong.

[Caprice]

There is worst things than swearing, like wearing bright colored clothing or listening to Elton John.... Such as use of improper grammar? hee hee hee

But seriously, I'm not sure I see anything wrong with jaming out to Elton John occasionally (or with bright coloured clothes for that matter). Might as well outlaw Phil Collins' music too then.

I swear a lot. That's not a good thing...I know. Especially since I'm only 15 but I have cut back a lot. The Lord is helping me with it. It is never okay to say the Lord's name in vain,even when I wasn't a christian I knew it was wrong. Isn't it great how the lord helps us out with these things. I know recently God has put it on my heart to quit swearing especially because of the child my wife will be having in a few weeks. I need to set a good example for that little life.

[Gozo]

first of all, those are not the same thing. You can swear by something in hope or assurance of a certain outcome, and you can curse something to a particular outcome.

Swearing, no, I don't do simply b/c there is nothing worth swearing about. You should let your "yes" mean yes and your "no" mean no. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

Cursing, yes, I do on occasion. There are some things that should be and are cursed. And speaking such thing is only appropriate at times.

Cussing is using words that some consider inappropriate. I think the poll is somewhat trying to refer to this as well. Yes, I cuss, but only in times when I know it's nonoffensive of present company or for emphasis. I view these words as a part of our culture and a part of our language. Just because some people do not accept them, does not mean that they are not okay to use in front of other people. The feeling attached to words are always changing and evolving. Some words found offensive today were once simple scientific terms or everyday common speech used by some of the most 'upright' people.

There is no point in getting all bent out of shape over something as insignificant as this. Be considerate of those around you, and don't be afraid to be yourself and express yourself in an appropriate manner.

[CynthiaSpeaks]

"When nonbelievers hear you swear, they are not hearing Christ, they are hearing compromise." I got that statement from this great article in Cornerstone Magazine: http://www.cornerstonemag.com/pages/show_page.asp?312 It addresses this very issue.

Ephesians 3:7-8 says, "But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander and filthy language from your lips."

[Evie]

Have you ever felt the desire to swear? To lash out with the 'f' or 's' word? Is only taking the Lord's name in vain swearing in you eyes? Is swearing altogether out? What are your thoughts?
we should not swear atall,no I never get the urge.

[InspiredHome]

It's vile. I especially hate it when people cuss every other word. It shows me lack of intelligence!

[Waterhouse]

You shouldn't take the Lord's name in vain. Also, you shouldn't need to use any of the more colourful idioms that are expressed today. I'm sure we can think of better things to say.

[Followers4christ]

No you shouldnt swear/cuss at all.God Bless you all


1 Peter 2:1"Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind.

Ephesians 4:29"Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.

Titus 3:2"to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and to show true humility toward all men.

[rocketboy]

no you shouldnt

[DavetheProphet]

I think personally that those who say it's unneccessary but not wrong if someone swears are trying to make themselves feel better because they are in the habit of it. It's definately not a good thing at all, even if it's just to let some anger out and isn't directed at anyone.

[vrunca]

Once in a while I have a slip, but I don't like swearing. Yuck!! It's very unbecoming.

[JulianaTheory]

The old me cussed all the time. I am a new creation and because of that I strive to only say things that are pleasing to my Lord. DO I ever mess up? Yes. Sometimes my comments and thoughts aren't in alignment with God. Do I feel miserable when I mess up? Absolutely. God is forgiving. When I go to Him with a broken heart, He forgives and I get a fresh start. It seems for me not cussing is easier than some of the thoughts I have. But God and I are workin' on that. =)

[gal4God]

No, you should not swear at all esp. not taking the Lords name in vain.

[MrsKlause]

I don't want to see, smell, touch or taste garbage, why would I want to hear it? God doesn't want us using His mouth (any part of our bodies are His if we give everything to him) to use words that aren't pleasing to Him.

[Face Value]

anythig but. its a stress reliever and its just words.

[Juliet13]

If you're askin me....it's fine....becuz I do it a lot. I know it prolly aint good.....but I jes can't help it. I voted 'yes, its fine' or whatever dat sayz.

[DavetheProphet]

If you're askin me....it's fine....becuz I do it a lot. I know it prolly aint good.....but I jes can't help it. I voted 'yes, its fine' or whatever dat sayz.

You probably already considered this, but doing something often does not make it right. I have other habits besides cursing that I know are sinful, yet I do not consider them right merely to justify doing them. Just remember that the question was, do you think it is ok, not how much do you do it. If you really believe it is ok, then that is a different matter altogether and I will gladly discuss it with you if that is the case.

[matey339]

Of course you shouldn't swear. I can understand the occasional slip of the tounge when you're outraged, but only a mild word such as d***..people can control their language, right? I hear the f-bomb and every other imaginable curse word at school every single weekday! I mean when attending an average public school in the US, it's unavoidable. But that doesn't mean that we Christians can't "show off" our own self control of our language--we can set a good example for others around us that need someone to look up to.. And i don't know exactly what you guys think about it, i'd like to hear your opinions, but my world history prof. said that "d***" isn't a curse word, only when asking God to d*** something.(taking the Lord's name in vain with the word "d***") What do you guys think?

[KrazyPhish]

It doesn't exactly make you sound very intelligent...

[SamACoop]

I think, aside from it just being foul, it's unattractive and shows lack of intelligence.

[Juliet13]

You probably already considered this, but doing something often does not make it right. I have other habits besides cursing that I know are sinful, yet I do not consider them right merely to justify doing them. Just remember that the question was, do you think it is ok, not how much do you do it. If you really believe it is ok, then that is a different matter altogether and I will gladly discuss it with you if that is the case.
huh???

[freyajem]

Have you ever felt the desire to swear? To lash out with the 'f' or 's' word? Is only taking the Lord's name in vain swearing in you eyes? Is swearing altogether out? What are your thoughts?

I said "I am not sure" because I think it is not okay to swear or cuss but I know most or all of us do it sometimes. I rarely take God's name in vain which I consider swearing and I try not to cuss with the "f" word and others but if something needs to come out, it is the cussing rather than the swearing using God's name in vain.

[Figure8]

I wish I could say I was a perfect girl and never cuss, but I can't. I try my hardest not to do it but sometimes it slips and I do. I am not one of those people that in conversation use it just to use it.

[dudeoffaith1]

I wish I could say I was a perfect girl and never cuss, but I can't. I try my hardest not to do it but sometimes it slips and I do. I am not one of those people that in conversation use it just to use it.t hey, were not all perfect.

[IamGideon]

Totally out.. Its not enough to be christian we need to try be as much like Jesus as possible if you can stop even saying flip or idiot, stuff like that then stop..Jesus didn't say stuff like that

[Daisysqueaks]

6The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.
9With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. 10Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be.
James Chapter 3
Now I 'slip-up' and curse from time to time, but that doesn't make it okay for me or anyone else.

[DavetheProphet]

6The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.
9With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. 10Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be.
James Chapter 3
Now I 'slip-up' and curse from time to time, but that doesn't make it okay for me or anyone else.
Well said :thumbsup:

[Juliet13]

I still think its fine.

[If Not For Grace]

To Swear involves an oath, promise etc.

God's name is not to be used in vain-without meaning...

What is the difference between an adjective and distasteful adjective?

[MaddiesDad]

Swearing is not flattering in any aspect.

[HisJavajunkie]

Yes, I believe that swearing is definitely wrong. But I will admit, there have been times when a few words have left my tongue that shouldn't have.

For instance, when my friend "dropped" the engine on my thumb, I was sharing quite a few words that I shouldn't have.

[firestar]

My definition of swearing/cussing is not necessarily using the "f" word or something similar because that only depends on the company you're with, the country you're in etc... To me, we should avoid speaking insultingly and in anger when our words can wound. I don't think the "f" word is any more destructive than someone saying "you jerk!" and really meaning it to cause insult.

[Brokeback_Catholic]

Have you ever felt the desire to swear? To lash out with the 'f' or 's' word? Is only taking the Lord's name in vain swearing in you eyes? Is swearing altogether out? What are your thoughts?
It's only words. What's the big deal?

[Krystina661]

It's only words. What's the big deal?


The big deal is words can hurt people..

[Brokeback_Catholic]

The big deal is words can hurt people..

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.:hug::kiss::wave:

[Krystina661]

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.:hug::kiss::wave:



I highly doubt that but whatever you say.. :angel:

[Brokeback_Catholic]

I highly doubt that but whatever you say.. :angel:

Believe me sugar, it's true.:hug::hug::kiss::kiss:

[MsFrog]

I try NOT to use swear words, but there's a certain time of the month...
:blush:

[just_dance]

i peasonally don't like it but i do have to admit that i do swair when i lose my temper which i'm lucky isn't that much i have to learn to hold my tougn when i get like that

[KellyLeigh]

This is an easy one: NO!

[onlooker]

I feel as a Christian we should lead by example. What kind of an example does swearing show others?

[lgintrnj]

It hurts me to hear our Lords name taken in vain.

Though Im sure the other words do slip out on occasion, Im 60 and had a problem a few times my self. Certain words i find extremely offensive and will walk away from anyone using them.

have a great day in our Lord.

[Sun2]

Have you ever felt the desire to swear? To lash out with the 'f' or 's' word? Is only taking the Lord's name in vain swearing in you eyes? Is swearing altogether out? What are your thoughts?

Altogether out:liturgy:

[Ethos711]

I'm not quiet sure.

[UncleRicky]

Greetings all,

I did not grow up in a Christian home. The folks I ran with used rough language, and so did I. Having been a Christian for many years now, I reject such language, especially taking the Lords Name in vain. However, once in a while, old habits take over, and I find that a good cuss can be strangely satisfying.

Why is that?

Cheers,
Rick

http://unclerickysperigrinations.blogspot.com/

[KebraMoonstone]

but don't take the Lord's name in vain

[YourNameIsHoly]

I don't think you should swear at all.

[allenwiththetalon]

its not good at allto cuss. it says in ephesians 4:29 to not let any unwholesome talk come out of you